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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim Portent View Post
    Deciding he's not essential is certainly arrogance on the part of the JSP
    It's mostly Noah who made that decision for them, what with his stubborn insistence on being dead weight.
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    Well. Arrogant. Plain stupid. One thing or the other. Noah and Noel is basically irreplaceable.
    And that should be clear. It also seems like the Secret Police badly does want to succeed and become heroes.

    It's mostly Noah who made that decision for them, what with his stubborn insistence on being dead weight.
    Dead weight is something you leave behind at base.

    Noah is about the opposite. Since the mission is impossible without him.

    Else he has as such not stubbornly insisted on anything.
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    I dunno, his avoidance on physical activity even in the face of danger is kind of impressive.
    I mean, I'm not exactly fit and, like Noah, I'd rather read a book than do any of that sports stuff. And I still think he compares unfavourably to a potted plant.

    Not that I'd do any better, but with how he keeps getting in danger I'd at least try to improve*.

    The funny part is that I actually like Noah's reluctance on the whole adventure thing compared to Tobi and Burk.
    But at this point it kinda starts to get grating.

    Not that I want Noah to turn into some generic action hero, but at this point someone should make him train.
    If not his body then his power.

    *Well, actually I'd probably die.
    If only because I'm unlucky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    I dunno, his avoidance on physical activity even in the face of danger is kind of impressive.
    I mean, I'm not exactly fit and, like Noah, I'd rather read a book than do any of that sports stuff. And I still think he compares unfavourably to a potted plant.

    Not that I'd do any better, but with how he keeps getting in danger I'd at least try to improve*.

    The funny part is that I actually like Noah's reluctance on the whole adventure thing compared to Tobi and Burk.
    But at this point it kinda starts to get grating.

    Not that I want Noah to turn into some generic action hero, but at this point someone should make him train.
    If not his body then his power.

    *Well, actually I'd probably die.
    If only because I'm unlucky.
    Think about it this way. The Empire is a militaristic state where everyone receives some level of combat training. Noah is so bad at physical stuff he got an actual medical exemption from gym class for both his and others safety.

    And his first arc was basically people forcing him to train his magic.
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    Merry Christmas Noah! You got a monster that needs to be fought using your favorite battle technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gez View Post
    Merry Christmas Noah! You got a monster that needs to be fought using your favorite battle technique.
    That works until those flying monkey-mosquitoes reach him.
    I don't think that trick will work on them too.

    But yeah, nice for Noah to have a foe that matches his prefered strategy so well.
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    Think about it this way. The Empire is a militaristic state where everyone receives some level of combat training. Noah is so bad at physical stuff he got an actual medical exemption from gym class for both his and others safety.
    As i recall he litterally injured himself with a training sword a couple times.
    And he has tripped repeatedly when trying to run.

    So yeah. Noah is basically the anti-Burk.

    Also a fresh concerning though.
    With how real these things are. It seems quite possible killing Chernyl wont shut them off?
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    That looks very bad for Noah. I guess he now has no other choice than to ask for another favour from those mysterious beings he shouldn't ask any more favours.
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    Problem is it does not look like he has any control over -when- he meet them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welf View Post
    That looks very bad for Noah. I guess he now has no other choice than to ask for another favour from those mysterious beings he shouldn't ask any more favours.
    Well, Noah is finally ded. One less narrative to worry about

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    Ending the year by ending one of the protagonists certainly is a bold move.
    So... does that mean the beginning of a new year brings the beginning of a new story-line?

    Or is it Burk/Tobi-time?
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    Funny enough. This might be close to the ideal situation for Nail.

    All the dead weight wandered off leaving the single mission critical piece of equipment behind.
    The radar you need to find Cheryl.
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    Yep. That's what happens.

    Nail, Noel and Noah are on adventure.

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    Well if you can also get your hands on Noel its even better.
    The Secret police were double morons for giving up on the Noel+Noah set bonus.
    Its massive.
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    I really love it!

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    Nail is the savior Noah needs, and deserves.
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    He really is. It is a good point about Noah being whiny.
    And whats overlooked here, is what kind of superhuman strengh Nail posses.
    That gasp is what 10-12 meter? Noah Should still weight some odd 30-40 kg, scrawny kid as he is?
    Its like throwing a sack of potatoes. Getting it past 3-4 meter is a impressive feat, that grows exponentially more hard.
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    That was nice by the military commander. I hope he doesn't get killed in the next few pages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welf View Post
    That was nice by the military commander. I hope he doesn't get killed in the next few pages.
    Well he is the most supportive of the irrelevant characters* so he's most probably doomed. (As anecdotal evidence, I also submit that I don't see him on the incentive spritesheet.)


    * The relevant characters in this scene being those who have a four-letter name starting with "N".
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    I find myself oddly fond of Noah, and relate to him on... probably more levels than I should, despite being rather older than him.

    That being said, he really should try to gain at least enough physical fitness to survive the stupid situations he keeps getting into- I think it was just combat training that he was terrifyingly inept at, not more generalized fitness, at least if I'm remembering correctly.

    As a thought, I wonder if Nail's abilities are similar to Burk's at all? Granted, the only reason to think that is because they both fall under the 'nobody has any freaking clue what they are or how they can do what they do', but it'd be interesting if Burk wasn't as unique as he seemed at first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gez View Post
    Well he is the most supportive of the irrelevant characters* so he's most probably doomed. (As anecdotal evidence, I also submit that I don't see him on the incentive spritesheet.)


    * The relevant characters in this scene being those who have a four-letter name starting with "N".
    There's a huge randomness factor to the incentive and who I ended up including, it doesn't hold much predictive value.
    A lot of chars made it in because they happened to be on one of the sheets I opened to fill it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoriceisgood View Post
    There's a huge randomness factor to the incentive and who I ended up including, it doesn't hold much predictive value.
    A lot of chars made it in because they happened to be on one of the sheets I opened to fill it.
    And yet, that's not a no lol

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    I'm thinking the commander might well live, even alive he's likely to only complicate things further for the magical kids in one way or another.

    He can't voice public support for the project even if this operation works, because it is still a state secret and the narrative about how Chernyl's power got unleashed is going to be tightly controlled. Of course he might wind up branded as the hero of the city because he's the only person directly involved who's existence is public knowledge, which just means what he says will be even more tightly controlled.

    If he voices private support then some of his peers, or those in other branches of authority might worry that the mages are trying to subvert parts of the Empire's armed forces and gain sympathisers. Considering the general impression is that a lot of the people in power want to shut down the project for various reasons this could be bad even if it raises Veda and the project's political sway at the same time.

    If he keeps his mouth shut that leaves the only advocates without the Veda Project with field experience with the mages as the JSP, and they don't seem particularly inclined to share their opinions be they good or bad.


    I do hope he lives, which might be colouring my thoughts, he seems to be a genuinely decent person compared to his superiors. He at least seems to view the magic kids as people rather than dangerous assets to be monitored.
    Sanity is nice to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.

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    I find myself oddly fond of Noah, and relate to him on... probably more levels than I should, despite being rather older than him.

    That being said, he really should try to gain at least enough physical fitness to survive the stupid situations he keeps getting into- I think it was just combat training that he was terrifyingly inept at, not more generalized fitness, at least if I'm remembering correctly.

    As a thought, I wonder if Nail's abilities are similar to Burk's at all? Granted, the only reason to think that is because they both fall under the 'nobody has any freaking clue what they are or how they can do what they do', but it'd be interesting if Burk wasn't as unique as he seemed at first.
    Well take Noah's extreme physical ineptness (he can't run five feet without tripping) and then give him a sword. That sounds pretty terrifying to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum Explorer View Post
    Anyways I've got a new quote to use for D&D one day: "How can you collect my bounty when there's no way you'll beat me?"
    Burk got so many great comments in this chapter.
    But this is particularly quotable, yes.

    Kinda arrogant, but he can back it up after all.

    "Just because something can hit me doesn't mean it's somehow my weakness" is a nice one too.

    But really, Burk'd make a terrifying villain for a different story/point of view.
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    Pudu's little speech gave me really strong Dragonball Z vibes, and I frankly loved that entire 'fight.'
    Sanity is nice to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.

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    I do like that this chapter proved what should be obvious from the word go. Burk doesn't use spirit.

    He's essentially Goku. But with two more braincells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -D- View Post
    I do like that this chapter proved what should be obvious from the word go. Burk doesn't use spirit.

    He's essentially Goku. But with two more braincells.
    How does that make him Goku? Goku has a bunch of special techniques, and uses ki all the time. In fact, I can't think of anything unusual about Goku's fighting style beyond how powerful he is.
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    Just for convenience, new chapter starts here.

    I liked how it was a spirit expodump disguised as a Burk fight!

    Plot progression wise: Pablo's OPSEC is ruined, and the talking cat sideplot may get some actual progress.
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    ... I just realized.

    Burk isn't Goku.

    Burk is the Tick. Dropped into an almost Sanderson-esque hard-magic (and I mean that as an unironic compliment- pretty sure that even his detractors concede that Brandon Sanderson does a very good magic system) high fantasy universe, but still retaining a great deal of essential Tick-ness.

    Even if that's not true, it still was a very fun action-exposition chapter.
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