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    Technically she could have been level 6 before she was killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by understatement View Post
    Technically she could have been level 6 before she was killed.
    That's why she should be [USG] 1+/Cleric 4+. She may have been L6. Or L7. Or higher (not too high though, since she's markedly lower than the OotS members). We don't know, and the stat block should reflect the uncertainty.
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    Sorry if it has already been stated but o chul has a few lvls of fighter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard_Lizard View Post
    Sorry if it has already been stated but o chul has a few lvls of fighter.
    The entry does state that he's a fighter/paladin. It says he has 12+ total levels, of which 3-4 are paladin levels. Saying he has fighter level 8+ would be redundant.

    I don't know how the inferences were made but I'm guessing we have positive information on O-Chul's total levels and paladin levels, so those are the pieces of information used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nith View Post
    The entry does state that he's a fighter/paladin. It says he has 12+ total levels, of which 3-4 are paladin levels. Saying he has fighter level 8+ would be redundant.

    I don't know how the inferences were made but I'm guessing we have positive information on O-Chul's total levels and paladin levels, so those are the pieces of information used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterdeep Merch View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nith View Post
    The entry does state that he's a fighter/paladin. It says he has 12+ total levels, of which 3-4 are paladin levels. Saying he has fighter level 8+ would be redundant.

    I don't know how the inferences were made but I'm guessing we have positive information on O-Chul's total levels and paladin levels, so those are the pieces of information used.
    The reasoning is explained in the first post. In this case, O-Chul has Aura of Courage that Paladins get at level 3 (Redcloak mentions O-Chul is immune to fear in the linked strip), but he doesn't have a paladin mount which is aquired at level 5. Thus, he has 3 or 4 paladin levels.

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    So what class or racial ability grants the blue flamed sword that the convoluted familial relation who took Chad's former love wields?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quebbster View Post
    The reasoning is explained in the first post. In this case, O-Chul has Aura of Courage that Paladins get at level 3 (Redcloak mentions O-Chul is immune to fear in the linked strip), but he doesn't have a paladin mount which is aquired at level 5. Thus, he has 3 or 4 paladin levels.
    Oh, I didn't really care to look. It wasn't important. But thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorSarda View Post
    So what class or racial ability grants the blue flamed sword that the convoluted familial relation who took Chad's former love wields?
    I dunno, but allow me to be the first to suggest that we immediately make an entry for him because that was cool, even though he meets none of the criteria and we know nothing about him.

    I'm curious to see what anyone wants to posit for him though (I'm going with him even though I think we may have established that female dwarves may have facial hair and Durkon's relative could be a lesbian because I trust the Giant to have spelled fiancee with two e's if it were a female dwarf).

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    He doesn't have the female body curves*, though. Torso looks more like Durkon than Minrah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorSarda View Post
    So what class or racial ability grants the blue flamed sword that the convoluted familial relation who took Chad's former love wields?
    Well the obvious option is that he is a Soulknife (possibly with a level in Fighter since he's wearing heavy armor)

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    Soulknife weapons have been seen before - looking a bit cruder:

    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0730.html

    This guy's weapon has a proper crossguard. Perhaps he's using the clerical Spiritual Weapon spell, and he's Lawful?

    http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/spiritualWeapon.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamishspence View Post
    Soulknife weapons have been seen before - looking a bit cruder:

    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0730.html

    This guy's weapon has a proper crossguard. Perhaps he's using the clerical Spiritual Weapon spell, and he's Lawful?

    http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/spiritualWeapon.htm
    It's not attacking at a distance, though.

    My first thought was that it was "just" a brilliant energy weapon, although the description doesn't quite match (though I think it'd pass if only looking at the spells required?)....My second thought was that it's not going to matter this time, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasdoif View Post

    My first thought was that it was "just" a brilliant energy weapon, although the description doesn't quite match (though I think it'd pass if only looking at the spells required?)....
    It's not unheard of for a brilliant energy weapon to be depicted as all energy, not just the head/blade:

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    My best guess would be incarnate. They get glowing blue weapons, and lawful incarnates specifically get a longsword. (Probably not using incarnum radiance at the moment, though; lawful incarnates using their radiance class feature "glow with a blood-red corona.")
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    The only classes that I know of that get a sword made out of energy are soulknife and incarnate (well, to be pedantic, anyone with Shape Soulmeld: Incarnate Weapon), and both have only showed up in the strip as butts of jokes about how weak they are (as opposed to one-shotting greater elementals).
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    Query, I think I read this in another thread, but isn't the Spiritual Weapon of one type of Cleric a longsword like our mystery character is wielding?

    I look forward to learning more about our oddly-speech ballooned stranger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosty View Post
    Query, I think I read this in another thread, but isn't the Spiritual Weapon of one type of Cleric a longsword like our mystery character is wielding?

    I look forward to learning more about our oddly-speech ballooned stranger.
    Spiritual weapon doesn't need to be held, though, like a sword bigby's hand. I think it could just be a magic item, or any of the other things everyone else has mentioned. But from his rule of cool badassery he probably has the Cleave feat as well as some decent dexterity to stick the landing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gluteus_Maximus View Post
    Spiritual weapon doesn't need to be held, though, like a sword bigby's hand. I think it could just be a magic item, or any of the other things everyone else has mentioned. But from his rule of cool badassery he probably has the Cleave feat as well as some decent dexterity to stick the landing
    the Flame Blade druid spell is a possibility - but it would raise certain questions about what kind of armour this person is wearing. I think stone plate armour from Races of Stone is usable by dwarf druids though.
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    Or you know....
    It could just be a fancy magic weapon.
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    That sight is dynamite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemera View Post
    I dunno, but allow me to be the first to suggest that we immediately make an entry for him because that was cool, even though he meets none of the criteria and we know nothing about him.

    I'm curious to see what anyone wants to posit for him though (I'm going with him even though I think we may have established that female dwarves may have facial hair and Durkon's relative could be a lesbian because I trust the Giant to have spelled fiancee with two e's if it were a female dwarf).
    He's at least an outsider with those speech boxes, right? Or possible Aasimar?

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    Or a shapechanged blue dragon - dragons have been known to have coloured background, white text, white border, for speech bubbles:

    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0638.html

    I think this is the first time since Celia, that the combo of blue background, white text, white border, has been used. Hence the theory that, if he is an outsider, he's probably an Outsider from the Plane of Air like Celia is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamishspence View Post
    Or a shapechanged blue dragon - dragons have been known to have coloured background, white text, white border, for speech bubbles:

    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0638.html

    I think this is the first time since Celia, that the combo of blue background, white text, white border, has been used. Hence the theory that, if he is an outsider, he's probably an Outsider from the Plane of Air like Celia is.
    Also in evidence in that strip: soul-spliced characters get odd speech balloons. Probably not the same from character to character either - pink is the color of Vaarsuvius's dweomer in particular, and that likely influenced her speech bubble.

    Could this guy be a Binder (Tome of Magic)?

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    While the black dragons have had white text and border, black dragons might be unique that way. The red dragon and the blue half-dragon we see in the Empire of Blood, have coloured text and border, rather than white text and border:

    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0638.html
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    It has been stated in the strip thread that he is visually similar to a class The Giant created, called Champion.
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    Could this guy be a Binder (Tome of Magic)?
    I think a Trapper Keeper is more likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D.One View Post
    It has been stated in the strip thread that he is visually similar to a class The Giant created, called Champion.
    Straight away, the "While the champion might also have an interest in such worldly affairs as money, the champion's avatar form cares only for its divine mission." seems to virtually rule that out. Besides, the avatar would not be Durkon's "cousin's brother in law's niece's fiance", only the host would.

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    It has been stated in the strip thread that he is visually similar to a class The Giant created, called Champion.
    There is a superhero class.













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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood View Post
    Well the obvious option is that he is a Soulknife (possibly with a level in Fighter since he's wearing heavy armor)
    I’m not sure that’s heavy armor. In the panel when he lands, it flexes a lot. It looks more like black leather to me, though it could be an exotic material.
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