DragonBallITP OOC VI: The Asylum for Omnipotent Nutcases

[Rater202]

I don't really have anything till the next arc after my latest post.

[igordragonian]

the nokia hammer supposed to be indestructable..
at least this was the joke.
It's not that important though.

[Rater202]

I don't know if I mentioned this, but a bit ago I learned that the Android eleite and Android hero from Dragon Ball heroes are canonically Androids 25 and 26 respectively.

Which tells me that there's a 22, 23, and 24.

[igordragonian]

How... cannon is dragon heroes?

[Lord Raziere]

@ igor:
not canon in the least. its purely to cross a bunch of things over and see cool things happen like SS Blue Goku facing Super Saiyan 4 Goku from GT.

@ Rater:
I mean, those are popular android number for their fan OCs. I'm probably just the latest girl to use them. if they cared at all, they probably skipped over them to not invalidate anyone making them. or they're just planning to use those numbers for a more important thing down the line, they're closer and thus more likely to be made.

[igordragonian]

I tried to watch some episodes.
I guess they do use the essence of dragon ball-
flashy battles and more transformations..
it just felt... somewhat empty to me?

Anyway, multiverse can solve any incossitency.

Vodkana is a bit in a wierd spot with some lore that was revealed about how Hakaishins function.
But we pulles through. I think.

[Lord Raziere]

Yeah, Heroes is what you get when someone thinks dragonball is nothing but a bunch of contextless flashy fights for the sake of being cool. Of course its going to be empty, they're neglecting the structure surrounding the fights that make them important. The build up towards the fight and what the reasons for fighting someone is just as important as the fight itself, they give it meaning. If there is no real reason to fight, then its just action figures being smashed against one another. Dragonball may be simpler in how it provides its reasons than others but they still provide reasons. Its connecting tissue.

yeah, gods of destruction are kind of weird in general and a bit of a problem for any "screw destiny" kind of character like Jade. they're this situation where a person is treated like a force of nature that you can't do anything about when the instinct of people like her are to treat them like any other person and thus beat them up when they do a bad. it makes me wonder how I'll handle it if we ever get to the point where Jade would be powerful enough to fight them.

[igordragonian]

Well. Overcoming and humbling the gods is in theme.
Even in DBZ and even in the original:

Kami is an awe of Goku despite looking mysteriouse and powerful at first.

In DBZ King Kai and then Kaioshin follow the same trend
Goku even threaten Kaioshin to move aside and he does.

Beerus, I think/hope unlike them will be more of a new Vegeta then a god who simply get humbled by Goku.


Well. It depend where you want to take Jade.
Vodkana got her humility lesson at her introduction.

Goku got humbled by Beerus was.. epic,if you remember the hype when the movie was out.



The problem with Vodkana that I have assumed Hakaishins are a specie, just like Shinjins, demons and angels are.

But apparently it's more like Kami- it's a job, that taken by ex-mortals.
It has it's own coolness factor, I guess.
But for Vodkana I teneded her to be a forbiddeb demigoddess.
I think I invented her quite soon after the movie.

[Rater202]

I don't have anything I just don't want to let this fall off the page.

[Lord Raziere]

Okay then, no more stalling or dragging our feet, after this fight we're timeskipping ten years as I wanted to do.....what how long ago now? these two arcs didn't feel right to me and I don't think either are were my best and I honestly just want them done so we can move on.

[Rater202]

Okay then, no more stalling or dragging our feet, after this fight we're timeskipping ten years as I wanted to do.....what how long ago now? these two arcs didn't feel right to me and I don't think either are were my best and I honestly just want them done so we can move on.

Fair enough.

I don't know if adult Rye should be Adult Android 10's sarcastic tomboy girlfriend or if she's just the sarcastic best friend.

I just know that she's been trained as a fighter and a ki user solely becuase it's the only way she'd survive the next ten years of cloth proximity to a godlike lunatic.

[igordragonian]

I dont mind how many years.
If we are doing the Trombone Saga, Vodkana will be off from at least Act I
I'll probabky focus even more on ber attendants, I am toying with the idea, she would clone a child with combined genes of her own and Hailing

[Lord Raziere]

I know that in ten years time that Earth will basically be at a point where there will be no need for political mucking about and will basically utopian or near-utopian. just to sweep that away as a concern since I don't think that aspect ever really worked well.

Earth is going to be more open and connected to the galactic community, Jade is going to have a school and accepting students from across the galaxy, there is probably also going to be new heroes imitating Jade who rose in that time on other planets who can be worfed without concern because doing worfing is the way that DBZ shows off how powerful the villain is, without having the PCs do it, Jade and Beryl are going to be able to fuse consistently, Masala will have worked out a system for temporarily voluntary absorptions to increase her power like transformation or just have a pure form, Jade and Masala are probably going to have both mastered Referential Cosplay Style in different ways, there is probably going to be some bio-androids scattered about society some fighters, some just doing normal jobs (with civil rights addendums covering how fast they reach adulthood for example), Grey Spider will have a heart now, things like that. just in general, society-wise, things will be just as bright or even better than canonical Earth, we're talking wide use of infinite energy engines and senzu beans feeding everyone who can't get fancier food kind of stuff.

[igordragonian]

I imagine in that case, King Fenrir can retire and one of his children can inherate him, mostly as a symbol of unity.



So you both up for Trombone saga?

[Lord Raziere]

Yes, I've decided to make entirely new sheets for the Referas and Pinappla since I don't even remember them well even now, and I'm debating whether to switch the PL measurements from saga to just stating something like "Solar system" or "planet level" to have a more concrete measurement of how much one can destroy without going into hard numbers. what do you guys think, should we keep saying stuff like "majin buu/cell saga" level or does labels like planets/solar system/galaxy level mean more?

[Rater202]

I'm fine with abstracting power levels down to what you can bust.

[igordragonian]

I am not sure if they are as useful:
It's not very clear who at what point can destroy what.

But Arcs give us istimation of what "playground" are we talking about.

I guess most humans like Yamcha are stuck at "Sayian Saga" level.
I am not sure how helpful "bust level"- original Dragon Ball Roshi blasted the moon.

---

What would your "main characters" be?
I am thinking about Vodkana's child and I want him/her to play off in fun/intresting way with the others.

---
I take it as yes for Trombone?
-


working on replies

[Lord Raziere]

.....oh right Roshi, that is a good point. the power to destroy a moon does not technically translate to the power to defeat Raditz. nevermind then. saga-based PLs remain.

yeah, I'm probably going to introduce a galactic force of peacekeepers to be our Yamcha. basically a bunch of saiyan-saga level fighters that can take of most threats in the galaxy, but exist only to show off what the bad guys can do when we get involved.

as for main characters......eh....I do still have an arc planned for Jade, its just taken a ridiculously long time to get to it. but for the timeskip in general I do have some idea for her being a more experienced sensei type of person now training younger warriors to protect the world in a school of martial arts. one of them basically being someone similar to an Otsutsuki. because in Naruto that sort of character is a godlike being you can only hope to beat through extreme measures. here, they're just another student. may had other ideas but I'm probably going to cut most of them and come up with new ones to focus on quality over quantity. the otsutsuki-esque character is one of the few I even remember so they're in.

yes for Trombone as soon as we finish this arc, yes.

[igordragonian]

Hmm. Would Vodkana's child go there?
I just wonder how to design him/her/they

[Lord Raziere]

well its a school for fighting and martial arts. there would classes to start with the basics sure, but Jade herself would be teaching the more advanced stuff to the students who are ready for it- the ones who show potential. she can't teach all of them after all and need to look for those who show promise to be the next protectors of the universe. it would depend on how talented and mentally ready they are which classes they would get into.

[Rater202]

What would the age range for the school be?

[Lord Raziere]

What would the age range for the school be?

teenagers, so 13-18? mostly that, as Dragonball training tends to extend past that and far into adult years if Goku the super-legendary genius fighter is still training to get more powerful at his age. 16 would probably be the minimum age to be allowed to get thrown into actual life or death fights though.

its kinda of a meta inspiration-commentary from this like MHA or Naruto where the action shows like have moved to that kind of setting/age range for its protagonists. basically its My Martial Artist Academia.

[Rater202]

Okay, I was just wondering if it would make sense for Rye to have been a student at some point.

If it's a ten-year time skip she'll be 20 when we pick up.

[Rater202]

A random observation I feel like sharing.

In Dragonball Z Abridged episode 11, while in the hospital Goku says "all my friends are already here" in response to being told he has another visitor.

Mr. Popo responds with "not all of them."

This phrasing in that context(specifically, Goku saying "already") would indicate that Popo considers himself to be one of Goku's friends.

...And then later in the series, we see that Popo is much more lenient with Goku than he is with anyone other than Kami(or Dende)

Just thought that observation might be apreicated

[Lord Raziere]

Yeah, its one of those subtle details about DBZA: Goku is definitely not smart about most things....but after the first season, they do nail his friends being actual friends with Goku while also keeping their interactions humorous. they know his flaws and put up with him but they don't hate him for it like real friends would. also, Popo's words could refer to Tien, Yamcha and Chiaotzu not being alive and thus not being in Goku's hospital room.

anyways. I should get to work on various things that need to be worked on for this, new sheets for the Referas, the Majin sheets, figuring out the arcs I have planned, its been so long and the roleplay has moved so slowly that all my plans just kind of fell off my radar. so I'll have to refigure out everything.

[igordragonian]

I have some wierd ideas..

I was thinking of shipping Spoon and Dishanna, and their child will be mixed with Hailing's genetics.
Maybe?

I was thinking, maybe he would be super strict and stiff, trying to not to dissapoint..

[Rater202]

Information about Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero.

According to the second and third trailers, the two new androids seem to legitimately believe that they're the good guys, Pan gets kidnapped by the reborn Red Ribbon army, and Broly is in the movie in some capacity.

(Some people are speculating that Goku goes to Visit Broly or that Broly has been convinced to train with Goku and Vegeta to explain the absence of Goku and Vegeta in the plot.)

The trailer also implies that Gohan has achieved some form greater than what he possesses in his ultimate form... But we don't actually see a transformation in the trailer so it could be a fake-out(all they say is that it's a never-before-seen evolution. I'm still hoping for Pan to get a 'leave my daddy alone' moment.)

And it makes a reference to the birth of an ultimate evil and the final trailer ends on a scene of some kind of high-tech container malfunctioning while people panic.

Fans are speculating that it's a reimagined Android 13, a resurrected or recreated Cell, or the canon version of Android 21 but that might just be wishful thinking.

Piccolo is shown in a form that makes his skin lighter and yellowish while also making the skin on his arms smoother, with promotional materials referring to it as his "Potential Unleashed" form but it isn't clear if he had his potential unlocked by Elder Kai or if he just broke into some form that removes his limiters while training.

[igordragonian]

thank you for the update!

[igordragonian]

So I take it we are ready for Trombone Saga?

[igordragonian]

working on a very long post.....
+character sheet for Vodkana's son
+maybe for more characters.