The Goblin Defense Fund

[Nonah_Me]

did i sign it
yes

am i going to make my friends sign it
of course

hoping trolls can get some of the love
just a little

If the goblins are going to be associated with "durned smelly trolls" then me and my halfling freinds are OUT. I'll not be frickaseed, diced, sliced or pulped just to be put into a troll stew.

I really, really hate trolls. Really.

[SoD]

Go for Goblins!

A campaign for those of short stature...and aren't halflings. Or gnomes.

[The Neoclassic]

Goblins are awesome. I don't see why trolls would be brought in though; this is a mission for goblins and other goblinoids to a much lesser extent.

[Fixer]

I love the comparison of combat tactics...

"The concept of a fair fight is meaningless in their society. They favor ambushes, overwhelming odds, dirty tricks, and any other edge they can devise . . . goblins have a poor grasp of strategy and are cowardly by nature, tending to flee the field if a battle turns against them.”



“Elves are cautious warriors . . . maximizing their advantage by using ambushes, snipers, and camouflage. They prefer to fire from cover and retreat before they are found, repeating this maneuver until all of their enemies are dead.”


Its amazing, now that you look at it, how one can basicly take the exact same tactic, write it two different ways, and make one sound like cowardly swine, and the other to be graceful, tactical warriors...

This act alone compelled me to sign the petition.

[Dubie]

Fixer, if thats realy you in your picture avatar, you look so much like my brother-in-law its spookey....

[SoD]

I propose we NEVER allow this thread to die, so that we may gain more votes for Goblins!

[Arang]

I love the comparison of combat tactics...

"The concept of a fair fight is meaningless in their society. They favor ambushes, overwhelming odds, dirty tricks, and any other edge they can devise . . . goblins have a poor grasp of strategy and are cowardly by nature, tending to flee the field if a battle turns against them.”



“Elves are cautious warriors . . . maximizing their advantage by using ambushes, snipers, and camouflage. They prefer to fire from cover and retreat before they are found, repeating this maneuver until all of their enemies are dead.”


Its amazing, now that you look at it, how one can basicly take the exact same tactic, write it two different ways, and make one sound like cowardly swine, and the other to be graceful, tactical warriors...

The way I see it elves use ambushes etc. because they view it as smart to fight that way.

Goblins use ambushes etc. because they're cowards.

I'm not saying goblins aren't antagonized, because they are. I just think that there's more than one side to this particular issue.

[Dubie]

No matter what, Goblins will always be mostly antagonists in my worlds. I just thought it was an interesting comparison. Imagin the Goblins version of the Monster Manual.

"Elves are filthy cowards. They prefer to hide in trees, firing arrows and running away before thier opponents can fight back. They repeat this tactic until they've murdered all thier enemies without a fair fight."

"Goblins are cunning warriors, prefering to ambush thier opponents with spears and arrows, retreating before the enemy recovers from the initial shock. They repeat this tactic until all thier enemy has been defeated. Use of such briliant tactics allows the goblins to defeat much more powerful foes then would be possible in hand to hand combat."

[Forrester]

The way I see it elves use ambushes etc. because they view it as smart to fight that way.

Goblins use ambushes etc. because they're cowards.

Boy howdy, that's convenient. Elves aren't cowards. They're just smart.

*vomits*

www.goblindefensefund.org

[Morty]

Boy howdy, that's convenient. Elves aren't cowards. They're just smart.

*vomits*

Well, the're also graceful, preety, and somehow manage to be excellent swordsmen, wizards and archers at the same time.
To be perfectly honest, this site takes things a little too seriously, but elves are described quite fanboy-like in D&D.

[Arang]

Boy howdy, that's convenient. Elves aren't cowards. They're just smart.

*vomits*

www.goblindefensefund.org

Well, no. Not as such. If the elves thought they'd win more easily/with smaller losses by going toe-to-toe, they'd probably do so.

The goblins, as written, would probably still be hiding behind a bush.

[Name_Here]

The history is so far my favorite part of the site. I can't believe that the SUnless Citadel is an actual adventure. I mean whose bright idea was it to have the party slaughter Goblins because they have the aduacity to sell their disease curing fruit.

I mean how messed up is that?

Though it does give me a great idea of what my party will do if I ever think they are getting in to too much of a kill green things on sight way of thinking.

[Lord Tataraus]

My the goblins be free!

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In one of my worlds the goblins are the most powerful race, with twice the population of any other race and they have steampunk technology while the rest of the world is medieval, especially the dwarves, who are isolated from every other race except and only survive because of goblin trade.

[Wraithy]

Boy howdy, that's convenient. Elves aren't cowards. They're just smart.

*vomits*

www.goblindefensefund.org

he he, It's this sort of sentence that makes me want to use LOL as a verb.

My the goblins be free!

In one of my worlds the goblins are the most powerful race, with twice the population of any other race and they have steampunk technology while the rest of the world is medieval, especially the dwarves, who are isolated from every other race except and only survive because of goblin trade.

....you....are.........GOD!

[Lord Tataraus]

....you....are.........GOD!

I try. The world changes a lot of setreotypes, like humans have the smallest population, elves are barbaric nomads without any form of manners, dwarves are just plan pathetic and are near slaves to the goblins (though thats because goblins control every aspect of them). Halflings are a grand race and the only ones who actively defy the goblins, but are too occupied with protecting their cities and shrines to do anything and the have a reputation of extorting the less powerful people who want them as sailors (the halflings are shoal halflings with powers over water). Its a great setting and I can't wait to see the player's reactions.

[Forrester]

The history is so far my favorite part of the site. I can't believe that the SUnless Citadel is an actual adventure. I mean whose bright idea was it to have the party slaughter Goblins because they have the aduacity to sell their disease curing fruit.

I mean how messed up is that?

Though it does give me a great idea of what my party will do if I ever think they are getting in to too much of a kill green things on sight way of thinking.

lol, that's a great line (cleaned up a bit):

"I can't believe that the Sunless Citadel is an actual adventure. Whose bright idea was it to have the party slaughter Goblins because they have the audacity to sell a disease curing fruit?"

I have to add that to the site somewhere!

[Arakune]

The history is so far my favorite part of the site. I can't believe that the SUnless Citadel is an actual adventure. I mean whose bright idea was it to have the party slaughter Goblins because they have the aduacity to sell their disease curing fruit.

I mean how messed up is that?

Though it does give me a great idea of what my party will do if I ever think they are getting in to too much of a kill green things on sight way of thinking.

TOTALLY QFT!!!!

[Morty]

I was preety puzzled when I saw that thing about goblins in The Sunless Citadel. I thought that the whole "kill the goblins because they're there" was just an exagerration that doesn't happen in serious adventures.

[Lord Tataraus]

I was preety puzzled when I saw that thing about goblins in The Sunless Citadel. I thought that the whole "kill the goblins because they're there" was just an exagerration that doesn't happen in serious adventures.

Wanna bet? Maybe not a well constructed adventure, but in a serious adventure, yes. I've played my share (as well as my players).

[AKA_Bait]

Well, no. Not as such. If the elves thought they'd win more easily/with smaller losses by going toe-to-toe, they'd probably do so.

The goblins, as written, would probably still be hiding behind a bush.

Well, I do believe the entire point here is that goblins, as written, are represented in an unfair and discriminitory light. How do you know, from the way it's written, that Elves would stand up more toe to toe than our gobliniod friends, eh? How do you know if the goblins though they could kill with fewer losses that they would not?

Cowardice is in the eye of the beholder sir! It can be just as cowardly to cut down an easy opponent to his face as to shoot at a dangerous one from hiding.

Real courage comes from being able to sit and discuss your differences without resorting to violence in the first place. An option Dwarves and Gnomes have never allowed to Goblins...

[Wraithy]

Cowardice is in the eye of the beholder sir!

beholder?!

Goblins, prepare an ambush! when our soldiers attract the atimagic eye, the shamans blast it from behind!

[Wraithy]

Cowardice is in the eye of the beholder sir!

beholder?!

Goblins, prepare an ambush! when our soldiers attract the atimagic eye, the shamans blast it from behind!

[AKA_Bait]

beholder?!

Goblins, prepare an ambush! when our soldiers attract the atimagic eye, the shamans blast it from behind!

You know, I've been waiting several hours for someone to make that joke...

[Wraithy]

so long I posted it twice

[Sgilti]

Death to ethno-centricity! For the equality and fraternity of all races! Let's show the humans that they're not the gods' favored creation.

*Signed*

[Arbitrarity]

beholder?!

Goblins, prepare an ambush! when our soldiers attract the atimagic eye, the shamans blast it from behind!

Beware, for they shall be overcome with the buttery deliciousness of popcorn!

[Starsinger]

Well, the're also graceful, preety, and somehow manage to be excellent swordsmen, wizards and archers at the same time.
To be perfectly honest, this site takes things a little too seriously, but elves are described quite fanboy-like in D&D.

A. It's not our fault we managed to get ourselves wonderful PR agents between editions.. although, this over-abundance of elven subtypes is annoying, showing that there's such thing as too much of a good thing...

And B. It's not Elves who've been hating Goblins all these years, Orcs is our fault, but Goblins? That's the little people, specifically Dwarves and Gnomes. Elves could care less if Goblins and Gnomes switched places, pesky little buggers gnomes... I'd rather have Goblins as a core race.

And C. By making racist and other hateful remarks against elves, you're merely perpetrating the same sin we're fighting against. Demonizing elves won't stop demonization of goblins.

[Morty]

A. It's not our fault we managed to get ourselves wonderful PR agents between editions.. although, this over-abundance of elven subtypes is annoying, showing that there's such thing as too much of a good thing...

Elves: what you can do, they can do better. Especially if you play on Faerun.

And B. It's not Elves who've been hating Goblins all these years, Orcs is our fault, but Goblins? That's the little people, specifically Dwarves and Gnomes. Elves could care less if Goblins and Gnomes switched places, pesky little buggers gnomes... I'd rather have Goblins as a core race.

Gnomes? What gnomes? Gnomes don't exist, just like Ewoks.

And C. By making racist and other hateful remarks against elves, you're merely perpetrating the same sin we're fighting against. Demonizing elves won't stop demonization of goblins.

I'm not against elves, but people who designed them. And I resent that, I've never made any racist claims against elves. Not that it's possible to talk about racism in case of imagined species.

[Wraithy]

Elves could care less if Goblins and Gnomes switched places, pesky little buggers gnomes... I'd rather have Goblins as a core race.

seconded

[Renrik]

Man, this reminds of the Goblin Revolution storyline in the Town. The Goblin Statehood Army launched a guerilla ewar againstopressive dwarves and humans in goblin homelands and created a goblin republic.

Yeah, I'm signing this petition. I'm signing the HELL out of this petition.