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    Its too soon to judge but I can't identify in what was spoiled so far. Which I don't mind, I needed to cut on MTG cards lol

    I know one of my friend, a huge history nerd. He would love that Boros school division
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    Is that a dwarf chick with a minigun that shoots magic scrolls? Who is apparently also a history major?

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    Is that a dwarf chick with a minigun that shoots magic scrolls? Who is apparently also a history major?

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    I believe the minigun is actually made of scrolls and shoots Lightning Helixes.
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    I believe the minigun is actually made of scrolls and shoots Lightning Helixes.
    Meant to say "shoots from a scroll" but yes you are correct.

    It's just so beautiful.

    I will say, analyzing the cards a bit. It's weird to me that each of them is showcasing what a group of college students are doing. While Prismari Command seems to me to be one bearded lady in high heels and some light show behind her. I may not be seeing it correctly.

    I'm guessing it's the orc lady on the banner for Prismari since every other card has the banner character on it. I'm guessing the college hero?
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    The Prismari are the art kids, so the command is showing a performance, just like how the silverquill are pictured entering the arena of a slam poetry tournament.
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    EDIT: Should have made that "search your library for a sorcery with mana value 2 or less and copy it."
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    You may cast the copy.

    With what? You just shuffled all your lands into your library.

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    Way, way too strong. It's up there with Balance and other Alpha spells.

    Imagine my opponent is an aggro deck that empties their hand, so I t3 crack a fetch, shuffle their field away including their lands, and I still get the land from my fetch.
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    Way, way too strong. It's up there with Balance and other Alpha spells.

    Imagine my opponent is an aggro deck that empties their hand, so I t3 crack a fetch, shuffle their field away including their lands, and I still get the land from my fetch.
    Well, what you could do is this:

    Get 2 plains and 2 islands.

    Float 2 white mana somehow (might need to rewrite Emagbus to require mana for the copy of the spell you cast with it)
    Cast Emagbus chosing yourself and your opponent
    Cast Shahrazad for ww
    Start a new subgamE of Magic with a full library and all your stuff
    Repeat this process X times.
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    Way, way too strong. It's up there with Balance and other Alpha spells.

    Imagine my opponent is an aggro deck that empties their hand, so I t3 crack a fetch, shuffle their field away including their lands, and I still get the land from my fetch.
    All they own. That includes their hand, and yours. But yes you would still get your land.

    How does sorcery-speed cast from library work with this wording? how does end step sorcery speed casting work as well?

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    All they own. That includes their hand, and yours. But yes you would still get your land.

    How does sorcery-speed cast from library work with this wording? how does end step sorcery speed casting work as well?
    Might need to add that in. Also, in order to cast Shahrazad, I'd probably need it to be castable without paying the cost.

    Do you get to mulligan in the subgame? Maybe have an alternative cost of Emagbus being to skip your next turn? That way you could fetchland the card and cast it turn 1 of the Shahrazad subgame? Give it split second just in case and the copy you cast too?

    So that would be

    Turn 1 main game: Fetchland, Emagbus, Shahrazad
    Turn 1 subgame 1: Fetchland, Emagbus, Shahrazad
    Turn 1 subgame 2: Fetchland, Emagbus, Shahrazad
    Turn 1 subgame 3: Fetchland, Emagbus, Shahrazad
    ...
    Turn 1 subgame n-1: Fetchland, Emagbus, Shahrazad
    Turn 1 subgame n: Fetchland, Emagbus, Shahrazad
    Turn 1 subgame n+1: Fetchland, Emagbus, Shahrazad?

    Though if you're playing blue, you might have to make sure they don't Choke you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gooddragon1 View Post
    Might need to add that in. Also, in order to cast Shahrazad, I'd probably need it to be castable without paying the cost.

    Do you get to mulligan in the subgame? Maybe have an alternative cost of Emagbus being to skip your next turn? That way you could fetchland the card and cast it turn 1 of the Shahrazad subgame? Give it split second just in case and the copy you cast too?

    So that would be

    Turn 1 main game: Fetchland, Emagbus, Shahrazad
    Turn 1 subgame 1: Fetchland, Emagbus, Shahrazad
    Turn 1 subgame 2: Fetchland, Emagbus, Shahrazad
    Turn 1 subgame 3: Fetchland, Emagbus, Shahrazad
    ...
    Turn 1 subgame n-1: Fetchland, Emagbus, Shahrazad
    Turn 1 subgame n: Fetchland, Emagbus, Shahrazad
    Turn 1 subgame n+1: Fetchland, Emagbus, Shahrazad?

    Though if you're playing blue, you might have to make sure they don't Choke you.
    What happens when you create that many subgames?
    Can you lose by drawing your seven initial cards?
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    What happens when you create that many subgames?
    Can you lose by drawing your seven initial cards?
    You shuffle everything back in first (including Emagbus). Also, you're casting a copy of the sub game starter card.
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    You shuffle everything back in first (including Emagbus). Also, you're casting a copy of the sub game starter card.
    The actual question is who will ever willingly submit him/herself to a card thats banned in every format ever AND custom made cards AND wont concede after you mention 'subgame'.

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    The actual question is who will ever willingly submit him/herself to a card thats banned in every format ever AND custom made cards AND wont concede after you mention 'subgame'.
    Ordinarily that would be a problem. However, because Emagbus is subgame spelled backwards, they will have an inversion of their desire to concede. That means the custom made cards issue and the subgame issue cancel out. So it's just a problem with the card being banned. You'll need two more cards for that (but only if it's a problem):
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    Ordinarily that would be a problem. However, because Emagbus is subgame spelled backwards, they will have an inversion of their desire to concede. That means the custom made cards issue and the subgame issue cancel out.
    I'm sorry. What?
    So it's just a problem with the card being banned. You'll need two more cards for that (but only if it's a problem):
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    So, your solution to a card being banned (and another card being custom) is to
    A. Use a card that is not even theoretically legal in any format.
    B. Use a card that is not even a Magic: The Gathering card.

    You're not even playing Magic at that point, you're playing Calvinball.
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    I'm sorry. What?

    So, your solution to a card being banned (and another card being custom) is to
    A. Use a card that is not even theoretically legal in any format.
    B. Use a card that is not even a Magic: The Gathering card.

    You're not even playing Magic at that point, you're playing Calvinball.
    Shahrazad is not on the Calvinball ban list or even the restricted list.
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    Shahrazad is not on the Calvinball ban list or even the restricted list.
    Then why are you jumping through hoops to play it (an un-card and an Uno card) if it's not banned in the context you're talking about?

    I do not understand what your goal here is. If you just want to cast Shahrazad as many times as possible, there are plenty of ways to do that without a custom card no one will let you play.

    If you want to convince people to play through the subgames...have fun.

    In answer to a previous poster's question, yes, if you have fewer than the required number of cards kn your deck at the beginning of the subgame, you immediately lose.
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    Shuffle all the cards you own include the reserve?

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    Then why are you jumping through hoops to play it (an un-card and an Uno card) if it's not banned in the context you're talking about?

    I do not understand what your goal here is. If you just want to cast Shahrazad as many times as possible, there are plenty of ways to do that without a custom card no one will let you play.

    If you want to convince people to play through the subgames...have fun.

    In answer to a previous poster's question, yes, if you have fewer than the required number of cards kn your deck at the beginning of the subgame, you immediately lose.
    I was just having a bit of fun making a theoretical card that could interact with it to make infinite subgames, but at that point I guess it would be better to just make a card that can do that on it's own...


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    I was just having a bit of fun making a theoretical card that could interact with it to make infinite subgames, but at that point I guess it would be better to just make a card that can do that on it's own...


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    Quote Originally Posted by gooddragon1 View Post
    I was just having a bit of fun making a theoretical card that could interact with it to make infinite subgames, but at that point I guess it would be better to just make a card that can do that on it's own...


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    I was just having a bit of fun making a theoretical card that could interact with it to make infinite subgames, but at that point I guess it would be better to just make a card that can do that on it's own...
    You can already do this.

    Generate infinite mana, some of it red, with one of the maaaaaaaaaaany ways that exist to do that.

    Have out Izzet Guildmage.

    Cast Shahrazad.

    Copy it literally as many times as you want.

    Like Fable Wright says, you're making cards that no one would ever knowingly play against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Muse View Post
    You can already do this.

    Generate infinite mana, some of it red, with one of the maaaaaaaaaaany ways that exist to do that.

    Have out Izzet Guildmage.

    Cast Shahrazad.

    Copy it literally as many times as you want.

    Like Fable Wright says, you're making cards that no one would ever knowingly play against.
    nor that 'I copy sherezade' is ever likely to resolve anyways. Might as well just make 1: I win.

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    nor that 'I copy sherezade' is ever likely to resolve anyways. Might as well just make 1: I win.
    I mean, you missed the worst part of the design: It's a two-mana Worldfire in the original game, except it doesn't even set life totals. Who doesn't want to play a game with no hand and semi-random life totals after finishing another completely unnecessary game?

    Fighting through three Sherezade effects in an evening might let me tell stories about that fateful day for years to come and be amusing. I might not scoop for that, because Sherezade is infamous (and thus people will know what I'm talking about) and the game is recoverable from that state.

    The proposed card is just so much worse because (1) you had to explicitly volunteer for it, so it couldn't be a 'Sherezade out of nowhere' moment that gets no sympathy, and (2) recovering from the subgame is worse than the subgame.
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