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    Such selflessness. It would bring a tear to my eye.

    Looks like the Exarch transitionned into his new position seamlessly.
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    New comic is up.
    Wow! In one comic, out the next.

    (In terms of the cool helper dwarf)
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    RIP long-suffering daughter. Your presence was short, but appreciated.

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    Hmm, mechanically I wonder if they failed to dominate her or just decided she wasn't important enough to even try. It looks like they dominated the other bodyguard.

    It's only the three vampires, right? The Ex-Exarch, the nameless one he took with him, and the one who fled the other battle.

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    The vampires unlive for their ideals. Highly commendable.

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    Hmm, mechanically I wonder if they failed to dominate her or just decided she wasn't important enough to even try.
    The latter, I think. She doesn't get a vote and doesn't carry a weapon, so her use to the vampires is nil.

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    RIP long-suffering daughter. Your presence was short, but appreciated.
    I think she got the honorable death she’d have wanted. And in any case she is free from hearing her mother’s ranting.
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    At least now I can get back to enjoying my glass of elven wine in peace and quiet, without being called on to intervene in someone else's problems.
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    Man, I hate these guys.


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    Man, I hate these guys.
    I quite like them. They're efficient and competent. Their defeat will be all the more earnt because of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    Such selflessness. It would bring a tear to my eye.

    Looks like the Exarch transitionned into his new position seamlessly.
    and thus I was right about this follower dwarf actually being pretty bossy all along and thus carries out his new position in this far more efficiently and actively than V-Durkon ever did.

    one wonders if Hel screwed herself over by constantly choosing dwarves that were truly obedient and thus lacked initiative or the will to command people themselves....
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    Something something equal distribution of misery, we get it

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    One wonders if Kubota's obscure prestige class would grant resistance to domination effects as well. Not that it would have helped much, mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Raziere View Post
    and thus I was right about this follower dwarf actually being pretty bossy all along and thus carries out his new position in this far more efficiently and actively than V-Durkon ever did.

    one wonders if Hel screwed herself over by constantly choosing dwarves that were truly obedient and thus lacked initiative or the will to command people themselves....
    Most of the Ex-Arch's scenes are entirely about him being completely subservient to Greg.
    I'm not sure you can call him as having iniative.

    Plus you can't call Greg as lacking initiative in the many plans he created in the course of his story.
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    Ohh - it's almost a political statement

    thanks giant!

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    Hm... this feels like a hint at why Durkula's mission "justifies everything thank you very much," but I'm not understanding why just yet, so at least we know it's not too late.


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    The Exarch is truly the John Lennon of our time.

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    Shouldn’t it be ‘guards, defend my...’?

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    and thus I was right about this follower dwarf actually being pretty bossy all along and thus carries out his new position in this far more efficiently and actively than V-Durkon ever did.
    Durkon* wasn’t efficient enough for you?

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    one wonders if Hel screwed herself over by constantly choosing dwarves that were truly obedient and thus lacked initiative or the will to command people themselves....
    She works with what she’s given, she doesn’t have enough minions to choose.
    Also Durkon* had a lot of initiative I think.
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    The Exarch -- showing once again how to manipulate language to justify his agenda.

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    So sad for the daughter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    Shouldn’t it be ‘guards, defend my...’?
    Not necessarily. She might not have grasped the seriousness of the situation and expected one guard to be enough. Or the other is just a trainee or something and doesn't get ordered directly, just follows the other's lead.

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    Disgusting! Poor dwarf, I just hope the casualties dont keep increasing before the Order can come to help.
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    I always thought everyone in medieval societies carried weapons of some sort, even if it's just a small knife. And that would apply more so in a world with lots of monsters. Especially if you're rich enough to afford bodyguards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warmachine View Post
    I always thought everyone in medieval societies carried weapons of some sort, even if it's just a small knife. And that would apply more so in a world with lots of monsters. Especially if you're rich enough to afford bodyguards.
    It isn't a medieval society, it's a parody of stereotypical fantasy dwarf society.

    Also, weapons weren't just allowed in medieval cities (specifically cities, not the countryside) - they were mandatory. For men.

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    I count six dominated council guards on the stairs, four by the gateway and two bodyguards. That makes at least twelve innocent expendable meatshields/hostages for the vampires. That’s not good.
    Also, the etymological discussion is kind of real world correct, so that’s amusing.
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    This is a solid demonstration of why the rules are crappy to begin with - because the evil gods actively want to make them even worse, and in the spirit of true compromise we end up with a system that nobody is happy with. Evil gods existing is a point I think a lot of the "but this system isn't fair!" crowd fails to grasp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyren View Post
    This is a solid demonstration of why the rules are crappy to begin with - because the evil gods actively want to make them even worse, and in the spirit of true compromise we end up with a system that nobody is happy with. Evil gods existing is a point I think a lot of the "but this system isn't fair!" crowd fails to grasp.
    It's not beyond our grasp, it just doesn't matter. If the Evil gods and their mortal followers can try to make the rules worse, then they can also, in principle, be made better. They don't have to be accepted just as they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    Not necessarily. She might not have grasped the seriousness of the situation and expected one guard to be enough. Or the other is just a trainee or something and doesn't get ordered directly, just follows the other's lead.

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    Doesn't guard also count as plural (or maybe non countable) as in City guard? Maybe that's what she meant... Nah, it's probably a typo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmerwald1915 View Post
    It isn't a medieval society, it's a parody of stereotypical fantasy dwarf society.

    Also, weapons weren't just allowed in medieval cities (specifically cities, not the countryside) - they were mandatory. For men.
    Generalizations are dangerous, especially when dealing with a period that is generally considered to have lasted some 1000 years and that spans such a large area. By the late Middle Ages, at least in some regions, cities often heavily regulated the carrying of weapons and outright banned everything larger than a knife of this or that size, and occasionally even banned all weapons altogether.
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