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    As (originally) requested by Honest Tiefling

    Original Thread, with good info:
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    This is a thread dedicated to finding and listing all the Named D&D Monsters (ex: not the MM "Archmage", but {Greyhawk} "Mordenkainen") with Deity-level beings listed separately.

    Lots of related Information (and some changes) in:
    Ancient Realms
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    To the 9th

    I tend to treat Deities as both separate and more powerful then Celestials (Even Solars), Demon Lords , Archdukes, Archfey, etc.

    I tend to really count the "Elder Gods" different, not only due to the fact that they don't gain Power via Belief/worship, but their Goals are difficult to determine.

    While powerful enough to keep all other Deities out of Sigil, The Lady of Pain is not a Deity. And does not grant power to Warlocks, etc.
    So far, I have failed to really find much on the net.
    And because I'm stuck on my phone, I don't have access to Older Edition books/PDFs.

    Played and Portrayed correctly, all Intelligent Creatures (Fiends) can be dangerous.

    ****
    A list of books on Fiends.

    Guide to Hell
    Hellbound: the Blood War (Planescape)
    The Faces of Evil.
    Fiendish Codex 1 and 2.
    A Paladin in Hell
    In the Abyss
    Devil's Deal
    Exemplars of Evil
    Fires of Dis
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    The 9 Archdukes of Hell.
    Zariel (was Bel)
    Dispater
    Mammon
    Fierna (and Belial)
    Levistus (imprisoned)
    Glasya
    Baalzbul
    Mephistopheles
    Asmodeus

    Demon Lords
    Demogorgon
    Orcus
    Baphamut
    Graz'zt

    Replace?
    Yeenogu ? ("Demon" God of Gnolls)

    Lolth (Goddess of Drow) - This is a Demon that thinks it's a Deity.
    see some of the comments below.

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    Baalphegor: Archdevil/Succubus
    Link

    I found some more
    Demon Lords
    Dragons
    KLAUTH (FR) Ancient Red Dragon

    DRAGOTHA (GH) Dracolich

    Dragon Gods Tiamat and Bahamut.

    Note: I tend to not count the Darksun "Dragons" as such, because they are transformed into those
    Beholders
    "Xanathar" (FR) currently Zushaxx (with Silgar)

    Ok…
    Let the Name Game begin!!
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    Lots more dragon gods than that.

    Behold the Io family tree.

    Io - Overdiety of all dragons

    Aasterinian
    Astilabor
    Bahamut
    Chronepsis
    Faluzure
    Garyx
    Hlal
    Lendys
    Sardior
    Tamara
    Tiamat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyutaru View Post
    Lots more dragon gods than that.
    Oh, yes.
    Lots in the Draconomicon and Council of Wyrms

    Thanks for the list.

    Anaya

    Baatral

    Harajin

    Lorabelios

    Nemevon

    Silnia

    Tamiel
    And
    Zarod

    eight fallen angels petrified for their crimes in the Labyrinth of the Underdark (Out of the Abyss/Rage of Demons)

    No Individual names, but listed just as reference
    Asura

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    You're going to want to refer to this and this to start off with.
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    Look at that, I really am famous.


    There's ****loads of demons and devils as mentioned. DnD has been ridiculously obsessed with them for decades. Other than that,
    -Celestial Hebdomad that nobody bothers to learn the individual names of
    -The furry boybandguardinal lords under Talisid who're somehow even less interesting
    -Queen Morwel and at least two consorts that get mentions
    -A few baernaloths whose only distinctive member is Apomps
    -General of Gehenna and holders of contested position of the Plaguedaemon to represent the 'loths
    -Malcanthet and her old rivals that you can find out more about in the skeevier parts of nerdosphere
    -A quartet of slaad lords whose canonicity is questionable
    -Primus
    have names worthy of notice in Planescape.

    Also asuras had a commander with some old Abrahamic name that I don't remember in ADnD, but those are bit player mercs.
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    See To the 9th for Comments.

    Go, Google Fu!

    Hebdomad

    The Celestial Hebdomad
    (Tome Archons)

    Barachiel, the Messenger - Ruler of Lunia, the bottom Top layer of Celestia, Lunia - also known as the Silver Heaven.

    Domiel, the Mercy-Bringer - Ruler of the Golden Heaven of Mercuria, the second layer of Celestia.

    Erathaol, the Seer - Ruler of Venya, the Pearly Heaven, the third layer of Celestia.

    Pistis Sophia, the Ascetic - Ruler of Solania, the Crystal Heaven, the fourth layer of Celestia.

    Raziel, the Crusader - Ruler of Mertion, the Platinum Heaven, the fifth layer of Celestia.

    Sealtiel, the Defender - Ruler of Jovar, the Glittering Heaven, the sixth layer of Celestia.

    Zaphkiel, the Watcher - Ruler of the Illuminated Heaven of Chronias, the seventh layer of Celestia.

    The Eladrin Court of Stars

    Queen Morwel

    Faerinaal, the Queen's Consort - Oversees the defense of the Court of Stars and liberates eladrins captured by evil forces.

    Gwynharwyf, the Whirling Fury - Queen Morwel's loyal champion and a barbarian of unparalleled ferocity.

    Morwel, Queen of Stars - The ruler of the eladrins and the Court of Stars

    Former Members:

    Ascodel - This former Royal Consort was tricked into a pact with the demoness Pale Night, condemning a generation of young eladrins to be eternally bound to the Abyssal layer of Androlynne. Ascodel died fighting to defend these children on Androlynne.

    Vaeros - The predecessor of Faerinaal perished during a mission to the Abyss to liberate eladrins captured by the forces of evil.

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    Talisid
    Talisid, the Celestial Lion: Leader of the companions for several millenia, most powerful of the leonals.

    Sathia, the Sky Duchess: Representative of the avorals and patron of sculptors and painters.

    Manath, the Horned Duke: Representative of the cervidals and newest member of the Companions.

    Vhara, Duchess of the Fields: Representative of the equinals.

    Kharash, the Stalker: Paragon of lupinals and Talisid's best friend.

    Bharrai, the Great Bear: Matriarch of the ursinals and teacher of magic.
    ???????
    Consorts:
    Faerinaal

    Gwynharwyf, The Whirling Fury: Patron of barbarians
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    I'll be honest, I didn't see Baernaloths (or Yugoloths) being used in any of the 2e games I was in, and I was "encouraged" to not use Fiends while DM-ing in the 80s.

    Malcanthet

    two Slaad Lords known as Ssendam and Ygorl.
    Chourst, Lord of Randomness
    Rennbuu, Lord of Colors
    Ssendam, Lord of Madness
    Wartle ??

    Gormeel Slaad
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    Vecna was a lich before being deified, does that count?

    How about his vampire servant/betrayer Kas?

    Maybe troll through some Ancient Artifacts? In 1st ed especially, they usually are associated with named folk, some of whom could count as monsters (some, like Otiluke, Tenser, Evard, etc., just would be human wizards instead). Case in point, Baba Yaga (of the famous Hut).

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    @Particle_Man: I would have gone:
    "The Lich Acererak, with his now Divine mentor, Vecna"

    Kas qualifies, even though he's now also a (Lesser?) Deity.

    Strahd counts. (Despite him being the D&D version of Dracula, except that he can't leave his "homeland")

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    Mordenkainen
    Otto
    Otoluke
    Bigby
    Natasha
    Melf
    Snillic

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    Old Artifacts are a good idea, you got the old DMG to list the names?
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    You should put your own spin on the lesser known ones, or even just highlight some older fiends that might find use in modern games.

    I'd like to see some campaign hooks made for Mister Impy (Moloch) made up for DMs to steal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Dragon View Post
    Mordenkainen
    Otto
    Otoluke
    Bigby
    Natasha
    Melf
    Snillic
    Drawmij is very displeased that you forgot him.
    Leomund would be but he's very secretive.

    Evard and Tenser though are just offended.

    Oh almost forgot Isaac, Elminster, Serten, Nystul, Simbul, and Rary.

    And for some reason we still pay homage to Abi-Dulzum.
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    @Honest Tiefling

    Looks like a project for:

    World Building


    Hope to see you there!!!

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    I don't see Ashardalon, the Great Red Dragon who trapped a demon in his own heart, on this list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillianHawkeye View Post
    I don't see Ashardalon, the Great Red Dragon who trapped a demon in his own heart, on this list.
    Nice.
    But, what's the name of the trapped Demon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Dragon View Post
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    Old Artifacts are a good idea, you got the old DMG to list the names?
    Sure! Note that some names might seem suspiciously similar to those of Gary Gygax and his crew.

    "The First Dwarven King"
    Baba Yaga
    Tzunk (Archmage-Priest)
    Yagrax (writer of Codex of Infinite Planes)
    Al'Akbar (LG High Priest)
    Vecna (arch-lich in 1st ed)
    Heward (a bard, perhaps?)
    Arnd (high priest)
    Tuerny the Merciless
    Sultan Je'ef Peh'reen
    Kuroth (master thief)
    Cuthbert (a man, then a saint, then a god)
    Baron Lum the Mad
    General Leuk-O
    Ye'Cind (bard?)
    Queen Ehlissa (also Mordenkeinan, Xagy, Joramy the volcano goddess)
    Wind Dukes of Aaqa
    Gaxx (alien?)
    Dahlver-Nar (most powerful cleric ever in history! Suck it, min-maxers, you lose!)
    Kas
    Orcus

    And people named as ways of destroying artifacts:

    Marion (who apparently had an artifact-destroying trench named after them)
    Cerebus (actually spelt this way - was Gygax aware of Cerebus the Aardvark at the time?)
    Talos a triple Iron Golem
    Artur (buried in a Dolmen)
    Bahamut
    Tiamat
    Geryon
    Jubilex

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillianHawkeye View Post
    I don't see Ashardalon, the Great Red Dragon who trapped a demon in his own heart, on this list.
    Quote Originally Posted by Great Dragon View Post
    Nice.
    But, what's the name of the trapped Demon?
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    I had to look this up, but it was a Balor named Ammet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillianHawkeye View Post
    I had to look this up, but it was a Balor named Ammet.
    Great!

    Found:
    Vaprak the God of Trolls and Ogres.
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    Well if you're seriously looking for a giant list of boringness that's useless for any practical purpose, I have it. If you want even gianter and boringer and uselesser, afro has it.
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    I can't get either Link to load on my phone.

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    Wikipedia lists a few dozen demon lord http://https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wi...s_%26_Dragons). They have similar lists for other categories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldan View Post
    Wikipedia lists a few dozen demon lord <snip> They have similar lists for other categories.
    That link did not work, error page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldan View Post
    Wikipedia lists a few dozen demon lord https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demo...s_%26_Dragons). They have similar lists for other categories.
    I fixed the link in this quote (removed http redundant protocoll identifier).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelmaker View Post
    I fixed the link in this quote (removed http redundant protocoll identifier).
    Thanks.

    Looks like most has been covered.

    I'm kinda not able to really add much more, since I no longer have the Old Books and I'm stuck on my phone for searching.
    Google is nice, but has lots of missing tidbits of really Unusual D&D (and other RPGs) information.

    Please add anything you find, even (and especially) if not on the net, just please remember to include the Edition and (splat)Book for ease of finding ourselves.

    I'll be occasionally dropping in (hopefully) useful Adventuring Plot Hooks in "To the 9th" thread

    I also just added my current Campaign Thread Ancient Realms in World Building.

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    There's hundreds more, really... are you sure you don't want to limit that list in some way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldan View Post
    There's hundreds more, really... are you sure you don't want to limit that list in some way?
    I was hoping to use this thread as mostly a way to give everyone ideas for Beings (Types, Names, Personality, History, etc) - I was trying for lots more non-Divine Creatures/Monsters - to use, by all means keep the Train rolling!

    If I happen to find something (even from a fantasy "third party" source) I'll drop that in.
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    WEll, for starters, I don't see any 'loths on your list, so:

    The General of Gehenna
    Charon
    Anthraxus
    Mydianchlarus
    Bubonix
    Typhus
    A'kin
    Cholerix
    Helekanalaith
    Shemeshka the Marauder
    Alcain Fem’at
    Vilinathraxes

    And Baernoloths:
    Daru Ib Shamiq, the Lie Weaver
    Harishek Ap Thulkesh, the Blind Clockmaker
    Sarkithel Fek Parthis, the Chronicler
    Koristal Il Palinthiin, the Proselytizer
    Lazarius ibn Shartalan, the Architect
    Methikus sar Telmuril, the Flesh Sculptor

    I can't find the rest of them, but there should be 13.

    And I just found out that one of my favourite online resources, Lomion, seems to be down.
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    @Eldan:
    Awesome!

    I find it both interesting and sad that Charon was made into a 'loth.

    Since he was supposed to be the Greek Ferryman, where not even Hades really knew much about 'him'.

    Edit:
    Charon just never seemed to fit being a "General" for me either, since his Minions were more "willing servants" and not "sworn" Soldiers.

    Thanks, Eldan!!
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    He's not really a general in D&D, as far as I know. He's just the foremost of the yugoloth ferrymen of the river styx.
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    There's somewhere around 6 dense pages of dieties in the back of On Hallowed Ground alone. Are you sure this is a freeforall, or is there a google doc somewhere you'd like to organize it rather than scattered in this thread?
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    So long as the Giant and the Mods don't mind....

    @Brookshw
    I don't have the ability right now to organize everything, myself.
    Anyone willing to do that is greatly welcomed!!

    I actually like seeing lots of people adding things for others to share, and don't mind digging into the multiple pages of a thread to find things that are interesting.

    Humm. Might need to edit the OP, letting folks know that this could be the case.

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    Fiendish Codex 2
    Malbolge - 6th layer of Hell - named after former Night Hag ruler.

    Contains:
    Giant Spiders, Centipedes, and Wasps

    Paeliryon and
    Erinyes
    ***********************
    (Paeliryon) Axacrusis.
    ************************
    (ArchDevil) Tartach. A member of Glasya's Court.
    ***********
    Sekolah - the Gigantic White Shark.
    Deity of the Sahuagin
    ************
    Last edited by Great Dragon; 2019-07-07 at 05:46 PM.
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    No offense is intended by anything I post.
    *Limited Playtest Group - I'm mostly Stuck in the White Room.
    *I am learning valuable things, here. So thanks, everyone!

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    Bugbear in the Playground
     
    BlackDragon

    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Location
    Portland, Oregon
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Name those Monsters! (Referencing Game)

    Malebranche = Demoted Bone Devil
    Xerfilstyx = Demoted Ice Devil
    Pleasure Devil = Promoted Erinyes.
    Ronwe ?

    Bel
    Pit Fiend "The First General"

    This guy really doesn't make a good Archduke.

    I'll keep looking for information on Zareal.

    The Dark Eight
    (Pit Fiends)
    Baalzephon, Furcus (new), Ziminar, Zaebos, Dagos, Zapan, Corin, Pearza.

    The great thing is that when a new Devil takes the place of a General, they take their Name and assume their appearance. They can still be contacted and Summoned by the 'Old Name's.

    I'm most likely going to be applying this to the First General as well.

    Upper Ranks
    Duke -> Archdevil -> Archduke.

    Outcasts
    Equal to Dukes

    Amon, Armaros, Azazel, Busy, Cabor, Caim, Dagon, Duskue, Herodias, Kochbiel, Malarea, Nergal, Nisroch, and Rumjal.

    I've moved Moloch, since I run him as being an Archdevil, and can go to any Level of Inferno (Hell), even Nessus, so long as he stays out of Asmodeus' sight.

    "Judge" Ashkult
    Castalla Erinyes

    Tiamat's Servitors
    Amduscias and Malphas

    Minions: Fiendish Kobolds (pg 40 FC 2)
    Last edited by Great Dragon; 2019-07-27 at 10:43 AM.
    My Knowledge, Understanding, and Opinion on things can be changed
    No offense is intended by anything I post.
    *Limited Playtest Group - I'm mostly Stuck in the White Room.
    *I am learning valuable things, here. So thanks, everyone!

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