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    It's really cute seeing the kids already ready to get this **** going. They've really grown into fine heroes, every one of them. It's really sweet.

    All for One rudely taunting Dabi about how his plans never fail because he has a million plans so he always has a back up is hilarious because of the two, Dabi's "just be the Joker at him" is genuinely way more effective at fulfilling his goals.

    And yeah, this is pretty blatant, and I've had my suspicions. I spent like, an hour back when the chapter was first released trying to figure out where Hagakure was during the USJ incident, way way way back when... given her invisibility quirk it made sense to assume she was just hiding like Aoyama, but this is a direct statement that she's been compromised in some way. I also feel like Horikoshi's "yeah I just forgot about it" quote regarding the traitor was just... you know. A lie. Cause that's a thing authors do sometimes.

    I think it tracks, there are other pieces of evidence. Hagakure was able to sneak up on a pro hero like Snipe. She did happen to encourage everyone to go shopping the day Deku met Shigaraki at the mall. There are clues here.
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    I read this mha fanfic that came out awhile ago, still ongoing, and I wanted to talk about it here because I felt it did something interesting. In it, we go right back to the start of the series, with the teaching staff watching the entrance exam. We find out later on that they are having a big teachers conference about not just how the students did, but about various warning signs and potential problems the students may have. As an example, midoriya has a quirk based off of doomsday here in that he adapts to damage he takes. And he has shown a rather concerning amount of adaptation that suggests he has been rather viciously bullied growing up and a guy with a quirk that lets him over time adapt to virtual immunity to anything he survives being exposed to being an abuse victim and thus more likely to lash out and become a villain because of it, they have to keep an eye on him. They also have to keep an eye on bakugo because he is pretty clearly a hyper violent lunatic and suspect number 1 for being midoriyas primary bully due to varying levels of resistances he has. They point out monoma and his frankly absurd inferiority/superiority complexes, even toru and how her ability would be so easy to abuse for minor villany. And of course mineta being a capture specialist AND a raging foaming at the mouth perverted piece of trash raises all sorts of red flags with them. (im not a fan of early mineta especially) They dont plan to do too much aside from keep an eye on matters but they make it clear they are aware of them and do take some steps to address them (bakugo is in class 1b for example and they ensure he never shares training facilities or classes with midoriya)

    All of this brought to mind how little of a damn the teachers seemed to give in general in canon for many of these problems. Like, mineta was treated as a perverted comedic punching bag but never seemed to get into any official trouble, bakugo is a raging lunatic who literally screams at everything he attacks to die and they do little to get him to control himself. We have this crazy bugger from class b constantly harassing class a and getting knocked unconscious by his own classmates and do we ever see vlad doing something about that? How about todoroki and his rather clear issues with his powers pre sports festival? Any teacher should be seeing abuse red flags popping up all over the place. They know what his quirk is, they know he refuses to use it. THAT SHOULD BE SEEN AS A PROBLEM! I know that a lot of this is done because of narrative convention, tropes, things like that, but its honestly kind of strange when you stand back and look at it how much these heroes seem to ignore.
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    They've made it very clear that Mineta has no rights and the instant he goes beyond ****ty comments he gets wrapped in in bandages and sent to the time out corner. Also, controversial; Bakugo's bullying is awful... but normal. It shouldn't be, I agree, but this is not outstanding behavior in any regard, and it is clear from his actions that aside from Deku, he is actually quite measured and calm... it's just that he's hyper energetic and has no filter. And they DO address those problems... by letting him fail the license exam for these problems so he learns first hand "this is something you've done that ****ed you over". That is the only way someone like Bakugo learns, and he DID. He's mellowed out a LOT compared to early on, because he actually learned and become a better person.

    Monoma as well has likely improved we just don't see him much. Todoroki's abuse is definitely something everyone sees... but what do you do about it? His father is ENDEAVOR. How do you even begin to approach that sort of thing, especially when as a teacher it isn't really your responsibility.

    I think an important thing is that we are shown, on occasion, that they ARE noticing these problems. They just prefer to let these things sort themselves out naturally instead of interfering unless absolutely necessary, which leads to better growth 9 times out of 10.

    To use Todoroki as an example; would he have made that same degree of progress in the way he did had he gone to a therapist? Potentially. Or would his completely oblivious personality and inability to look at himself due to his father's shadow looming over him prevent him from speaking? Would having the issue forced out by someone who his peer who clearly wants to help him be better or worse than a teacher- a better, perhaps one could say- imposing upon him.
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    I mean its the same kind of "but wouldn't X institution see this as a problem in this universe" when you look at any universe that both wants to make A: responsible upright institution for our protagonists to work in and B: make our protagonists quirky, warm and relatable/a bunch of people with their own mental problems as a result of the world they live in.

    the general view of a responsible institution is.....that they aren't quirky or odd. they're official, responsible and stately and thus boring to watch. but being a warm and relatable human being seems to be inextricable or inseparable from being an imperfect oddball. the expectation of these kinds of shows is that you fall in love with the protagonists quirky lovableness, like the institution when its specifically showing them to be responsible and politely ignore why the institution hasn't cracked down on the protagonists quirky traits whether good or bad so they all speak businesslike and take everything seriously and calmly without going off topic into strange banter.
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    They've made it very clear that Mineta has no rights and the instant he goes beyond ****ty comments he gets wrapped in in bandages and sent to the time out corner. Also, controversial; Bakugo's bullying is awful... but normal. It shouldn't be, I agree, but this is not outstanding behavior in any regard, and it is clear from his actions that aside from Deku, he is actually quite measured and calm... it's just that he's hyper energetic and has no filter. And they DO address those problems... by letting him fail the license exam for these problems so he learns first hand "this is something you've done that ****ed you over". That is the only way someone like Bakugo learns, and he DID. He's mellowed out a LOT compared to early on, because he actually learned and become a better person.

    Monoma as well has likely improved we just don't see him much. Todoroki's abuse is definitely something everyone sees... but what do you do about it? His father is ENDEAVOR. How do you even begin to approach that sort of thing, especially when as a teacher it isn't really your responsibility.

    I think an important thing is that we are shown, on occasion, that they ARE noticing these problems. They just prefer to let these things sort themselves out naturally instead of interfering unless absolutely necessary, which leads to better growth 9 times out of 10.

    To use Todoroki as an example; would he have made that same degree of progress in the way he did had he gone to a therapist? Potentially. Or would his completely oblivious personality and inability to look at himself due to his father's shadow looming over him prevent him from speaking? Would having the issue forced out by someone who his peer who clearly wants to help him be better or worse than a teacher- a better, perhaps one could say- imposing upon him.
    Bakugo is more than just hyper, he is hair triggered and enraged constantly early on. Im not sure if he is yelling deku more often or some variation of "ILL KILL YOU! DIE!!!" Often while creating mini explosions in his palms to emphasize his desire to kill you. In any other situation, having one student constantly threatening the lives of everyone who dares to say anything to him other than "Omg you are so amazing be my senpai bakugo-dono!" (That gets you casual insults, so... better?) is considered not a good thing. Especially when said maniac can create explosions at will. Quick search got me this 20+ minutes of bakugo yelling, screaming, threatening, and in general being a freaking crazy person. Yes you can cherry pick specific examples where it was justified or understandable but the point remains. Plus, this isnt normal school, this is a hero school. You would think bad behavior in a world full of super powers would be halted more stringently because if I punch you in the face I might split your lip. If bakugo does it, your head might shatter in a giant fireball. Yes it FINALLY bit him in the rear at the provisional exam, but his teachers. You know, the pro heroes trying to teach him to BE a hero? Just let him rampage through his class up till then. Instead of maybe trying to teach him some self control.

    As for mineta. Dude repeatedly sexually assaulted students, I mean, he groped tsuyu TWICE during the usj incident which is awful on multiple levels. Tried to peep on the girls multiple times, and made absolutely no effort to be anything other than a creepy pervert. At exactly what point would YOU call it crossing the line? Again, his behavior is bad enough in a regular high school, this is supposed to be a school to teach heroes. The closest thing to heroic he does I can think of early on was defeating midnight with a clever plan. The majority of the time he is screaming and crying in tense situations and only fighting out of desperation.

    As for todoroki, first of all, they have ALL MIGHT teaching there. The insurmountable mountain of a hero who has probably 10x the pull of number 2. In any confrontation, either legal, public opinion, or combat, he loses. Second, it is very much so the job of teachers to spot and report incidents of suspected abuse. Maybe not in japan, I dont know, but in the states at least, they are generally taught what to look for and what to do about it. Third, even if his abuse somehow isnt the job of heroes to do anything about, the fact that its causing him to hate half of his own quirk and refuse to use it out of spite is dangerous as heck! ESPECIALLY in a quirk as powerful as his. Again, a large part of UA is teaching them how to use their quirks safely, effectively, and overall better. By just letting him ignore half his abilities they are failing to do their jobs. It took midoriya giving him therapy no jutsu to break him of that mindset and nearly got a lot of people killed in the process when his untrained fire abilities clashed with his ice and dekus punch and created a fricking air burst explosion that rained concrete shrapnel over an entire stadium.

    Now, all that said, i am aware that over time these characters have grown changed and improved. The thing is, that was generally done despite the lack of effort on the part of the teachers to help matters, not because of them. I know bakugo and todoroki especially are a lot better and more mentally healthy than they were, but thats not because of any help or guidance the teachers gave them.
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    Bakugo is more than just hyper, he is hair triggered and enraged constantly early on. Im not sure if he is yelling deku more often or some variation of "ILL KILL YOU! DIE!!!" Often while creating mini explosions in his palms to emphasize his desire to kill you. In any other situation, having one student constantly threatening the lives of everyone who dares to say anything to him other than "Omg you are so amazing be my senpai bakugo-dono!" (That gets you casual insults, so... better?) is considered not a good thing. Especially when said maniac can create explosions at will. Quick search got me this 20+ minutes of bakugo yelling, screaming, threatening, and in general being a freaking crazy person. Yes you can cherry pick specific examples where it was justified or understandable but the point remains. Plus, this isnt normal school, this is a hero school. You would think bad behavior in a world full of super powers would be halted more stringently because if I punch you in the face I might split your lip. If bakugo does it, your head might shatter in a giant fireball. Yes it FINALLY bit him in the rear at the provisional exam, but his teachers. You know, the pro heroes trying to teach him to BE a hero? Just let him rampage through his class up till then. Instead of maybe trying to teach him some self control.

    As for mineta. Dude repeatedly sexually assaulted students, I mean, he groped tsuyu TWICE during the usj incident which is awful on multiple levels. Tried to peep on the girls multiple times, and made absolutely no effort to be anything other than a creepy pervert. At exactly what point would YOU call it crossing the line? Again, his behavior is bad enough in a regular high school, this is supposed to be a school to teach heroes. The closest thing to heroic he does I can think of early on was defeating midnight with a clever plan. The majority of the time he is screaming and crying in tense situations and only fighting out of desperation.

    As for todoroki, first of all, they have ALL MIGHT teaching there. The insurmountable mountain of a hero who has probably 10x the pull of number 2. In any confrontation, either legal, public opinion, or combat, he loses. Second, it is very much so the job of teachers to spot and report incidents of suspected abuse. Maybe not in japan, I dont know, but in the states at least, they are generally taught what to look for and what to do about it. Third, even if his abuse somehow isnt the job of heroes to do anything about, the fact that its causing him to hate half of his own quirk and refuse to use it out of spite is dangerous as heck! ESPECIALLY in a quirk as powerful as his. Again, a large part of UA is teaching them how to use their quirks safely, effectively, and overall better. By just letting him ignore half his abilities they are failing to do their jobs. It took midoriya giving him therapy no jutsu to break him of that mindset and nearly got a lot of people killed in the process when his untrained fire abilities clashed with his ice and dekus punch and created a fricking air burst explosion that rained concrete shrapnel over an entire stadium.

    Now, all that said, i am aware that over time these characters have grown changed and improved. The thing is, that was generally done despite the lack of effort on the part of the teachers to help matters, not because of them. I know bakugo and todoroki especially are a lot better and more mentally healthy than they were, but thats not because of any help or guidance the teachers gave them.
    Not for nothing but we also see Bakugo screaming "die plaque die" while brushing his teeth. He's just like this, and while it is initially concerning and his behavior towards Deku early on is ****ty, it is clear that everything is just bluster. Despite all this shouting of die, how many people has he actually hurt in a way that wasn't equivalent to "needs a bit of a wash"? He's got incredibly good control of his explosions, which by right should probably be maiming people every time he uses them... and at most they get a little roughed up by them. His actions do not match his words- except for in the sports fest where he said, correctly, "I'm always calm". The issue is that his "calm" looks like this, but does not in any sense make him UN calm. That's part of why they let Bakugo a little loose; they can tell he doesn't actually mean this, and the attitude problem is something he needs to have make him fail to properly learn is bad.

    Also as an addendum; during the first real test at school, the Hero vs Villain test with the fake bomb... that was the one time Bakugo ever went too far, and everyone involved was like "okay yeah we need to stop this" and it was All Might who was like "... **** no, we need to leave it" and even then he did go to stop it before the final blows ANYWAY. So they clearly are monitoring him closely and will stop things if he goes too far.

    Mineta was reprimanded after the USJ incident and every time he makes ****ty comments the next immediate panel is him wrapped up in Sero's tape or otherwise being beat to ****, deservedly. He's improved my margins and while it would be good to see him receive more punishment or on screen reprimanding... that'd also force us to focus on the ****ty perv joke character and I genuinely just don't want that. His actions get regulated to comedically being tortured for being a little **** because otherwise we have to deal with him at all. I do not like Mineta.

    All Might is genuinely a terrible teacher in a lot of respects, especially early on. All Might would have almost zero idea how to handle Todoroki's problem... especially because Todoroki's problem is not something you can just "fix" by talking it out with him in a quick little therapy sesh. It is something that he needs to reach himself, and just being talked to by an adult won't help. Also, I find calling it "therapy no jutsu" is a bit disingenious; children react more strongly to their peers calling them out on this ****, and something REALLY important to consider is that they treat Todoroki's entire story really seriously. He doesn't immediately get over it, and even up to where we are in the story it is clear he still feels uncomfortable using his fire, and has zero intention of ever letting his dad back into his life as anything more than a professional hero capacity. Todoroki's story is amazing and realistic. And as powerful as these kids are, Cementoss prevented any civilian injuries. A single pro hero. It's fine.

    But yeah, these characters have grown a lot, and I don't think it's completely without the teachers. One flaw of My Hero I will admit to is that it doesn't have as many moments to just let things breath and see regular school stuff. Some of the characters don't get as much focus as I'd like. So it feels like the teacher's aren't doing much for these kids. But I think there is definitely more than nothing going on, and also from personal experience I can say that sometimes the best way to guide someone is to let them figure it out themselves. Point them in a direction, make sure they don't fall off the edge, but let them work it out themselves.

    Whether this is the best method for everyone is obviously a point of contention, but I think it works with Bakugo and Todoroki. Generally speaking, from their actions we know they're good kids at heart. They just have issues they need to learn ARE issues, then find out how to overcome them.

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    I used therapy no jutsu as a sort of verbal shorthand for "Protagonist helps someone out with their mental issues mid fight" Its a pretty common trope even when it makes sense. I wasnt implying it was some magical ability or something or that it didnt have any justification for working, just that its what happened.

    As for all might, dear gods yes the man SUCKS at teaching, especially at the start. He isnt a trained teacher, he is the #1 hero who took on a teaching job with little clue how to do it. What was his teaching to midoriya to learn how to use his quirk? Oh yeah, "CLENCH YOUR CHEEKS AND YELL SMASH!" I think it was. Cue midoriya virtually exploding internally the first time he uses it. My point wasnt that all might would be a good enough teacher to spot and help todoroki. My point was that on one side of the scale you have endeavor. The number 2 ranked hero with a lot of money power and clout. A truly dangerous person to accuse of child abuse. However UA has All Might. The #1 hero with far more of all those things than endeavor. So if there was any sort of backlash, it would likely end in UA's favor.
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    As for all might, dear gods yes the man SUCKS at teaching, especially at the start. He isnt a trained teacher, he is the #1 hero who took on a teaching job with little clue how to do it. What was his teaching to midoriya to learn how to use his quirk? Oh yeah, "CLENCH YOUR CHEEKS AND YELL SMASH!" I think it was. Cue midoriya virtually exploding internally the first time he uses it.
    To be fair to AM. By all account he was a natural at using it. And so quite likely that was all he had to do.


    My point was that on one side of the scale you have endeavor. The number 2 ranked hero with a lot of money power and clout. A truly dangerous person to accuse of child abuse. However UA has All Might. The #1 hero with far more of all those things than endeavor. So if there was any sort of backlash, it would likely end in UA's favor.
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    To be fair to AM. By all account he was a natural at using it. And so quite likely that was all he had to do.




    Who would win if the #1 and the #2 Hero clash in an explosive case about child abuse?
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    The answer is All for One.
    He and Dabi could honestly not have engineered a better situation themselves.
    Well yeah, but keep in mind that at the start of the story all might thought all for one was dead and nobody had even heard of dabi before the summer camp thing. So getting into a flexing contest to protect a child from his abuser was absolutely the sort of thing he would have done. And that UA should have done. But I will admit I can understand why it wasnt done from an in universe justification. Im sure the hero commission would have been ticked, the damage to the prestige of the heroes by having one of their own exposed for being a wife buying child abusing *%$%^&, especially when its the second ranked hero, would have been immense and the sort of thing they would be eager to sweep under the rug however they could. Its entirely likely that if all might insisted, endeavor would have been quietly retired and under a very subtle house arrest (at another house entirely of course) than his kids. Because while yes the backsplash would hit everyone, the majority of it would bury endeavor so they could probably force him to accept the outcome quietly.
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    All that did indeed happen before it was known All for One had survived.
    Unfortunately, it would still be the sort of devestating blow to hero society that could allow countless new dangers to rise.
    And worst of all. Its not even certain it would actually do anything. The burden of proof would be heavy on All Might.

    Its quite likely he would still fail to accomplish anything. Certainly not get Endeavor to retire or accept house arrest.
    Nowhere near enough evidence for that sort of thing. Nowhere near crimes bad enough.
    Not for someone as influential as Endeavor. Perhaps if he had killed someone. And it was impossible to claim self defence in any way.
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    Regarding Mineta... He lost any chance of sympathy when he was introduced to Eri—a horribly traumatized abused and tortured seven-year-old—and introduced himself by saying "I look forward to meeting you again when you're legal" or something along those lines.
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    Regarding Mineta... He lost any chance of sympathy when he was introduced to Eri—a horribly traumatized abused and tortured seven-year-old—and introduced himself by saying "I look forward to meeting you again when you're legal" or something along those lines.
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    Yeah the problem with Mineta is that looking back on similar characters throughout anime, he is kind of worst iteration of trope.
    -Happousai from Ranma 1/2 was never sympathetic and was mostly an antagonist, and perversion was just one of many of his despicable traits so it didn't really matter.
    -Master Roshi had this old eccentric master thing going for him and the fact that he was this immortal hermit who lived on his island so its not as if he was actively seeking out women to creep on, he is isolated and away from anyone who might be affected unless they actively seek him out
    -Sanji has his cooking skills and such to give him other traits to focus on and seems successful given that One Piece fans will ardently defend One Piece no matter what I criticize about it
    -Jiraiya also has traits and a life outside of perversion, from being a spymaster, to being Naruto's surrogate father, to being a toad sage, to training Nagato, Minato, being one of the three Sannin, and given that we see scenes of him having conversations with women at bars and teahouses and they're enjoying the time until Naruto comes running up to call "Ero-Sannin", he is capable of controlling himself to some extent, he is clearly capable of doing his job. also he wrote novels that were clearly successful to some extent so clearly he was able to channel his energies to something productive with that.

    Mineta? he kind of....just has this one trait and its exaggerated so he stands out amid like 30 other characters who are more interesting than him. and the depth you can argue him having doesn't really reach all that deep.

    like the difference is no starker and is no better illustrated than how fanfics treat someone like Jiraiya vs. someone like Mineta. in fanfics, Jiraiya is pretty much never cut out. he is always vital in some manner, he's pretty much never villainized, and there are some fanfics that outright give him the position of Hokage as long as he tones down his perverted tendencies to acceptable levels, he does so and....he is still recognizably Jiraiya. meanwhile Mineta in MHA fanfics is universally treated as someone to deal with, ignore or cut out entirely and the story doesn't suffer from his absence.

    you cut Jiraiya from Naruto you no longer have the story of Naruto, but if you tone down his perverted tendencies, you still have Jiraiya of the Sannin.

    you tone down the perverted tendencies of Mineta you have a non-entity, but if you cut out Mineta, you still have the story of MHA.
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    You know what I would have loved about Mineta? That his perverse side is to hide the fact he was actually attracted by guys! Now THAT would have being a shocking reveal LOL

    Or they make Mineta a girl... That would have being fine too. Still cringy but way less hateful.

    But yeah, I wish he had tone down his perverse side a bit. Make him pitiful like in the movies: try so hard to impress girls and fail horribly. Even make him a sulky chad at some occassion, a trait he could have tone down as the serie goes on.

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    Master Roshi also had a mini-arc running in the background of the "recruit people for the Tournament of Power" arc where he realizes that his lust has become uncontrollable and trains to rein in his urges becuase it's an unacceptable weakness.

    It doesn't exactly stick, but props for trying. He made the effort.

    Mineta... Mineta saw a traumatized seven-year-old, thought "I'm gonna tap that as soon as it's not a crime" and said as much out loud to the girl's face.

    Also... His power is sticky balls of hair. The icky pervert has an icky power and I can't help but think that that's intentional. If it's not, it's probably a contributing factor to why he's disliked.

    Team Four Star couldn't make him funny so they didn't even try when they did MHA season 1 in five minutes.
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    Mineta is a firm case of "the worst part of a great thing" because I've seen far worse examples of Mineta than Mineta, they're just from BAD series instead of GOOD ones, so Mineta's ****tiness stands out worse.

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    Honestly, Mineta is not the worst anime pervert I’ve ever seen, but he is the most jarring. Like… Aizawa KNEW about his tendencies enough to warn the Pussycats about him… and in their infinite wisdom they decided the best way to deter him from being gross to the girls was by putting a toddler on the dividing wall.

    Boy hasn’t gotten so much as a demerit and it just seems off.

    Granted, Bakugou unleashed a deadly gigantic explosion at another student in a training exercise against the instruction of the supervising teacher, and all he got was “stop acting like a child,” so *shrug*

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    Yeah the problem with Mineta is that looking back on similar characters throughout anime, he is kind of worst iteration of trope.
    -Happousai from Ranma 1/2 was never sympathetic and was mostly an antagonist, and perversion was just one of many of his despicable traits so it didn't really matter.
    -Master Roshi had this old eccentric master thing going for him and the fact that he was this immortal hermit who lived on his island so its not as if he was actively seeking out women to creep on, he is isolated and away from anyone who might be affected unless they actively seek him out
    -Sanji has his cooking skills and such to give him other traits to focus on and seems successful given that One Piece fans will ardently defend One Piece no matter what I criticize about it
    -Jiraiya also has traits and a life outside of perversion, from being a spymaster, to being Naruto's surrogate father, to being a toad sage, to training Nagato, Minato, being one of the three Sannin, and given that we see scenes of him having conversations with women at bars and teahouses and they're enjoying the time until Naruto comes running up to call "Ero-Sannin", he is capable of controlling himself to some extent, he is clearly capable of doing his job. also he wrote novels that were clearly successful to some extent so clearly he was able to channel his energies to something productive with that.

    Mineta? he kind of....just has this one trait and its exaggerated so he stands out amid like 30 other characters who are more interesting than him. and the depth you can argue him having doesn't really reach all that deep.

    like the difference is no starker and is no better illustrated than how fanfics treat someone like Jiraiya vs. someone like Mineta. in fanfics, Jiraiya is pretty much never cut out. he is always vital in some manner, he's pretty much never villainized, and there are some fanfics that outright give him the position of Hokage as long as he tones down his perverted tendencies to acceptable levels, he does so and....he is still recognizably Jiraiya. meanwhile Mineta in MHA fanfics is universally treated as someone to deal with, ignore or cut out entirely and the story doesn't suffer from his absence.

    you cut Jiraiya from Naruto you no longer have the story of Naruto, but if you tone down his perverted tendencies, you still have Jiraiya of the Sannin.

    you tone down the perverted tendencies of Mineta you have a non-entity, but if you cut out Mineta, you still have the story of MHA.
    See to me sanji is the "best" kind of pervert. Its more an exaggerated brock from pokemon pervert in that he "falls in love" with every woman he sees and goes into super flirt mode. As far as I can recall he doesnt peek, attempt to grope, or otherwise reduce to sexual organs the women he sees. Well, aside from the group peeping in alabasta thing. Yeah post time skip he gets the crazy nosebleeds but iirc that was basically a traumatic "funny" over reaction to finally being around sexy women again instead of being stuck on okama island being chased by a small army of very martially adept cross dressers.

    Jiraiya is probably the closest to mineta in behavior because he does peep, he does have an obsession with seeing women naked and sex. Its kind of unclear how much of that is serious and how much of that is him playing a role. (I pray at least some of it is or else he frequently legit loses control around his 13 year old godson just because he uses a henge) But yeah its also not all that he is as you said and that helps to smooth out some of the hate. He is a genuine ninja master and shows it on the regular with an assortment of skills that make him a useful part of the story beyond gags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Cribati View Post
    Honestly, Mineta is not the worst anime pervert I’ve ever seen, but he is the most jarring. Like… Aizawa KNEW about his tendencies enough to warn the Pussycats about him… and in their infinite wisdom they decided the best way to deter him from being gross to the girls was by putting a toddler on the dividing wall.

    Boy hasn’t gotten so much as a demerit and it just seems off.

    Granted, Bakugou unleashed a deadly gigantic explosion at another student in a training exercise against the instruction of the supervising teacher, and all he got was “stop acting like a child,” so *shrug*
    Banish him to that other school, and in 10 years of comic time in the flash forward showing the new world, then he can make a Cameo signifying he has reformed.

    The alternative is showing him getting punished and having to do menial labor like cleaning the UH windows while also practicing his quirk with its climbing function.
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    Like… Aizawa KNEW about his tendencies enough to warn the Pussycats about him… and in their infinite wisdom they decided the best way to deter him from being gross to the girls was by putting a toddler on the dividing wall.
    Well yeah. They are adults. They know kids do dumb stuff. No reason to make a big deal out of it.

    Granted, Bakugou unleashed a deadly gigantic explosion at another student in a training exercise against the instruction of the supervising teacher, and all he got was “stop acting like a child,” so *shrug*
    Here.. the unsafe working enviroment starts with the entrance exam. And only continue to escalate.
    In so many cases the amount of force involved would and should be lethal for the people involved. So kinda unfair so single Bakugo out. Especially as i recall Deku actually hurt himself worse than Bakugo did.

    Banish him to that other school, and in 10 years of comic time in the flash forward showing the new world, then he can make a Cameo signifying he has reformed.

    The alternative is showing him getting punished and having to do menial labor like cleaning the UH windows while also practicing his quirk with its climbing function.
    Well.. sadly you wont get that wish. Also im quite certain that other school would say quite rude things to you for calling it a punishment assigning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lord_khaine View Post
    Well.. sadly you wont get that wish. Also im quite certain that other school would say quite rude things to you for calling it a punishment assigning.
    We can do a school exchange with the earthbender kid who annoys Bakugou. Bakugou can have another rival who is an elemental user. We lose Mineta.

    ( Yo Shindo and yes he is not technically an earthbender, just a vibrator )
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    Quote Originally Posted by lord_khaine View Post
    In so many cases the amount of force involved would and should be lethal for the people involved. So kinda unfair so single Bakugo out. Especially as i recall Deku actually hurt himself worse than Bakugo did.
    I see you’ve decided to ignore the “against the instructions of the supervising teacher part.” Not that I blame you, because the narrative did as well.

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    Well, this revelation confirmed my theories about the mole, so I'm happy about that.

    As with Dabi, though, the revelation is only the beginning. This isn't a story about mysteries, it's a story about people. Why is she a mole for AfO, and most importantly, what does she feel about it? When she acted friendly with her classmates while leading them into a trap, was she wearing a sadistic grin or was she barely holding back tears? That's the interesting question, and the real reason why she's perfect as a mole, narratively. I'm sure that a montage of past moments where we are shown her outline and expression would pack quite an emotional punch, if Horikoshi puts it at the right moment.

    And, of course, how will the other kids react when they inevitably find out the truth? This series manages to keep me always hyped.

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    We can be the earthbender kid who annoys Bakugou, he can have another rival who is an elemental user.
    Im sorry but i dont understand this sentence at all

    I see you’ve decided to ignore the “against the instructions of the supervising teacher part.” Not that I blame you, because the narrative did as well.
    Oh yeah absolutely i ignored that part. You have not done any actual combat training?
    Heat of the moment when adrenaline is on its peak? yeah thats to be expected.
    Its the same with hockey players when they once in a while pause to do some brawling. Not like thats suposed to happen either.
    And in the end, Bakugo did indeed still have full control of his explosions. Deku's actual injuries were self inflicted.

    Honestly. If anything is to be critiqued.
    Then its that they are send on this sort of training this early at all.
    But i guess its the same as with olympian athletes. They need to begin this early to get good enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lord_khaine View Post
    Im sorry but i dont understand this sentence at all
    He's talking about the kid that can make earthquakes and vibrations and stuff.

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    He's talking about the kid that can make earthquakes and vibrations and stuff.
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    Amped up male super jiro.
    I am not 100% sure but I think Yo Shindo is just 80s / 90s version of Rictor from X-Factor / X-Force / X-Men with a personality transplant. Like a mirror universe Rictor from Star Trek.
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    I am not 100% sure but I think Yo Shindo is just 80s / 90s version of Rictor from X-Factor / X-Force / X-Men with a personality transplant. Like a mirror universe Rictor from Star Trek.
    Im just remembering that jiro could do the ground shattering vibration thing too. Only in her case it was channeled from her ear jacks into her gauntlet speakers. Made a good impression during the provisional exams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    Im just remembering that jiro could do the ground shattering vibration thing too. Only in her case it was channeled from her ear jacks into her gauntlet speakers. Made a good impression during the provisional exams.
    Power Books are useless in my opinion for how you uses powers matter more than some form of stat. But the Ultra Analysis databook put Jiro's raw power at 3/6 and Shindo raw power at 5/6. The earlier databook had Jiro's raw power at 1/5 so she has increased her output quite alot in the last year.

    But while Shindo may be stronger Jiro has some greater versatility, with a higher reaction time / speed and a higher technique.

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    But back to the subject of hand I would gladly trade Shindo for the Mineta guy with his pop off quirk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramza00 View Post
    Power Books are useless in my opinion for how you uses powers matter more than some form of stat. But the Ultra Analysis databook put Jiro's raw power at 3/6 and Shindo raw power at 5/6. The earlier databook had Jiro's raw power at 1/5 so she has increased her output quite alot in the last year.

    But while Shindo may be stronger Jiro has some greater versatility, with a higher reaction time / speed and a higher technique.

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    But back to the subject of hand I would gladly trade Shindo for the Mineta guy with his pop off quirk.
    Mineta has legit the strongest villain capture quirk in the series though. Pop off is broken.
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