Greenhilt afterlife conundrum.

[Kish]

Vaarsuvius was focused on the means, not the end. The goal was ostensibly to reunite the Order, but at their most sane on the subject, Vaarsuvius was already looking at it as "I will accomplish the goal with MY MAGIC!" not, "I will accomplish THE GOAL with my magic!" When people who were part of the defined goal questioned the supremacy of Vaarsuvius' magic and the moral and logical viability of dealing with everything by casting a spell at it, they got sheared off in a display of "destroy the village in order to save it," because what truly mattered to Vaarsuvius was not "get the Order back together" but "show that I am and have always been right to act as nothing more than the sum of my spells, including fleeing and letting people I had agreed to help be butchered in front of me when I was out of spells, and that my spells are in fact the only thing it makes sense to be invested in."

On another note, if anything in the EU casts doubt on the obvious fact that Boba Fett is utterly evil insofar as he has a personality at all, that's another reason I'm glad I never read more of the Star Wars EU books than I did.

(Guy's such a rabid dog that Darth Vader needs to tell him not to disintegrate the person to be captured. I will never understand how anyone took "awesome Neutral-aligned badass" from that.)

[Peelee]

And as noted, V decided to abandon the Azurite fleet and Elan/Durkon to try and find enough peace and quiet to get work done. You are attributing the end state to the entire split-party arc instead of just the last act.

I have no intention of returning. Once I locate Miss Starsgine, I might feel moved to suggest a rendezvous with the two of you at a different location... but probably not.

I read zero posts on "no I don't think V meant what they said," so I don't know what your "as noted" is referring to, I'm afraid.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

I will never understand how anyone took "awesome Neutral-aligned badass" from that.

I will never understand how anyone took "badass", never mind an alignment, from the fact he followed a spaceship once, was gifted the quarry popsicle he was supposed to capture, and then got et by a giant worm after being pushed accidentally by a blinded guy.

I'm guessing he had a cool armour?

Grey Wolf

[Peelee]

I will never understand how anyone took "badass", never mind an alignment, from the fact he followed a spaceship once, was gifted the quarry popsicle he was supposed to capture, and then got et by a giant worm after being pushed accidentally by a blinded guy.

I'm guessing he had a cool armour?

Grey Wolf

Immediately finds a ship that evaded a fleet of Star Destroyers with a space wizard at the helm.

Say what you want about Fett or his methods, but he's immediately established as damned good at finding his quarry.

[Fyraltari]

I will never understand how anyone took "badass", never mind an alignment, from the fact he followed a spaceship once, was gifted the quarry popsicle he was supposed to capture, and then got et by a giant worm after being pushed accidentally by a blinded guy.

I'm guessing he had a cool armour?

Grey Wolf

He had a cool armor and his actor was imitating Clint Eastwood's Man With No Name.

[Keltest]

I will never understand how anyone took "badass", never mind an alignment, from the fact he followed a spaceship once, was gifted the quarry popsicle he was supposed to capture, and then got et by a giant worm after being pushed accidentally by a blinded guy.

I'm guessing he had a cool armour?

Grey Wolf

I believe one of the relatively early authors said "wow, this guy seems like he has a story, I bet it would be really cool to hear it!" and then they went and told that story, and it was in fact cool.

Boba was interesting grounds from an EU perspective in that he was almost completely a blank slate. He was apparently a famous bounty hunter, but he had no other established characteristics, so an author could turn him into just about anything they wanted.

[Rogar Demonblud]

More correctly:

1: get Haley and Roy's body back
2: let Durkon do his weird not-real-magic thing to bring Roy back
3: toss all remaining problems at Roy.

Like I said, V was the only one working on bringing the group together. Eventually, even V tossed that aside. The Order really is nonfunctional (as opposed to dysfunctional) without Roy.

I read zero posts on "no I don't think V meant what they said," so I don't know what your "as noted" is referring to, I'm afraid.

Alles Klar, Herr Drachen?

[Peelee]

Alles Klar, Herr Drachen?

I assumed you didn't read the link and forgot V explicitly stating that was not his intention. My bad.

So. V explicitly stated that was not his intention. Just so we're clear.

[Darth Paul]

On another note, if anything in the EU casts doubt on the obvious fact that Boba Fett is utterly evil insofar as he has a personality at all, that's another reason I'm glad I never read more of the Star Wars EU books than I did.

(Guy's such a rabid dog that Darth Vader needs to tell him not to disintegrate the person to be captured. I will never understand how anyone took "awesome Neutral-aligned badass" from that.)

I'm proud, in a weird way, to have never read anything in the EU.

Bounty hunters have always had a big tradition of bringing their quarry in "dead or alive", and "dead" is a lot easier when the quarry resists arrest. It's not necessarily evil to shoot someone who shoots at you.

[Peelee]

I'm proud, in a weird way, to have never read anything in the EU.

What, really? I always thought you were named after the actual Darth Paul.

[Jasdoif]

I'm guessing he had a cool armour?

And a jetpack! And an arm-mounted Jedi-restraining rope! And a wrist-mounted blaster! He was basically Star Wars' Inspector Gadget, which means he was also basically Star Wars' Maxwell Smart! Bonus sentence with exclamation point!

[Peelee]

And a jetpack! And an arm-mounted Jedi-restraining rope! And a wrist-mounted blaster! He was basically Star Wars' Inspector Gadget, which means he was also basically Star Wars' Maxwell Smart! Bonus sentence with exclamation point!

You're forgetting the cape! How could you forget the cape!?

[Darth Paul]

What, really? I always thought you were named after the actual Darth Paul.

The first time I had to choose an email address/name was summer 1999. My name is actually Paul. Guess what film was in the theaters at the time.

[Wizard_Lizard]

Noooooo!
This tgread finally got out of the Miko faze.
And now we are discussing star wars.

[Vinyadan]

From what I remember, Boba Fett was actually created for an animated segment of a 1978 Christmas Special :



He was added to the movies after his toys sold so well.

EDIT: Upon further research, the segment was made with the help of a video illustrating Fett's armour, which was already being developed. https://youtu.be/-yF5HFFcv8E

[Wizard_Lizard]

I read zero posts on "no I don't think V meant what they said," so I don't know what your "as noted" is referring to, I'm afraid.

Well he can't ressurect roy without durkon.

[Peelee]

Well he can't ressurect roy without durkon.

Sure he can, if he can find another 13th level cleric. Difficult, but not insurmountable.

[Wizard_Lizard]

Sure he can, if he can find another 13th level cleric. Difficult, but not insurmountable.

but clerics of that level are very rare.
I am sure I read that somewhere on te frum.

[The Pilgrim]

I'm guessing he had a cool armour?

"Stuff that looks cool and makes for highly marketeable merchandise" was actually the whole foundation of the success of the Star Wars franchise.

[Peelee]

but clerics of that level are very rare.
I am sure I read that somewhere on te frum.

Literally in the post you quoted, for one.

And that's ignoring that "very rare" is relative. Interesting how all the characters with magical powers were separated from the corpse, isn't it?

[understatement]

In the strip here Roy mentions about the rarity of powerful clerics, and here Haley mentions there's pretty much none that can do ninths, save for one.

[Peelee]

In the strip here Roy mentions about the rarity of powerful clerics

Haley, to be fair, did practically zero searching.

[Fyraltari]

but clerics of that level are very rare.
I am sure I read that somewhere on te frum.

Bah, V will simply devise Vaarsuvius' advanced Cleric Locator to go find the nearest one, there is no problem than enough MAGIC! can't solve, after all. Besides, how hard can it be to Resurrect someone? It's not like it's actual magic.

[Darth Paul]

"Stuff that looks cool and makes for highly marketable merchandise" was actually the whole foundation of the success of the Star Wars franchise.

One highly original film with revolutionary effects, followed 3 years later by another with brilliant writing and directing and a cliffhanger ending, were the foundation of the franchise's success. Then marketing made up for the weaknesses in the next four (or five, or six, or seven; YMMV) films.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

One highly original film

Alternatively: one great existing Japanese film re-filmed for the American market with Western actors.

Note that I'm not throwing stones at doing this. For one thing, that's like half the Tarantino's films right there, and they are still great. For another, the Japanese did the same in the other direction, and that also turned out films that improved on the originals in many ways.

The whole cycle of western->eastern->western retelling on the same basic story beats (see Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven) but improved in every iteration is the greatest argument against copyright restrictions longer than a handful of years.

Grey Wolf

[Wizard_Lizard]

Bah, V will simply devise Vaarsuvius' advanced Cleric Locator to go find the nearest one, there is no problem than enough MAGIC! can't solve, after all. Besides, how hard can it be to Resurrect someone? It's not like it's actual magic.

Or Vaarsuvius could learn ressurection.
BECAUSE WHO NEEDS RULES WHEN YOU HAVE MAGIC!!!

Hey fyraltari want to create a vaarsuvius fanclub.

[Peelee]

For one thing, that's like half the Tarantino's films right there, and they are still great.

YMMdefinitelyV. Can't stand Tarantino films.

[understatement]

Yeah, but which is more kickass: you altering the universe, or the universe altering for you?

...is a thing I totally overheard someone say.

[Caerulea]

Yeah, but which is more kickass: you altering the universe, or the universe altering for you?

With enough power they are one and the same. Reality exists because you believe it does.
(Can I be the high familiar of the Vaarsuvius fanclub?)

—Caerulea

[woweedd]

YMMdefinitelyV. Can't stand Tarantino films.

You are a fraud and a bad role-model for our children.