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2019-09-03, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XV: I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS! I Told You This Thread Was Weird
That was certainly the intent. However, when and if it was the case seems to always be arguable based on what power level was being played. Between up to +5 for weapon, gauntlets of ogre power or girdle of giant strength (or even just a good 18/percentile strength score), +3 for double specialization (if 1st edition with Unearthed Arcana), and maybe a +1 or two from somewhere else, armor class was never a sure thing.
On the other hand, that incarnation of Lolth was in a mid-level adventure, and one which absolutely chewed you up (given how deadly drow were in 1e), so you probably were limping into that fight with not a lot left in the gas tank. Regardless, it does show off the differences that 66 HP looks like to a modern gamer (paltry) to what it looked like BITD (a challenge, if not the worst anyone had ever seen).
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2019-09-03, 04:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XV: I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS! I Told You This Thread Was Weird
Fireball
Fireball
Lightning Bolt
Everything that doesn't require to beat AC. And even high quality fighters could hit at least half the time with the right bonuses to hit, magical weaponries, etc..
I mean, she looks like a boss challenge for a level.. 11-13 party? À level 20 party would walk over Lolth.
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2019-09-03, 05:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XV: I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS! I Told You This Thread Was Weird
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2019-09-03, 08:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XV: I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS! I Told You This Thread Was Weird
Adding some more perspective, im going to translate this into 3.5 terms for easy understanding. Level scaling in AD&D 1.0 stopped around 10 ish for most classes, at which point they just accumulated a couple more HP per level. It varied a bit, but a level 20 character for that edition would be the equivalent of about a level 30-40 character in 3.5
Also, she has 70% magic resistance.Last edited by Keltest; 2019-09-03 at 08:27 PM.
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2019-09-03, 09:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-03, 10:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2019-09-04, 07:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XV: I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS! I Told You This Thread Was Weird
Petty revenge plot is super-sitcommy, and I kinda like the return to wacky hijinks trend we seem to be headed down.
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2019-09-04, 09:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XV: I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS! I Told You This Thread Was Weird
FWIW weren't most classes not really getting much more than HP after level 10, with wizard being basically the only exception? And more than a few classes that had things to gain beyond 10th had a "we can only have so many people above level 10 so if you wanna level up you're gonna need to challenge the title holder to a lethal duel" thing going on? I'm sure a truly epic wizard could give Lolth what for if he could get past the magic resistance enough, but the idea of "oh I'm just gonna get a handful of high-level fighters" is like...what? No you're not. There's not that many fighters of that caliber in 1000 miles of each other anywhere on the planet, unless you've got an epic quest to attract them like flies you get like 1 max.
And that's just to defeat what looks like an Aspect Of Lolth; if the XP entry is any indication, a tougher version is her "attempting to destroy the world as we know it" form.
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2019-09-04, 10:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XV: I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS! I Told You This Thread Was Weird
Wizards are no exception. They get 1hp/level after name level. Fighters get 3hp/level. Everyone plateaus where HP are concerned.
And more than a few classes that had things to gain beyond 10th had a "we can only have so many people above level 10 so if you wanna level up you're gonna need to challenge the title holder to a lethal duel" thing going on?
I'm sure a truly epic wizard could give Lolth what for if he could get past the magic resistance enough, but the idea of "oh I'm just gonna get a handful of high-level fighters" is like...what? No you're not. There's not that many fighters of that caliber in 1000 miles of each other anywhere on the planet, unless you've got an epic quest to attract them like flies you get like 1 max.
And that's just to defeat what looks like an Aspect Of Lolth; if the XP entry is any indication, a tougher version is her "attempting to destroy
the world as we know it" form.
Is this really important enough that we need to derail the Questionable Content Webcomic thread over, given that 51-90% of this site is RPG-dedicated?
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2019-09-04, 10:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-04, 11:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XV: I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS! I Told You This Thread Was Weird
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2019-09-04, 07:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-05, 04:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XV: I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS! I Told You This Thread Was Weird
Never seen anyone react to coffee like that...
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2019-09-05, 05:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XV: I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS! I Told You This Thread Was Weird
A personal anecdote: I almost never drank coffee in my teens, from about 13 to 23 or so, until one day I just really, really felt like a cappuccino; That night I couldn't sleep, due to being so wired that I was having hallucinations of phantom limbs.
So, y'know. Caffeine does weird things to people who aren't used to it. Probably doesn't help that Sam is pretty hyperactive at the best of times.Last edited by Wraith; 2019-09-05 at 05:40 AM.
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2019-09-05, 06:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Its a fairly standard trope of how to display being hypercaffinated. You see it in girl genius when agatha had her first cup of coffee as well. I treat it as a comic/cartoon logic like the banana peel. Nobody does a full backflip after stepping on a banana peel and yet every time in fiction someone steps on one they take ballistic flight.
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2019-09-05, 08:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XV: I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS! I Told You This Thread Was Weird
I am Canadian. I really like Tim Horton's dark roast blend.
One day, I went to the Tim right around the corner to get a large coffee, and they tell me there none ready at the moment. I look, an I see something pouring, so I told them I'll happily wait until it's ready.
Well, that one was the decaf. No worry, I'll just wait until they start the new one. The girl who served me at the counter felt bad for me, and when she started to brew the Dark Roast blend, she put my cup directly under the machine so I wouldn't have to wait the entire brewing process.
The result was the purest, most concentrated cup of caffeine I've ever drank. I kid you know, I was shaking a little bit in my seat. I couldn't focus on one thing for long, and i felt like being an ADHD kid.
I crashed after about an hour later.
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2019-09-05, 10:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XV: I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS! I Told You This Thread Was Weird
I'm hypersensitive to caffeine - a single cup of coffee will have me start twitching and then having heart palpitations and panic attacks.
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2019-09-05, 10:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XV: I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS! I Told You This Thread Was Weird
It is one thing to suspend your disbelief. It is another thing entirely to hang it by the neck until dead.
Verisimilitude -- n, the appearance or semblance of truth, likelihood, or probability.
The concern is not realism in speculative fiction, but rather the sense that a setting or story could be real, fostered by internal consistency and coherence.
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2019-09-06, 02:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XV: I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS! I Told You This Thread Was Weird
I reacted that way when I First drank coffee. Not literally shaking, but my ADD flared up massively. I couldn't concentrate on anything, I was constantly looking around, couldn't sit still, had to walk around. Just totally restless.
Now I'm barely functional without coffee, and get massive pounding headaches and nausea if I go 24 hours without.Resident Vancian Apologist
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2019-09-06, 03:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Now, I have a strong urge to post that Amateurs meme in response to these Tim Hortons & Co coffee references :D
I'm from the Balkans and coffee here is somewhat of a religion, where it is made from freshly ground beans with a somewhat strict preparation process in a special pot. Now, that is STRONG coffee.
I have tried the McD coffee, Starbucks coffee and several other fast food brand coffee's over the years and they all seem a bit watered down compared to the real thing.
If the one from Tim Horton's gives you the shakes, the real stuff would probably put you in hospital then.. XD
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2019-09-06, 03:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Hmm, maybe there is a pot/kettle colouration issue here with bedside manner...
I hate coffee, support tea, the superior beverage.Last edited by Evil DM Mark3; 2019-09-06 at 03:54 AM.
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2019-09-06, 04:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XV: I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS! I Told You This Thread Was Weird
Oh, that wasn't fastfood coffee for me. That was from our lab coffee machine.
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2019-09-06, 06:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-06, 09:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Okay, forget dragging D&D into the discussion despite three quarters of the rest of the site is dedicated to that purpose, now this is officially the most nerd-on-the-internet thing that could be happening. What's next, a ten page argument over who eats the spicier chili peppers?
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2019-09-06, 12:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-12, 03:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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"I'm a teen and I'm mature!"
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2019-09-12, 03:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-12, 05:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XV: I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS! I Told You This Thread Was Weird
Admitting that you are unable to refrain from giggling at butts is not *much* maturity, to be fair. Still sounds like a case of "protesting too much".
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