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    Default Re: Girl Genius XXV: It needs work! BUT THE CONCEPT IS SOUND!

    Quote Originally Posted by PraetorDragoon View Post
    Why are we even surprised?
    The phrase "surprising yet inevitable" pops into mind here. We all knew how it was going to end, but why it happened surprised us. And only because it's been so long since Agatha did anything not strictly Good, so we forgot she isn't. Here is where the D&D alignment system fails due to lack of granularity: Agatha is clearly somewhere between CG and CN. And I think Klaus thankfully shows that not all sparks are Chaotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PraetorDragoon View Post
    What about Bang and whatever pirates she has scrounged up?
    She's focused on Zeetha. And if she saw Tarvek she would be calling him Prince Squealy. Also Bang wouldn't hesitate to shoot if she was so inclined.
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    Default Re: Girl Genius XXV: It needs work! BUT THE CONCEPT IS SOUND!

    The question is, knowing her as he does, why is Wooster surprised by this? Sabotage was a possibility, yes. But so was turning it up to eleven.

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    Default Re: Girl Genius XXV: It needs work! BUT THE CONCEPT IS SOUND!

    Yup. She's a Heterodyne.

    Poor Wooster - his expression is so "first Gil, now this..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by PraetorDragoon View Post
    Why are we even surprised?
    Replying to this again because it was annoyingly familiar. And the I remembered why I missed Von Zinzer so much.
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    Default Re: Girl Genius XXV: It needs work! BUT THE CONCEPT IS SOUND!

    Quote Originally Posted by eee View Post
    The question is, knowing her as he does, why is Wooster surprised by this? Sabotage was a possibility, yes. But so was turning it up to eleven.
    Eleven? This is a Madgirl we're talking about--there's a quadratic equation involved here.

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    The more I look at this, the more I worry that Lu may be influencing Agatha right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HandofShadows View Post
    The more I look at this, the more I worry that Lu may be influencing Agatha right now.
    That, or the summoned extradimensional being will be a version of Lu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedScholarGypsy View Post
    Replying to this again because it was annoyingly familiar. And the I remembered why I missed Von Zinzer so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geoduck View Post
    That, or the summoned extradimensional being will be a version of Lu.
    Or both at the same time. It already happened before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HandofShadows View Post
    The more I look at this, the more I worry that Lu may be influencing Agatha right now.
    That's definitely a possibility. Zeetha & Maxim's discussion a few pages back could certainly foreshadow that. Maybe there are a number of stress factors that allow Lucrezia some wiggle room to manipulate Agatha? Or maybe the fugue state makes Agatha more susceptible to Lucrezia?

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    Default Re: Girl Genius XXV: It needs work! BUT THE CONCEPT IS SOUND!

    Is von Zinzer still in Mechanicberg? If Gil had an ounce of sense he'd be second priority after Tarvek, but then if Sparks had sense by the ounce we wouldn't need von Zinzer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xroads View Post
    That's definitely a possibility. Zeetha & Maxim's discussion a few pages back could certainly foreshadow that. Maybe there are a number of stress factors that allow Lucrezia some wiggle room to manipulate Agatha? Or maybe the fugue state makes Agatha more susceptible to Lucrezia?
    We know exhaustion makes it easier to influence agatha. Even through the necklace. Its not direct control, it doesnt even seem to be subtle control so much as... leakage of mannerisms and subconscious knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SZbNAhL View Post
    Is von Zinzer still in Mechanicberg? If Gil had an ounce of sense he'd be second priority after Tarvek, but then if Sparks had sense by the ounce we wouldn't need von Zinzer.
    Probably, but we don't know for certain. Agatha and Violet have a conversation on the train where they say he is, but it's not made clear if they actually know, or are just assuming.

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    Given his luck, he was standing behind Klaus when the time stop kicked in.

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    Default Re: Girl Genius XXV: It needs work! BUT THE CONCEPT IS SOUND!

    i would say that Agatha has seen through the fuss and is right not to be afraid of activating the device after repairing the sabotage done by others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onyavar View Post
    i would say that Agatha has seen through the fuss and is right not to be afraid of activating the device after repairing the sabotage done by others.
    I think that would involve a greater degree of thought than she's actually put into this. The thought process seems to have been "Summoning a critter from another dimension sounds fun. Fixing this machine is also fun. DO IT!".

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    Quote Originally Posted by SZbNAhL View Post
    Is von Zinzer still in Mechanicberg? If Gil had an ounce of sense he'd be second priority after Tarvek, but then if Sparks had sense by the ounce we wouldn't need von Zinzer.
    Actually Gil would try to get von Zinzer out, but I doubt Gil knows where he is.
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    Yeah, I don't think this is Lucrezia's influence.

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    Agatha already indicated she wanted to watch a extradimensional horror being summoned. From there it is a small step to do the summoning yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PraetorDragoon View Post
    What about Bang and whatever pirates she has scrounged up?
    Bang would use a blade and more menacing language...25-1.

    Steelgarter would use that weapon and speech, but left England...15-1.

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    Agatha already indicated she wanted to watch a extradimensional horror being summoned. From there it is a small step to do the summoning yourself.
    This might be the most important comic since Agatha was recognized by blood.

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    Yeah its kinda undeniably.
    Othar is correct in that Sparks are the source of all the madness.
    Albia is wise in keeping all the maniacs in a place where they can be blown up.
    The Master did have a weird system, where you need time inside Paris to earn time inside Paris.

    And now Klaus has been proved right in that allowing him to hang out with Agartha is in fact a massive risk.
    She just have to strong a Spark. Without the common sense or survival instinct Gil and Tarvek has to temper it.

    Of course, its likely safer for everyone else if they were around to protect Europe from her.
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    In typical Heterodyne fashion, she walked into a secret convension of sparks, and outsparked everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    Eleven? This is a Madgirl we're talking about--there's a quadratic equation involved here.
    So it was turned up to 121?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlet Knight View Post
    Steelgarter would use that weapon and speech, but left England...15-1.
    She didn't leave England, just the dome for another more public part of Londinium where the museum of oddities is located. But yeah, it ain't her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keybounce View Post
    So it was turned up to 121?
    No still 11, it's just the scale is logarithmic.

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    Still no idea who was wielding that pistol.

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    So is there a missing page or are Higgs and Tarvek just really hard to phase and the gun-wielder was killed off-panel?

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    You can just see the gun in a holster at Time-Shifting Guy's hip.

    And the sacrifice is going to be Violetta.

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    Default Re: Girl Genius XXV: It needs work! BUT THE CONCEPT IS SOUND!

    Nice Spot check on the first, and I agree on the second.

    Well, more accurately I think she's replaced whoever the planned sacrifice is, because SmokeKnight and we haven't been reminded how OP they are for a while.

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