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    Fat? Of course not. I am simply noting that you have about the same size as a small house. You are, indeed, the picture of health and fitness for a dragon.

    I, on the other hand, am small enough to fit inside a desk drawer. Nevertheless, I think I can protect the people who feed me from the ravages of larger, more aggressive dragons. I am told I have a very impressive roar.
    More aggressive? Nonsense. I love my dragon kin.

    I was just wondering why you'd want a pie when you're rock fed.

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    I was just wondering why you'd want a pie when you're rock fed.
    Pie a la geode is very popular, I hear.

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    In a world with droids, wouldn't high-end droids or civilian droid armies be an equivalent to that, though?
    But then, how many status symbols in our society actually make economic sense? Go into communities that are really into watches, spirits, cars, etc. and you'll see plenty of folks talk about how "Brand X is what everyone knows, but this model by Brand Y is actually much higher quality," or "Brand Z actually costs a lot more and you have to be pretty well connected to even buy one." Sometimes culture just idiosyncratically decides that a certain kind of thing denotes wealth and power, even if objectively a different kind of thing requires more wealth to obtain or projects more power in practice.

    In Star Wars, most people don't really recognize the sentience or individuality of droids. Even if your sentient organic slave is cheaper and much more useless than your team of battle droids, owning a person might project more of a sense of dominance than owning a highly advanced set of combat toasters.

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    I was just wondering why you'd want a pie when you're rock fed.
    *applause*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    I was just wondering why you'd want a pie when you're rock fed.
    And why can't you put rocks in a pie crust, hmmmm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by factotum View Post
    And why can't you put rocks in a pie crust, hmmmm?
    Sure you can, but thats like the Cookie Monster asking why he doesn't get pie; just because you can put cookies in it doesn't mean one assumes such a thing, you gotta specify. For example:
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    Pie a la geode is very popular, I hear.
    Besides, that'd probably make the pie weigh 14 lbs.
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    So a stone pie weighs a stone? Nice touch.

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    Also (d) as a status symbol (which is not entirely disconnected from economics, so it's not exactly covered under (c)). Showing off your wealth in ludicrous manner has always been a crucial component of the top echelons of society. These days, it is by e.g. buying ridiculous yatches or watches. In the late Roman Republic and early Roman Empire, the richest families flaunted their wealth and thus status by owning slaves that had no real duties - think a slave whose entire job was opening the left door to the dining room (with a matching set for the right door). A slave to bring the food, and a different one to take it away. That kind of thing. These slaves, meant to show off, probably were better fed than 90% of the population. You don't want the Jonesi to be put off their dinner, after all.

    (At its height, the richest families had so much wealth that even that was not sufficient. There are only so many menial jobs to give, after all. Around this point, the richest families would flaunt wealth by how many slaves they had given their freedom - to the point that the Emperor had to limit how many a family could free per year. That is how rich the Roman Empire richest families were at its height).

    This likely doesn't apply to SW1:PM, though.

    ETA: In fact, thinking about it, I suspect that Watto had two slaves for reason (e): wealth storage. Like owning a good horse or a painting or a pig, if you buy low and sell high, you can make a killing. Slaves can appreciate if you don't mistreat them, so it's possible Watto bought the pregnant, out of her luck girl and was angling to sell mother and child as soon as he can spin the child as a gifted mechanic.

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    How does one become a slave, though? In some societies, citizens could become slaves as some form of sanction, for example, by not paying up one's debt.

    And when you start including people as potential commodities that can be traded, well... that puts a value on people, and if there is good sales value, it can turn them into a form of currency. "How much for that pod racer?" "5000 quatloots" "I don't have that many, what about 2000 quatloos and 5 slaves" "Uhm, sure, sold!" I mean, Tatooine doesn't use republic credits. Maybe they there's a preference to trade with goods rather than currency.

    That said, I don't think one should try to make sense of SW's economy.
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    One shouldn't try to make sense of D&D's economy either, and yet there's always someone who does.

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    One shouldn't try to make sense of D&D's economy either, and yet there's always someone who does.
    Quite true. The standard D&D worlds make no sense whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin_Priest View Post
    Quite true. The standard D&D worlds make no sense whatsoever.
    D&D ecomonics are just as good as pen and paper RPGs developed by economists.
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    D&D ecomonics are just as good as pen and paper RPGs developed by economists.
    So they are overly complicated and rather unfun?
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    Rockphed said it well.
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    So they are overly complicated and rather unfun?
    That, and everyone who tries to make sense of em should know better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borris View Post
    One shouldn't try to make sense of D&D's economy either, and yet there's always someone who does.
    Someone who makes sense of D&D's economy?! Color me impressed.

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    Someone who makes sense of D&D's economy?! Color me impressed.
    There's always someone who does try, not someone who makes sense of it. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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    That's a great way to put it, yeah. There've been movies where that worked wonderfully, and then movies where I'm like, "why is Sam Jackson in this universe and going by a different name?"
    I thought he was very good in Unbreakable, which was something of a departure from his usual "badass" type by being an intellectual guy who's ridiculously fragile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyEowyn View Post
    I thought he was very good in Unbreakable, which was something of a departure from his usual "badass" type by being an intellectual guy who's ridiculously fragile.
    The first time I ever saw him was in that movie (Is 'in' the correct preposition here?). I was a kid and it left an impression on me. Since then, every time I see him anywhere there's a part of me that's worried he'll slip and break all his bones.

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    The first time I ever saw him was in that movie (Is 'in' the correct preposition here?). I was a kid and it left an impression on me. Since then, every time I see him anywhere there's a part of me that's worried he'll slip and break all his bones.
    That's right. Anything a movie directly presents is "in" the movie, such as actors, events, songs, or props. More overarching things such as plot or soundtrack can also be "to" or "of" the movie. Crewmembers who work offscreen, such as editors and equipment operators, are usually "of" the movie, as in "the director of the movie".
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    There's always someone who does try, not someone who makes sense of it. Sorry to burst your bubble.
    Does the Tippyverse count? That's the closest I've seen to a coherent view of the D&D world.

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    And why can't you put rocks in a pie crust, hmmmm?
    You can if you're blind-baking it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aveline View Post
    That's right. Anything a movie directly presents is "in" the movie, such as actors, events, songs, or props. More overarching things such as plot or soundtrack can also be "to" or "of" the movie. Crewmembers who work offscreen, such as editors and equipment operators, are usually "of" the movie, as in "the director of the movie".
    Thanks for the lesson. I think I get it now.
    After all this time prepositions still give me trouble.

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    Thanks for the lesson. I think I get it now.
    After all this time prepositions still give me trouble.
    Word. Although one thing I have discovered is that, what with English being so widespread and so willing to steal, plunder & ransack any language that is within 100 Mm of it, you can pretty much put whatever preposition you want and some dialect, somewhere, will turn out to have used it that way. English: so broken, you technically cannot use it wrong.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    English: so broken, you technically cannot use it wrong.
    Wrongly.

    (Vague memories of my English teacher finger waving at us due to adverbs modifying a verb, an adjective, or another adverb. Wrongly modifies use (verb) in that clause. Wrong, an adjective (which modifies a noun), might modify "word" in stating "I used the wrong word there." )
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    As long as it's X-bar diagrammable, anything goes.
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    Wrongly.
    I think that was the joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    I think that was the joke.
    Maybe I should've gone with "You ain't ever gonna use it bad". But I felt that was too much on the nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    Maybe I should've gone with "You ain't ever gonna use it bad". But I felt that was too much on the nose.

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    English: so broken, you technically cannot use it wrong.
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    I've been thinking about going back to college to get a degree in Lit. Theory and have been reading up on Linguistics (Since it is where I'm weakest). I'm so over grammar right now. English is a terrible gothic amalgamation that I am simultaneously Surprised that people still speak it and completely understand that Native English speakers would insist on outsiders suffer with them.

    Sometimes you just gotta give up the goat and admit that it's a terribly constructed language.

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    Can I sig this?
    Go ahead, by all means.

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    d6 Did comic 1156 just answer V male/female debate.

    Take a look at what Blackwing says that suggests female to me in a very blanton way.

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    It's not a debate.
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