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    Bananas are also pretty convenient, although I don't know if they are that easy in their natural version. Tangerines, too, require no instrument. Kaki fruits are very easy to open, but you get a lot of splatter. Figs, too, you can open with your hands.
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    I thought Tom Bombadil dreadful — but worse still was the announcer's preliminary remarks that Goldberry was his daughter (!), and that Willowman was an ally of Mordor (!!).

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    I mean, most real life fruits are easier to eat than this, like apples, peaches, or grapes that you can just eat straight. There's only a couple that are particularly difficult, pineapples and coconuts, for instance. Fruit specifically evolved to be eaten so as to spread the seeds further than they can be carried by the wind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    Yeah im actually starting to think she is only barely human, maybe child like, in mentality. Like, even if we could hear what she is saying it wouldnt amount to much in the way of coherency. I mean, she was smart enough to figure out how to climb the tree to get the food, but not smart enough to understand how to get at the tasty part inside. She still clearly has no concept of her nudity being an issue either which also points to the less than adult female level of intellect. Maybe its a side effect of what the plant monster did to her. Maybe its that her creation was interrupted by snout before she could achieve full sentience? Maybe she is just an angry nudist that was really hungry?
    From the way she was talking, both to the other guy and to Snout, I'm guessing she is capable of language, just not written one.
    Also, unlike Snout she has low skill in wilderness lore.
    If her mind/knowledge/personality is at least partially based on someone from the city, it's not surprising.

    As for being naked, it's more attributed to Mookie's latest fetish rather than anything indicating about her personality.
    Really not sure why he's so much into it lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by random11 View Post
    From the way she was talking, both to the other guy and to Snout, I'm guessing she is capable of language, just not written one.
    Also, unlike Snout she has low skill in wilderness lore.
    If her mind/knowledge/personality is at least partially based on someone from the city, it's not surprising.

    As for being naked, it's more attributed to Mookie's latest fetish rather than anything indicating about her personality.
    Really not sure why he's so much into it lately.
    I'm not sure if "naked people" really counts as a "fetish."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    I'm not sure if "naked people" really counts as a "fetish."

    "Ah, yes. My fetish is seeing someone's sexual organs. Scandalous, I know."
    I didn't mean it in a sexual context, quite the opposite in this case.
    From Mookie, I don't get the "fan service" vibe, it's more like "I feel like drawing it and will find any excuse to shove it in.

    I don't have a general problem with nudity, it's just that like other artistic choices, when used so often it requires some sort of purpose or intent.
    Without it it just feels weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by random11 View Post
    From the way she was talking, both to the other guy and to Snout, I'm guessing she is capable of language, just not written one.
    Also, unlike Snout she has low skill in wilderness lore.
    If her mind/knowledge/personality is at least partially based on someone from the city, it's not surprising.

    As for being naked, it's more attributed to Mookie's latest fetish rather than anything indicating about her personality.
    Really not sure why he's so much into it lately.
    Its entirely likely those panels were just incoherent screaming.
    "Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
    Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."

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    Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
    "If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    Its entirely likely those panels were just incoherent screaming.
    It looked like something that had meaning, and it also makes sense since the vines do know the concept of language, but not necessarily understand writing.
    Then again it could be just gibberish, hard to tell.

    I guess at least part of it is because I prefer the alternative of her not being with a mind like a child.
    Like mentioned earlier, I consider finding ways to communicate the best option to use this character, if she is able to talk and communicate, this is a limitation that they need and can overcome while they travel, but if it's an inability to communicate in any way it removes once again another option to actually treat being deaf as something meaningful to his story.

    It's not one of these things I consider as "has to be my way, otherwise story is bad", I guess it can also go somewhere with other alternatives, but frankly I don't think Mookie is able to do anything good with the second alternative.

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    Update

    Never mind, seems like she can write, or at least imitate writing.
    She's just got bad handwriting, something I can relate to.

    Or maybe she doesn't really understand what she is doing other than imitation. Prepare for many pictures of objects, followed by write-talking in perfect grammar, Tarzan style.

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    I think it means that he's teaching her how to write.
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    Its possible she is just doing monkey see monkey do right now, or its also possible that she is a very fast learner. Should be interesting to see if she is really understanding this.
    "Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
    Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."

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    Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
    "If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."

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    We also don't know if she can use language at all. She could have been just yelling. And now she has to learn Snout's language without sound.

    In that case, it probably would have been easier to teach her a sign language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinyadan View Post
    We also don't know if she can use language at all. She could have been just yelling. And now she has to learn Snout's language without sound.

    In that case, it probably would have been easier to teach her a sign language.
    I'm assuming that Mookie isn't clever enough to know that sign language exists.
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    Does snout know a sign language?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kornaki View Post
    Does snout know a sign language?
    No idea. Lack of worldbuilding and the choice of a zany setting mean that anything and its opposite could be the case.
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    I figure there isnt one when half or more of his neighbors dont have the proper shaped hands or any hands at all.
    "Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
    Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."

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    Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
    "If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."

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    I think the reason is a lot simpler: He already committed to the idea of writing.

    That being said, I prefer it this way.
    The journal is horrible for various reasons, and the coincidences with an ink related magic is just as bad, but I have a feeling it would have been worse with sign language.
    Imagine the level of coincidences required for Snout to find enough people he can communicate with. The writing is a bit forced, but at least it makes sense that most people can write.
    And all this for what? to show a panel of two people randomly moving their hands just so Snout can later summarize the conversation in his journal like it's already done?
    Thanks, but no thanks.

    Update

    Can't help noticing that she is still naked without even an improvised leaf poncho

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    Heroes who disappeared: from Klo-Thark to Klo-Thes.
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    You could at least let her borrow your overalls, Snout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mewtarthio View Post
    You could at least let her borrow your overalls, Snout.
    Then he would be naked. Not sure that's an improvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    Then he would be naked. Not sure that's an improvement.
    Yeah, thats all he has to wear. Im not sure what the deal is here, they totally could have jerry rigged a toga or something. It kinda fits into my "She isnt all there mentally" angle though.
    "Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
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    "If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    Yeah, thats all he has to wear. Im not sure what the deal is here, they totally could have jerry rigged a toga or something. It kinda fits into my "She isnt all there mentally" angle though.
    Unfortunately, it doesn't help Snout look empathic.

    We are talking about the same guy that places fixing *his* cloths as a top priority in his journal, along with a knitting montage.
    Same guy that just a few days ago experienced shame of walking naked in the street, and kindness of being given a simple piece of cloth in his situation.
    The fact she doesn't know any better and that they are heading to a civilized city makes it even worse.


    Also, I tried to imagine climbing a tree and crawling on a branch while being naked like she did, it still hurts.

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