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    Quickly, as I don't have much time to post this weekend: I say we go to that silversmith next, finish our grocery list. Then we can go sewer crashing and try to talk to some of those sea hags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingTheShade View Post
    Quickly, as I don't have much time to post this weekend: I say we go to that silversmith next, finish our grocery list. Then we can go sewer crashing and try to talk to some of those sea hags.
    Sounds good to me.
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    I just feel like we outsourced the wrong task. We could have sent any errand boy to buy flowers and pearls - but we elected to do that ourselves, and let a priest we don't trust do our information gathering.

    Eh. It's propably fine =)

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    Our 3-man band is missing the scholarly archetype, I believe. This is what happens. Apparently, our best information gathering technique does consist of shaking it off people.

    Edit:
    "without expectation of recompense"
    Now, is that so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iTookUrNick View Post
    Our 3-man band is missing the scholarly archetype, I believe. This is what happens. Apparently, our best information gathering technique does consist of shaking it off people.
    Ever the best way of asking any question.

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    Now, is that so?
    Yes - that is so. At heart, Borgrim is kinda-sorta a gentleman. Raised proper, he was. He knows that - even from beyond the grave - if he treats women disrespecfully, his mom will come and slap him silly.

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    Borgrim's Mom
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    Skills Athletics +11, Perception +11, Stealth +11
    Senses Even from beyond the grave, she can see Borgrim not behaving proper
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    B!itch slap Works only on men who've behaved poorly with women. Borgrim's Mom slaps them, granting 2d8+5 damage. In addition, any such man feels ashamed for the rest of the campaign, suffering disadvantage on all interactions with the opposite gender.
    Greater planeshift Borgrim's Mom can instantly travel to any location on any plan when and where there's some guy behaving ungentlemany.
    'Jernau Gurgeh', the machine said, making a sighing noise, 'a guilty system recognises no innocents. The very way you think places you amongst its enemies. Prevarication will be more difficult than you might imagine; neutrality is probably impossible. You cannot choose not to have the politics you do; they are not some separate set of entities somehow detachable from the rest of your being; they are a function of your existence. I know that and they know that; you had better accept it.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingTheShade View Post
    Borgrim's Mom
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    Senses Even from beyond the grave, she can see Borgrim not behaving proper
    CR 20

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    B!itch slap Works only on men who've behaved poorly with women. Borgrim's Mom slaps them, granting 2d8+5 damage. In addition, any such man feels ashamed for the rest of the campaign, suffering disadvantage on all interactions with the opposite gender.
    Greater planeshift Borgrim's Mom can instantly travel to any location on any plan when and where there's some guy behaving ungentlemany.
    Sounds about right. Famous quotes include:

    I raised you better than that, young man! and not in my house you don't! and no son of mine does anything like that - do I make myself clear?!

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    Baths are highly suspicious. My mother never believed so when I was a kid, neither does she now I'm an adult.

    Perfume is pure fragrant Evil.
    'Jernau Gurgeh', the machine said, making a sighing noise, 'a guilty system recognises no innocents. The very way you think places you amongst its enemies. Prevarication will be more difficult than you might imagine; neutrality is probably impossible. You cannot choose not to have the politics you do; they are not some separate set of entities somehow detachable from the rest of your being; they are a function of your existence. I know that and they know that; you had better accept it.'

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    I've updated the second post in this thread with a list of the potions and scrolls you've found so far. If no-one has anything much to add to the IC thread I'll move things along in a little bit.
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    Apologies for the delay. I'll have a post up in the morning.
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    Initiative - (1d20+9)[23]... does Rosa act even before Enfys... ?

    EDIT: I made an modifiable map.

    I moved Borgrim to stand right south of Enfys, but I may have misinterpreted Keen's intentions.
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    'Jernau Gurgeh', the machine said, making a sighing noise, 'a guilty system recognises no innocents. The very way you think places you amongst its enemies. Prevarication will be more difficult than you might imagine; neutrality is probably impossible. You cannot choose not to have the politics you do; they are not some separate set of entities somehow detachable from the rest of your being; they are a function of your existence. I know that and they know that; you had better accept it.'

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    I forgot initiative - like a bloody amateur: (1d20+2)[8]

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingTheShade View Post
    [roll0]... does Rosa act even before Enfys... ?

    EDIT: I made an modifiable map.

    I moved Borgrim to stand right south of Enfys, but I may have misinterpreted Keen's intentions.
    Thanks for the map. I'll link it in my next IC post. I was thinking I probably should have made one in google docs, but didn't have time last night.

    For the sake of convenience Rosa acts just after Enfys for this first round, due to Enfys' familiarity with the sewers in general.

    EDIT:
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    {IC}that's an actual roll of 1. How thoroughly disappointing. Can I turn on Reckless Attack retroactively? I promise I meant to, only I forgot I had it =)
    Ya that's fine. I'll roll a second attack for Borgim and include it in the next IC post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingTheShade View Post
    ... but I may have misinterpreted Keen's intentions.
    Oh btw - no, that's exactly where he intends to be =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wogwoggle View Post
    Thanks for the map. I'll link it in my next IC post. I was thinking I probably should have made one in google docs, but didn't have time last night.
    I'm literally happy that I can help with our game's logistics. It's the same as Nick helping with the map. I've done a few of those maps already, I'm probably faster than others with that task.

    Moreover, I know It's sometimes hard to find the right time to post: You need both the free time and the mental availability, and GM posts are a lot longer than player posts to write. I had iddle time on my hands the other day, so it didn't cost me much more effort than my own post.
    'Jernau Gurgeh', the machine said, making a sighing noise, 'a guilty system recognises no innocents. The very way you think places you amongst its enemies. Prevarication will be more difficult than you might imagine; neutrality is probably impossible. You cannot choose not to have the politics you do; they are not some separate set of entities somehow detachable from the rest of your being; they are a function of your existence. I know that and they know that; you had better accept it.'

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    Rosa searches the room, (d20+5)[25]
    'Jernau Gurgeh', the machine said, making a sighing noise, 'a guilty system recognises no innocents. The very way you think places you amongst its enemies. Prevarication will be more difficult than you might imagine; neutrality is probably impossible. You cannot choose not to have the politics you do; they are not some separate set of entities somehow detachable from the rest of your being; they are a function of your existence. I know that and they know that; you had better accept it.'

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    I won't be able to get a post up until later tomorrow.
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    Heh, this is getting interesting. We had the bad cop, the good cop... and now the very angry cop.

    Each post (both players' and GM's) changed my opinion of how to proceed.

    I'm trying to find reasons not to turn this into a fight, but none convince me, neither IC nor OOC. The main OOC reason is that fights are fun. The main IC reason is that Gloy is so very clearly an ******* and instead of trying to calm things down, she keeps gloating, acting dignified, and (hopefully) overplaying her hand.

    Time to rumble! I'm writing an IC post right now.
    'Jernau Gurgeh', the machine said, making a sighing noise, 'a guilty system recognises no innocents. The very way you think places you amongst its enemies. Prevarication will be more difficult than you might imagine; neutrality is probably impossible. You cannot choose not to have the politics you do; they are not some separate set of entities somehow detachable from the rest of your being; they are a function of your existence. I know that and they know that; you had better accept it.'

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    I am itching to try a (possibly) harder fight myself. Also, I do not know if there are spells inside that grimoire that we might need/want.

    However, OOC I think that having a clearly well-informed Hag as a contact warrants evaluating as a benefit.
    IC Ben believe that the Hag is acting according to its nature, and sees no reason for concern.

    That said, if we're fighting, let's get it on.
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    Ironically, I seem to be the only one wishing for a peaceful resolution =D

    But ... Borgrim doesn't care either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaptin Keen View Post
    Ironically, I seem to be the only one wishing for a peaceful resolution =D

    But ... Borgrim doesn't care either way.
    What, no! I was saying that it has some real benefits and that we should weigh our options before making our final decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iTookUrNick View Post
    I am itching to try a (possibly) harder fight myself. Also, I do not know if there are spells inside that grimoire that we might need/want.

    However, OOC I think that having a clearly well-informed Hag as a contact warrants evaluating as a benefit.
    IC Ben believe that the Hag is acting according to its nature, and sees no reason for concern.

    That said, if we're fighting, let's get it on.
    I probably didn't draw specific attention to it, or glossed things over when you first found the grimoire. There are definitely a few spells that Rosa could get from the spellbook if she had some quiet time to study it (and higher level spells would be available if she decides to continue advancing as a wizard). Nicodemus let her keep it for that very reason; he assumed that Rosa could get a little use from it.

    And now, I figure I'll make a couple of ominous rolls here, and see what the dice have to say about what happens next

    OminousRoll1 - (1d20+3)[5] (vs. Borgrim's Intimidate)
    OminousRoll2 - (1d20+1)[20] (vs. Rosa's Dex: Sleight of hand)

    EDIT: Ooo, now that's interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iTookUrNick View Post
    I am itching to try a (possibly) harder fight myself. Also, I do not know if there are spells inside that grimoire that we might need/want.
    Neither does Rosa. What I can say is that the more it goes and the more Rosa is seeing Nicodemus as a replacement for a missing father figure. She stole the grimoire before knowing Nicodemus, but surrendering it know seems impossible to her.

    However, OOC I think that having a clearly well-informed Hag as a contact warrants evaluating as a benefit.
    Yes, I see that now. Hadn't thought of it that way. I would balance it with the fact that she now knows a lot about the party, and may still decide to sell us out to opposing forces. Actually, she'd need to have a high fear of the party not to do exactly that once we're far enough.
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    I'd like to know the effect of Rosa's spell before committing to a course of action.

    Also, we can't just let her go NOW. We tried to kill her (at least in her eyes, but I can see how she thought that).
    What do you propose we do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iTookUrNick View Post
    Also, we can't just let her go NOW. We tried to kill her (at least in her eyes, but I can see how she thought that).
    No no, Rosa did try to kill her. Rosa just didn't get the occasion to enact the actual killing part of her move. It was still attempted murder.

    What do you propose we do?
    Well, I was hypocritically relying on Benedict to shoot first and ask questions later. We already know Benedict has no issue shooting a fleeing enemy. Rosa will follow suite if Ben goes that way.
    'Jernau Gurgeh', the machine said, making a sighing noise, 'a guilty system recognises no innocents. The very way you think places you amongst its enemies. Prevarication will be more difficult than you might imagine; neutrality is probably impossible. You cannot choose not to have the politics you do; they are not some separate set of entities somehow detachable from the rest of your being; they are a function of your existence. I know that and they know that; you had better accept it.'

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    Jeez - when the barbarian needs to be the adult of the group, you know you're in for a rough ride =D

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    Quote Originally Posted by iTookUrNick View Post
    I'd like to know the effect of Rosa's spell before committing to a course of action.
    Noted. I'll have a post up in a little bit. I'll wait for Benedict to act before Lady Gloy takes her full turn.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaptin Keen View Post
    What I said was 'mutters' - it's more of an under his breath kinda thing, not a whisper and not a shout, just ... muttering to himself, but easily loud enough for Gloy to hear. Not that it makes any real difference.
    I obviously misread your post. Sorry about that. I agree that it wouldn't have changed how Lady Gloy reacted.

    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingTheShade View Post
    Grease, DC 13. Rosa's stance is not overly aggressive, neither is her tone murderous anymore.
    Noted as well.
    Here is the dex save:
    LadyGloyDexteritySave - (1d20+1)[15]

    Edit: So Lady Gloy saves against falling prone, but the grease is still difficult terrain for her. If Benedict still wants to act before Lady Gloy takes her turn, he can.
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    DM, I think you do a fine job characterizing Gloy. That last IC post elicited a chuckle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaptin Keen View Post
    Jeez - when the barbarian needs to be the adult of the group, you know you're in for a rough ride =D
    You think you're the first to notice that? Re-read that
    'Jernau Gurgeh', the machine said, making a sighing noise, 'a guilty system recognises no innocents. The very way you think places you amongst its enemies. Prevarication will be more difficult than you might imagine; neutrality is probably impossible. You cannot choose not to have the politics you do; they are not some separate set of entities somehow detachable from the rest of your being; they are a function of your existence. I know that and they know that; you had better accept it.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingTheShade View Post
    You think you're the first to notice that? Re-read that
    Well, yes - but .. are we really counting all the voices in Rose's head? They'll say any old thing =D

    Quote Originally Posted by Wogwoggle View Post
    Edit: So Lady Gloy saves against falling prone, but the grease is still difficult terrain for her. If Benedict still wants to act before Lady Gloy takes her turn, he can.
    Oh. Um, will Borgrim need to save too? How inconvenient.

    Dex save: (1d20+2)[7]

    See? That's just embarassing. Especially after all that talking - then he slips and falls on his arse like a clown! =D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaptin Keen View Post
    Well, yes - but .. are we really counting all the voices in Rose's head? They'll say any old thing =D
    Well, you're not wrong on that account.
    From now on, maybe-madness, maybe-curse caused voices heard exclusively in one PC head do not count anymore : D

    Oh. Um, will Borgrim need to save too? How inconvenient.

    Dex save: [roll0]

    See? That's just embarassing. Especially after all that talking - then he slips and falls on his arse like a clown! =D
    Borgrim doesn't necessarily need to save. I didn't detail it to save time and effort (and also to avoid nitpicking and because it felt somewhat obvious), but most of the grease's zone should be in front of Gloy, i.e. the direction she tried fleeing towards.

    If Borgrim arrives behind her (which seems logical, since Gloy was running away from the party) then he might reach hand-to-hand distance, while standing just outside the grease thing.
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    'Jernau Gurgeh', the machine said, making a sighing noise, 'a guilty system recognises no innocents. The very way you think places you amongst its enemies. Prevarication will be more difficult than you might imagine; neutrality is probably impossible. You cannot choose not to have the politics you do; they are not some separate set of entities somehow detachable from the rest of your being; they are a function of your existence. I know that and they know that; you had better accept it.'

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