Baldur's Gate 3...confirmed!

[Cespenar]

Eh, I don't know if I'm ready for a D&D Tim Burton movie. But a Guillermo Del Toro Planescape flick would be interesting.

[GloatingSwine]

Disney presents Icewind Dale! Now with memorable songs like "All We Wanna Do is Eat Your Brains" and a cast of colorful soul-stealing undead horrors sure to give your kids nightmares.

Directed by Tim Burton

Worth it if it means we're in the timeline where Disney licensed a Jonathan Coulton song.

[Cikomyr]

Eh, I don't know if I'm ready for a D&D Tim Burton movie. But a Guillermo Del Toro Planescape flick would be interesting.

Him or Taika Waititi

DnD is best when it has an acceptable mix of taking itself seriously and accepting degrees of goofiness.

Edit: also the guys who did Lego Movie. They really managed to capture the essence of playing the game while making a good story out of playing the game.

[ShneekeyTheLost]

...They became minor cult movies with some of the best comicbook villain portrayals in cinema, great soundtracks and an overall interesting take on a franchise associated with pure camp in the mainstream until the movie franchise was given to completely different directors?

You and I remember Budapest very differently... I suppose we shall have to agree to very strongly disagree on that topic.

[Kish]

Yeah, I'm with Winthur. Tim Burton's Batman and Batman Returns were the two best Batman movies so far, and I have no anticipation of them being unseated for that title anytime soon.

Batman Forever was as awful as it was in part because it was allegedly in the same continuity as those two and flushed everything good they had built up down the toilet.

[Cikomyr]

Yeah, I'm with Winthur. Tim Burton's Batman and Batman Returns were the two best Batman movies so far, and I have no anticipation of them being unseated for that title anytime soon.

A lot of people would claim Dark Knight beat them.

[LibraryOgre]

Him or Taika Waititi

DnD is best when it has an acceptable mix of taking itself seriously and accepting degrees of goofiness.

Edit: also the guys who did Lego Movie. They really managed to capture the essence of playing the game while making a good story out of playing the game.

I could also live with Stephen Sommers.

[Winthur]

You and I remember Budapest very differently...

I have no idea what Budapest means in this context, so I'm going to take this leisurely opportunity to promote this old video of mine where I break the laws of physics in a video game level that happens to take place in Budapest. It seems about as a propos as anything else. For additional context, none of what I had said about the Burton Batmans isn't true, as the movies did meet critical acclaim, they did supercede the wacky Batman TV show in the minds of the non-comicbook reading public, Danny Elfman did win a Grammy for the soundtrack, and Burton had little to do with Forever and "...and Robin".

Also, my mom loves the first movie and Jack's Joker. On top of that, prominent critic and culture aficionado, Jason Gastrow, put that particular Joker on his prestigious list of Top 10 Jokers as number #2. Perhaps you're the odd one out in light of this overpowering evidence.

[Cikomyr]

I could also live with Stephen Sommers.

Now that I think about it, Phil Lord and Christopher Miller (Lego Movie guys) would be best to take up a dnd movie.

Dungeons and Dragon movies have always been subpar because they end up being somewhat generic fantasy adventure.

A good D&D movie would do well by somehow leaning on the 4th wall. Akin to Order of the Sticks or even Gamers 2.

[Winthur]

For any D&D movie / TV project, I'd nominate John Rogers because he's not only a fairly accomplished TV showrunner (Leverage and The Librarians are fun), but he also wrote Fell's Five, which is one of the funniest, bantsiest adaptations of D&D into any medium.

[Kish]

A lot of people would claim Dark Knight beat them.

Let them come here and say it, then.

And I'll reply, "You're wrong."

[Cikomyr]

Let them come here and say it, then.

And I'll reply, "You're wrong."

Dark Knight was better than both of these films.

Probably had less influence on the cultural moment, but just a better overall plot, action and acting.

[Eldonauran]

Dark Knight was better than both of these films.

Probably had less influence on the cultural moment, but just a better overall plot, action and acting.

I'm going to side with Kish on that matter. The only thing the Dark Knight has on those two movies was the Joker. He alone made that movie amazing.

[LibraryOgre]

I'm going to side with Kish on that matter. The only thing the Dark Knight has on those two movies was the Joker. He alone made that movie amazing.

He just didn't rub my rhubarb, I suppose.

The Mod Wonder: And "Which movie Batman is the best Batman" is a bit off topic... and currently ignores Adam West, so is invalid, anyway.

[Spore]

He just didn't rub my rhubarb, I suppose.

With my masterful ability to bridge topics, I take this equally masterful image and ask you:

Do you assume the game has romances? If so, do you think it's more the Dragon Age/ ME sexual type or a more involved BG 2 involved style?

[Narkis]

With my masterful ability to bridge topics, I take this equally masterful image and ask you:

Do you assume the game has romances? If so, do you think it's more the Dragon Age/ ME sexual type or a more involved BG 2 involved style?

Romances are a staple of the genre nowadays, so I'd assume they'll be included. I see the Dragon Age and Mass Effect romances as an evolution of those in Baldur's Gate 2, so I don't really understand the question.

[LibraryOgre]

With my masterful ability to bridge topics, I take this equally masterful image and ask you:

Do you assume the game has romances? If so, do you think it's more the Dragon Age/ ME sexual type or a more involved BG 2 involved style?

They do tend to be a staple of the genre these days... I think Fallout 3 is the last game I can think of that didn't have them, assuming they were heavy into role-playing.

[ShneekeyTheLost]

They do tend to be a staple of the genre these days... I think Fallout 3 is the last game I can think of that didn't have them, assuming they were heavy into role-playing.

New Vegas didn't really have romantic relationships either, although at least each companion had their own side-quest and could develop non-romantic friendly relationships with all of them.

The latest Pathfinder game which is set in 3.P (if the name didn't give it away) and thus D&D related, didn't have any actual romance either, although again you could develop your strictly platonic relationships with your various support cast.

Considering the asexual nature of Illithid reproduction, and that they're going to be a substantial part of the plot if the teaser is any indication, I don't really see much in the way of romance going on. But I would expect a great deal of team-building and platonic camaraderie. Which, yanno, would be nice to have a dude and a chick having a platonic but deep friendship in a game where either they weren't compatible due to gender preference from either party or weren't so focused on the violence that it effectively WAS a (very twisted) romantic, just not erotic, relationship.

[Narkis]

The latest Pathfinder game which is set in 3.P (if the name didn't give it away) and thus D&D related, didn't have any actual romance either, although again you could develop your strictly platonic relationships with your various support cast.

Pathfinder: Kingmaker absolutely has romances, including NPCs who pursue you instead of the other way around as is usual.

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Pathfinder: Kingmaker absolutely has romances, including NPCs who pursue you instead of the other way around as is usual.

I stand corrected, then.

[JadedDM]

I have no idea what Budapest means in this context...

It's a reference to Avengers. The context is, Black Widow and Hawkeye are fighting for their lives against an alien invasion, and BW says "Just like Budapest all over again!" in which Hawkeye responds, "You and I remember Budapest very differently."

Anyway, is anyone else tempted to replay the old BG games? I have to admit I am, despite the fact I don't really have time right now.

[Winthur]

It's a reference to Avengers. The context is, Black Widow and Hawkeye are fighting for their lives against an alien invasion, and BW says "Just like Budapest all over again!" in which Hawkeye responds, "You and I remember Budapest very differently."

Ah, that makes sense. To paraphrase Cap, I did not understand that reference.

Anyway, is anyone else tempted to replay the old BG games? I have to admit I am, despite the fact I don't really have time right now.

Considering the longevity through mods - all the time. Now moreso, although the content of my posts on the subject betrays an addiction.

[Morty]

I have many fond memories of Baldur's Gate, but I prefer to let them stay memories now. My tolerance for AD&D 2E and any modifications thereof has dropped sharply over the years. I'll just wait for BG3 to come out and see what it's like.

[Aotrs Commander]

Pathfinder: Kingmaker absolutely has romances, including NPCs who pursue you instead of the other way around as is usual.

Ooh, possibly interesting... Not having played it yet (I'm so damn patient, I waited until PoE2 5.0 was out (and I kickstarted that game) and I'm still not through that yet, so I've not started PF:K yet.

Kind of disappointed with PoE 2 in that respect, since it was little more than "do Xoti's quest (which is REALLy eays to do early), sex happens, never brought up again except shutting down Maia¹ and Tekehu." Unless it gets brought up later in the endgame or something. I only care about the romances as an aspect of character interaction (the idea being that it SHOULD instigate more interaction with said character, though sadly, this isn't often the case), so it abruptly stopping like the banging was the reward irritates me.

For all the flack ME 1 through 3 gets for the way it handles it, I was satisfied with the way it panned out with Liara (and the desperation-fling with Garrus in 2 when Liara distanced herself before the suicide mission, which Garrus was a total bro about in 3²). But of course, you kind of need the same set of characters following on through three games to get that.



Dang it, Mark Hall, I was just gonna bring up Return of the Caped Crusaders and Batman Vrs Two-Face!



¹Apparently on both me and Xoti - if I'd have known that, I might have left 'em alone just out of the sheer novelty of watching two companions have a romance.

²Garrus gets the prize of "best companion in any RPG."

[Keltest]

Ooh, possibly interesting... Not having played it yet (I'm so damn patient, I waited until PoE2 5.0 was out (and I kickstarted that game) and I'm still not through that yet, so I've not started PF:K yet.

Kind of disappointed with PoE 2 in that respect, since it was little more than "do Xoti's quest (which is REALLy eays to do early), sex happens, never brought up again except shutting down Maia¹ and Tekehu." Unless it gets brought up later in the endgame or something. I only care about the romances as an aspect of character interaction (the idea being that it SHOULD instigate more interaction with said character, though sadly, this isn't often the case), so it abruptly stopping like the banging was the reward irritates me.

For all the flack ME 1 through 3 gets for the way it handles it, I was satisfied with the way it panned out with Liara (and the desperation-fling with Garrus in 2 when Liara distanced herself before the suicide mission, which Garrus was a total bro about in 3²). But of course, you kind of need the same set of characters following on through three games to get that.



Dang it, Mark Hall, I was just gonna bring up Return of the Caped Crusaders and Batman Vrs Two-Face!



¹Apparently on both me and Xoti - if I'd have known that, I might have left 'em alone just out of the sheer novelty of watching two companions have a romance.

²Garrus gets the prize of "best companion in any RPG."

Xoti can try for a romance with Eder too, but its a little bit difficult because Eder is uncomfortable with romance period, and thus is prone to accidentally offend Xoti.

[LibraryOgre]

Anyway, is anyone else tempted to replay the old BG games? I have to admit I am, despite the fact I don't really have time right now.

I've been toying with it. But I don't know if I'm able to play anything but a Bard, and I've already beaten it as a bard.

[Eldonauran]

Anyway, is anyone else tempted to replay the old BG games? I have to admit I am, despite the fact I don't really have time right now.

Tempted to ... replay? Who ever stopped?

*he says as he glances at his iPad which has the enhanced editions and his PC, too*

[Kane0]

A rebel illithid companion could make a lot of sense if its an alhoon.

[Avaris]

Considering the asexual nature of Illithid reproduction, and that they're going to be a substantial part of the plot if the teaser is any indication, I don't really see much in the way of romance going on. But I would expect a great deal of team-building and platonic camaraderie. Which, yanno, would be nice to have a dude and a chick having a platonic but deep friendship in a game where either they weren't compatible due to gender preference from either party or weren't so focused on the violence that it effectively WAS a (very twisted) romantic, just not erotic, relationship.

They’re almost certainly going to be the villains though, so the illithid approach to reproduction has little bearing on what the PC and their companions get up to. Though I agree that deep platonic relationships would be a nice development.

What I really want from any relationship features in an rpg is the ability to develop deep relationships with each companion. Some will be romantic, some will be platonic, but all should be equally fleshed out, and I’d much prefer there to not be a default conflict of ‘choose between them’, unless a need for an exclusive relationship is inherent to the companion or chosen by the player.

[Cespenar]

²Garrus gets the prize of "best companion in any RPG."

Oh come on, how come anyone can surpass the one and only Anomen?