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2019-08-26, 04:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
So is anyone else going back to the nostalgia well for this one?
Relive the old days by WALKING to the Scarlet Monestary too broke for a mount?
Already have your names reserved and several IVs of caffeinated saline?
I think I settled on a Shaman on one of the RP servers, but can't decide on profession.
There's leatherworking for obvious reasons, alchemy for money and price gouging those dirty rogues on herbs, or blacksmith-weaponsmith-axe master to get an ARCANITE REAPER (ho!)Ask me about our low price vacation plans in the Elemental Plane of Puppies and PieSpoiler
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2019-08-27, 05:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
i considered it, but one of my gaming guilds posted pics of server queues in the 20k's.....
last time i reupped for normal wow, i went from 0-100 in like a week of casual play. i much preferred the vanilla wow experience where exploring actually meant something, and an epic mount was an actual achievement, but i have a hard time justifying to myself a game subscription for wow at all.
Originally Posted by Peelee
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2019-08-27, 09:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
Highest queue I've seen is 700+ minutes for Whitemane. Imagine waiting in line 12 hours to play WoW, then server maintenance starts.
Last night I rolled a toon on one of the new last minute servers just to get on and play. Made it about 5 levels with a new Warrior, debating if I want to continue with it or do something else. I know I'll be doing a Tauren Shaman when I can find time to play with my friends, but I am second guessing the wisdom of making a Warrior as my "I want to play around solo" character.If my text is blue, I'm being sarcastic.But you already knew that, right?
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2019-08-27, 09:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
If we can say anything about this launch, it's that it's an authentic Classic WoW launch. XD
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2019-08-27, 09:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
Warriors are hard to play solo so if you're already second guessing it you probably might want to roll a Hunter, Warlock or Druid instead. No shame, either, since every class is needed and can have fun times in world PvP or grouping.
If I had the time and money to put into Classic WoW I'd probably try to be the Hunter groups actually want to have, a terror in world PvP, and not the dreaded character who pulls whole instances with his pet.
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2019-08-27, 09:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
At least you'll gear up fast, because All loot is Hunter loot in Classic.
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2019-08-27, 12:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
Let me tell you a story.
Back in original vanilla I raided as a hunter. Now, I had one of those anime-style rivalries with one of our dps warriors. One of his complaints was that I managed to get a Zin'Rohk (I needs me my Raptor strikes). So what I did was start squirreling away DKP and convinced him to take an Eye of Ragnaros.
So, that means I was always ahead of him on DKP and as a veteran hunter compared to newer warriors, I was allowed to be on the list for an Akshandi. I had my coup set up. and it. never. dropped.
Also, almost done with the starter zone. Time to see what the "gogogo" crowd does when exposed to RFC.Ask me about our low price vacation plans in the Elemental Plane of Puppies and PieSpoiler
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2019-08-28, 02:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
Friend of mine has been dipping his toes into Classic but he says he's having a hard time getting into the feeling.
Everytime he gets going someone shouts from the bathroom "daaadddyyy I need a wipe" or there's two kids wrestling and screaming bloody murder in his gameroom.
Apparently Wow is no longer quite the same game it was.
He plans on complaining to Blizzard that they've bodged the implementation.
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2019-08-28, 03:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
I have fond memories of vanilla WOW, but know better than to look at it through rose coloured glasses.
Unfortunately there are a large number of people out there (not here though) who don't. They are very vocal, lets just say, in their belief that somehow classic will destroy the retail version of wow, that Blizz will drop the modern version like a hot potato the instant they see classic in action and that it will bring back all those past players who left because of changes to the game and that people want a hard core grinding game and deride the retail version as casual ezy-mode.
Yeah, there are people out there who actual believe that.
The funny thing is that wow itself was derided as casual ezy-mode at release by player so of other mmos. How things change. And also, up to the end of WOTLK, the high point in wow subscriptions, 100 million people had joined the game but only 10 million had been subscribed at any one time. Early wow had a lot of player turnover.
I haven't played wow since mid-legion - I managed to finally kick the habit. I started back in the beta of wow and have well over 365 days of /played time. Too much time really. But I do plan on some day having a look at classic, just for the nostalgia of seeing the pre-cataclysm world once more.
There are a lot of changes since them I'm glad were mad - such as removing the ridiculous hybrid tax, fixing inventory management, moving things like mounts, pets, tabards etc to their own inventories, improving the flow of questing and so on.
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2019-08-29, 06:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
I've been thinking on and off for months about getting back into Classic WoW, but in the end decided not to do it for several reasons.
First, I spent way too much time playing WoW back in the vanilla and BC eras, and getting back into it now would either result in very little time for the game or a negative impact on other parts of my life and, frankly, WoW isn't worth it. Plus, even if it didn't end up negatively impacting my job and health (which it almost certainly would) it would also mean shelving all of the other games and social activities I have too. As fun as raiding was at the time, I don't need to deal with "well, I can't do anything Tuesday and Thursday nights, cause those are raid nights"
Second, the lack of balance fixes. Vanilla WoW was horribly balanced between the classes, and I have no desire to go back into that "Well, you're an X so you must do Y" thing. I'm all for people doing whatever they can to help in a group fight, but hour(s) of spamming the same one or two abilities over and over and over, or alternatively having people screaming at you that you don't know how to play your class, I don't need that anymore. And then the terrible itemization in end-game gear if you try to do anything outside of the "stock" role. If we were looking at BC or Wrath where things were more balanced then it would be a more attractive proposition for me, but not vanilla.
Third, 40-man raids are awful. Just awful. Sure, there's an amazing epic feeling the first couple times, and then it devolves quickly into waiting around for ages for everyone to show up and then you've got a bunch of trolls or night elves jumping constantly like drugged up rabbits and shouting on vent (or I guess discord now). And don't get me started on waiting weeks if not months to get some drops because there's at least a half dozen other people who want the thing you want even if the boss happens to provide it. 20s were somewhat better, but even then a bit big for my taste and I've done ZG and AQ20 more than enough already. I really think many of the 10-man raids in later expansions were the best ones.
Now, you might say "well, you're just talking about the raids, there's plenty of other stuff", and I'm actually going to disagree there. There *was* plenty of other stuff, but not anymore, at least for me. I've no desire for PvP, both due to balance issues and the fact that you need either raid gear or to do a ridiculous grind if you don't want to get stomped. Professions, especially compared to BC and WotLK were pretty bad. The dungeons I mostly like but I've done them all a bunch of times both at release and since then and even then they still run into the problem that vanilla WoW is a solved game. Exploration, same thing, I've seen most of it and also as I said at the beginning if I don't spend tons of time in WoW there's plenty of other game worlds to explore as well. And the vanilla rep grinds were miserable. Screw you, furbolgs, I'm not doing that again!
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2019-08-29, 11:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
I'm interested in reliving my nostalgia like many others, but I'm waiting until the hype dies down a bit and I can actually play. Even if you down the login screen boss so you can actually play, people are literally queueing up in-game to be able to get certain quests done. Impressive, certainly, but not my idea of engaging gameplay.
I'm also not that keen to reach endgame for the reasons Ailurus mentioned.Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2019-08-29, 11:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
I only ever played classic towards the end, I started one or two patches before BC came out, and played through a chunk of Wrath. I've really got no interest at all in going back for a number of reasons, but it's both entertaining and enlightening to see why people go back to it, and the things that happen when they do, like the quest queues and such.
So its fascinating from an outside perspective, but I'm not going to touch it myself."And if you don't, the consequences will be dire!"
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2019-08-29, 01:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
Considered it strongly, but ultimately made a pass for two reasons
1. I simply don't have the time to dedicate, that i believe it deserves. (... then again, I'm fairly bingeing on osrs which makes even the moderate grinds in wow classic look downright casual)
2. Even if I had, there's probably enough other games that I enjoy too much for it to get the time it deserves, and likely would be ahead, either due to already invested time, or a different type of gaming experience which is more to my liking (moderately complex strategy games).
Still very happy that it happened through even if I'm uncertain if i see myself throwing enough into it to get reasonably 'rewarded' for it in terms of satisfactionLast edited by Sian; 2019-08-29 at 01:05 PM.
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2019-08-29, 04:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
I think the universe is trying to tell me something with the timing, since WoW Classic came out right after the revival of City of Heroes, the game that kept me from getting into WoW in the early days. Still, I'm glad that WoW Classic is turning out to be so massively popular, since if there's one thing a CoH fan can relate to, it's not being allowed to play the game you enjoyed.
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2019-08-30, 04:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
My thing is that while I loved WoW classic, I'm not looking to play WoW classic *again*, what I want to see is new games which actually successfully incorporate what made classic WoW great: A detailed, well realized setting, fun, engaging gameplay, and good, rewarding progression, which doesn't simply rely on repeating the same 7 to 10 maps over and over again (Hello, Destiny and The Division!).
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2019-09-02, 01:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
There is only one reason why I never actually return to WoW: Levelling alone. If there is any place in the WoW universe where new players are levelling their toon, I want in.
So um, is there? Is Classic actually full of lowbies?
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2019-09-02, 01:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
People are largely in the early 30s and of course starting areas on themy server.
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2019-09-02, 01:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-02, 01:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-02, 02:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
So Classic has been up only 5 days and already MC has been cleared by one guild and they took down raggy on the first attempt.
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2019-09-02, 10:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
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2019-09-02, 10:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
Just for giggles, I went and looked at Method's timeline of World Firsts. In order of release-to-death reflecting max available difficulty:
Spoiler: Spoilered for LengthClassic
Onyxia - 69 days
Ragnaros - 154 days
Nefarian - 77 days
C'thun - 113 days
Kel'Thuzad - 90 days
Burning Crusade
Gruul - 19 days
Magtheridon - 40 days
Vashj - 73 days
Kael'Thas - 130 days
Archimonde - 26 days
Illidan - 21 days
Kil'Jaeden - 62 days**
Wrath of the Lich King
Kel'Thuzad 2.0 - 3 days
Sartharion - 9 days
Malygos - 3 days
Yogg'Saron - 85 days
Anub'Arak - 7 days
Arthas - 46 days**
Halion - 8 days
Cataclysm
Nefarian (BWD) - 27 days
Sinestra - 38 days
Al'Akir - 42 days
Ragnaros (FL) - 14 days
Deathwing - 14 days
Mists of Pandaria
Mogu Emperors - 3 days
Empress Shek'zeer - 5 days
Sha of Fear - 5 days
Lei Shen - 14 days
Garrosh Hellscream - 14 days
Warlords of Draenor:
Imperator Mar'Gok - 4 days
Blackhand - 10 days
Archimonde (Hellfire Citadel) - 16 days
Legion
Xavius - 18 Hours
Helya - 3 days
Gul'dan - 11 days
Kil'Jaeden (Tomb of Sargeras) - 19 days
Argus the Unmaker - 8 days
Battle for Azeroth
G'huun - 8 days
Jaina Proudmoore - 7 days
Uu'nat - 9 days
Queen Azshara - 12 days
**Noted as being gated, survival length artificially extended.
It's certainly the shortest lifespan Ragnaros has ever had, on par with most of the easiest bosses - so that does imply the average player skill level has improved drastically since Original Classic. Specifically, he's the 7th quickest boss kill of all time. Though at least he's not the quickest kill...poor Xavius.Last edited by The Glyphstone; 2019-09-02 at 10:34 AM.
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2019-09-02, 10:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
I'm still level 10 in my highest character and there's a bunch of people at the same level as me still, to the point where it's pretty easy to just invite people to group who are doing the same quests.
As someone who never played classic wow I'm enjoying the chance to get to explore and figure things out and what not. Raiding is something I never plan to do, but it seems like there's probably well over a hundred hours of content just wandering around going all the different quests and dungeons.
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2019-09-02, 03:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
Part of it is probably raid difficulty - after all, most MC bosses do only have a handful of mechanics ("dispel the bad stuff" and "don't stand in the fire" solves the majority of the fights), but you can't discount the practice, though. On the one hand, yes it was only 5 days (which is impressive given that they had to go from 1 to around 60 in that time). But on the other hand, people have been practicing leveling and the MC fights for over a decade. Sure, the practice may not have been 100% accurate, but outside of specific gear-check bosses I would expect any group that has been rehearsing a fight for years to clear it first try even with minor inaccuracies in the trial runs.
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2019-09-02, 04:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
Well, also it was cleared by a group of people have been speedrunning this exact content on private servers for years, and who abused bugs that are now patched to level quickly. It's like saying Dark Souls is easy because you can speedrun it.
The "difficulty" people wanted from classic was never the raid bosses anyway. It was the fact that the game doesn't spoon feed you and you have to actually interact with the world instead of treating it as a theme park. This builds community. I played for 4 hours last night and I've already grouped more and made more friends than I did in 60 levels when I went back to BFA a few months ago.
So yeah, if you intentionally exploit bugs to avoid the parts of the game everyone was looking forward to, then it's not very good.
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2019-09-02, 05:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-02, 05:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
It's just ironic commentary on the nostalgia goggles of Classic raid bosses being 'actually hard' instead of the supposed faceroll easymode that is modern endgame raiding, apparently including Mythic difficulties sometimes. Classic Ragnaros was an anomaly not even matched by his contemporaries, only C'thun (who was initially overtuned to be impossible) and Classic Kel'Thuzad came close to his endurance. There's a definite downward trend of kill times, but I think that's from the narrower group of people attempting it - guilds like Method, Ascension, Paragon are for all intent and purposes full-time professional raiders. Wow's larger gross player base means there are more 'casuals', but that tiny fraction of hardcores have becoming increasingly hardcore.
I agree that most people going back to classic are looking for the community, not the 'difficulty'.NOW COMPLETE: Let's Play Starcraft II Trilogy:
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2019-09-02, 05:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
Am I the only one that is annoyed by the whole racing of world firsts?
I played a lot of Korea grinders back in the day so EXP/h is a metric I grew up with and even had extensions for installed. But hurrrying to max level discounting enjoyment is somehow a very annoying school of thought that actually devolved Wow into that weird theme park rush job it .is today.
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2019-09-02, 09:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-02, 10:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Shun the Light, It's WoW Classic Time
Funny thing is, I kinda tried that with the launch of Aion. My friends were all in this super ambitious guild where first of all I had to roll a specific class the GM deemed absolutely necessary. The main problem was... every other player was as bad as I was at the game and there was no team effort aside from a small 4 man and a husband and wife combo.
People gave me "advice" that was terrible. I played a Templar, which was supposed to be the tankiest class. They made me spec it out like a protection paladin/warrior. Which made me generate so little threat in dungeons mobs always ignored me. Which slowed my levelling to a grinding halt. There was a good focus on PvP so me doing no damage, no CC and being basically a big chunk of HP doing nothing wasn't very healthy either. On the evening of the second day our highest level pushed 36 (of 50 levels) and became annoyed by how slow the others were (husband/wife were 33 and 32, I was I think 25). Some people of the top guild pushed 40 by that time. Could've been very fun if we played together and people actually informed each other.I then rerolled to sorcerer (basically a choice of fire or frost mage) and later got my templar to at least the beginner's pvp set on max level.
I couldn't fathom playing another character that is sorely needed for raiding or pvp but levels like a truck that you would push uphill. I basically had to play a prot specced Paladin geared with exclusively stamina/block gear and a ****ty onehander for two weeks.