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    Quote Originally Posted by Maat Mons View Post
    Two of those chopsticks could plausibly be in holes made previously to fasten hinges, but what about the other two?
    I think you can see Tedd make a hole here, hitting an oversized nail or screwdriver with a hammer (thwack thwack) followed by more delicately fitting the chopstick inside (tap tap tap).
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    Dan says Tedd was using an awl. A drill would be better, if he had a bit that was just slightly smaller than the chopstick diameter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidSh View Post
    Dan says Tedd was using an awl. A drill would be better, if he had a bit that was just slightly smaller than the chopstick diameter.
    Yeah, but presumably he hasn't got a drill? I guess?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwertystop View Post
    Yeah, but presumably he hasn't got a drill? I guess?
    Maybe the mirror was out of range for an electric outlet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinyadan View Post
    Maybe the mirror was out of range for an electric outlet.
    Pretty much all electric drills have internal battery, so it should never be a problem. I do not think I have ever seen one without.

    Maybe making a small hole with an awl was faster than bringing in the heavy power tools. After all, those chopsticks do not need to be fastened that hard as there will be no mechanical load on them.
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    I bet it's actually that drawing a drill is more work than drawing a mallet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radar View Post
    Pretty much all electric drills have internal battery, so it should never be a problem. I do not think I have ever seen one without.

    Maybe making a small hole with an awl was faster than bringing in the heavy power tools. After all, those chopsticks do not need to be fastened that hard as there will be no mechanical load on them.
    It could also create less dirt. I don't think it makes any sawdust.

    Do even corded drills get a battery nowadays? I guess it can be convenient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinyadan View Post
    It could also create less dirt. I don't think it makes any sawdust.

    Do even corded drills get a battery nowadays? I guess it can be convenient.
    As a curiosity I looked around the selection in shops and this was actually the first time I noticed corded drills. I simply have never seen anyone (including professionals) using anything other than battery powered ones, but there are indeed corded drills without batteries available. Maybe they are useful in workshops, where you always use them in the same place for long hours? For typical house use though I do not see a reason not to go for a battery.
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    I have a corded drill at my job. It just stays in one area, so it doesn't really matter if it's not mobile. It's also probably 20-30 years old, so I don't know if battery drills were even a thing back then. Everything in this place is ancient. We have spools of wire from '92. The shipping docks are literally from the 50s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    I have a corded drill at my job. It just stays in one area, so it doesn't really matter if it's not mobile. It's also probably 20-30 years old, so I don't know if battery drills were even a thing back then. Everything in this place is ancient. We have spools of wire from '92. The shipping docks are literally from the 50s.
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    I second that it's because of the fact that a drill is way more difficult to draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mith View Post
    If the tool does the job you need it for, don't replace it just because!
    Heck, I'd say that for most applications, corded is likely a better, longer-lasting tool, if freedom of movement is not a requirement. Batteries tend to have a significantly shorter life than the tools they are attached to. I've gone through multiple electric toothbrushes, and what fails is never the mechanical mechanism that moves the head, for example, and it's not like I need to go for a walk while brushing my teeth (which I totally do because I can, but if it was corded, I'd be perfectly happy to stay in front of the sink). I've also similarly never really understood the purpose of making a computer mouse cordless. Under what scenario is it going to ever be so far from the computer that it couldn't just be plugged in constantly? Is it just the cool new toy factor? The supposed conspiracy of planned obsolescence? Bribes from the Duracell Bunny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    Heck, I'd say that for most applications, corded is likely a better, longer-lasting tool, if freedom of movement is not a requirement. Batteries tend to have a significantly shorter life than the tools they are attached to. I've gone through multiple electric toothbrushes, and what fails is never the mechanical mechanism that moves the head, for example, and it's not like I need to go for a walk while brushing my teeth (which I totally do because I can, but if it was corded, I'd be perfectly happy to stay in front of the sink). I've also similarly never really understood the purpose of making a computer mouse cordless. Under what scenario is it going to ever be so far from the computer that it couldn't just be plugged in constantly? Is it just the cool new toy factor? The supposed conspiracy of planned obsolescence? Bribes from the Duracell Bunny?

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    The big one is removing the wire in and of itself, I think. Frees up some desk space behind the mouse and under the monitor, plus there's no chance of accidentally kicking the wire if it hangs down behind the desk.

    Professional gamers use wired mice for latency's sake, though, so it seems there's a couple of downsides to going wireless.
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    When I use a mouse that has a wire, I can often feel the wire tugging as I move the mouse. It bothers me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrypticUnhlpfl View Post
    The big one is removing the wire in and of itself, I think. Frees up some desk space behind the mouse and under the monitor, plus there's no chance of accidentally kicking the wire if it hangs down behind the desk.

    Professional gamers use wired mice for latency's sake, though, so it seems there's a couple of downsides to going wireless.
    Yup, removing the wire is pretty much the entire point. With a stationary PC there are a lot of cables that get jumbled together behind it, but this is only a problem, when you need to change something in your rig. I mostly work on my laptop and lack of wire is a simple case of convenience as I have the receiver always pugged in, so I just pick the mouse, turn it on and it is ready to work. There is also a fact that cables are not exactly durable if you need to pack them up often, which was a real pain with my headphones for many years and is exactly the reason I went wireless with those as well. Mouse cables are not as thin as those for headphones, but they are still an unnecessary breakpoint. I have my wireless mouse for over 10 years and it still works. I doubt it would have been possible with a wired one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    Heck, I'd say that for most applications, corded is likely a better, longer-lasting tool, if freedom of movement is not a requirement. Batteries tend to have a significantly shorter life than the tools they are attached to. I've gone through multiple electric toothbrushes, and what fails is never the mechanical mechanism that moves the head, for example, and it's not like I need to go for a walk while brushing my teeth (which I totally do because I can, but if it was corded, I'd be perfectly happy to stay in front of the sink). I've also similarly never really understood the purpose of making a computer mouse cordless. Under what scenario is it going to ever be so far from the computer that it couldn't just be plugged in constantly? Is it just the cool new toy factor? The supposed conspiracy of planned obsolescence? Bribes from the Duracell Bunny?

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    Yep. My work also has cordless drills that I use, and aside from the brand new one that was just bought a couple months ago, those batteries don't last very long, especially when you're doing serious drilling. Just last Wednesday, I was using a drill for about four hours and had to replace the battery twice.

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    So, I think Tedd has ... ideas ... about what the mirror may have been used for, based on the way he reacts to the idea of his mother using it. Yeah, we don't need to see what kinky forms she may have taken.
    Hopefully the pattern buffer is limited so that Justin's variety of forms renders this question moot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windscion View Post
    So, I think Tedd has ... ideas ... about what the mirror may have been used for, based on the way he reacts to the idea of his mother using it. Yeah, we don't need to see what kinky forms she may have taken.
    Hopefully the pattern buffer is limited so that Justin's variety of forms renders this question moot.
    I think Tedd just doesn't want to be reminded of her mother, in general. And so isn't keen on having her reflection replaced by hers. That'd be kind of an emotional punch and should that happened, she'd probably prefer to be alone (or alone with Grace), especially since she doesn't really know Diane yet.
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    Good job, Grace. Always ignore people who want you to wear a shirt.
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    I'm more concerned with the evil seer bit. And here I thought he was just a conductor for the plot railroad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windscion View Post
    I'm more concerned with the evil seer bit. And here I thought he was just a conductor for the plot railroad.
    Well, if there are rails, someone had to put them in place to serve a specific purpose. I am actually curious about this little twist and even more so, what it might represent.

    edit: not sure if it is warranted, but it reminds me a bit of Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood situation or maybe Evangelion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windscion View Post
    I'm more concerned with the evil seer bit. And here I thought he was just a conductor for the plot railroad.
    Well, Arthur is playing the role of Theresa who is probably evil. Though, I don't know if that's an intentional comparison on Dan's part or just a coincidence. The games don't spell it out clearly (probably because it's likely not the intention of the creators and just a result of poor writing), and I don't know how familiar he is with the games' fan theories.
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    So, on that "don't think about it" page, whose reflection is that supposed to be? It kind of looks like both Grace and Nanase. The bit of inner dialog about turning into Nanase seems to point to her. And Grace has very pronounced hair bits in front of her ears that weren't in the reflection. But then Nanase also has hair bits in front of her ears that should have been visible.

    And why is it called an "inner dialog" when you're the only person involved in it? Shouldn't it be an "inner monolog?"

    Is that thing Ted's manipulating the door knob? Why is it so tiny?

    Using the latchy thing as a button is clever, but having part of the controls on the side means you can't fully utilize the magic mirror with the door closed. And all the really fun uses for a device like that demand privacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maat Mons View Post
    [1] And why is it called an "inner dialog" when you're the only person involved in it? Shouldn't it be an "inner monolog?"
    [2] having part of the controls on the side means you can't fully utilize the magic mirror with the door closed.
    [1] An inner monolog is just called "thoughts." An inner dialog is between different aspects of yourself -- e.g., conscience vs desire.
    [2] I would assume a closet door, like you might find in a bedroom? Also, the inner knob on a closet door is sometimes quite small because it is rarely used, so it is the minimum size it can be.
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