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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Default Re: Vampier: The Masquerade v5

    I've always played it that a Haven is a kindred's home, his sanctuary, and his private domain. Whereas a Domain, capital D, is land-rights granted by the Prince, and which the kindred is responsible for.

    So yes, all Haven's are domain, but not all Domain's are Haven's. For example the Crematorium is my Gangrel's haven, but his Domain is actually a several block area of low income housing, with some mortal gang's upon whom he feeds.

    The Camarilla Tradition of Domain, a kindred's hunting ground is his own territory, and he rules it absolutely. Protects his rights therein, and means you should be aware of other kindred's Domain so as not to give cause for insult.

    I'm not sure a communal Haven is the way to go, as that's a very Sabbat thing. A shared domain, could include much more than the casino though. I'm sure you don't want me Alley Catting your patrons and your revenue stream.

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    Dwarf in the Playground
     
    DrowGuy

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    Default Re: Vampier: The Masquerade v5

    Please put your character on the ooc thread

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    Titan in the Playground
     
    AssassinGuy

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    Default Re: Vampier: The Masquerade v5

    Quote Originally Posted by Zero Prime View Post
    I've always played it that a Haven is a kindred's home, his sanctuary, and his private domain. Whereas a Domain, capital D, is land-rights granted by the Prince, and which the kindred is responsible for.

    So yes, all Haven's are domain, but not all Domain's are Haven's. For example the Crematorium is my Gangrel's haven, but his Domain is actually a several block area of low income housing, with some mortal gang's upon whom he feeds.

    The Camarilla Tradition of Domain, a kindred's hunting ground is his own territory, and he rules it absolutely. Protects his rights therein, and means you should be aware of other kindred's Domain so as not to give cause for insult.

    I'm not sure a communal Haven is the way to go, as that's a very Sabbat thing. A shared domain, could include much more than the casino though. I'm sure you don't want me Alley Catting your patrons and your revenue stream.
    Yup I know. and no thank you in sharing a domain. the idea was a shared locale where we have our own domains (aka. Havens). Like a Hotel-esque Suite Floor with rooms for everyone to have their own place. That was the intent, at least.
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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Default Re: Vampier: The Masquerade v5

    If that's what you want to do, that's cool. However it hits too many of Elijah's paranoia triggers. Sure it's my haven, but the Ventrue's humans have the master keys, and access, which opens my Haven up to the Ventrue's enemies and rivals if they want to **** with him, or just hit him with a loss of face/status.

    I'll keep my Domain closer to low status housing so I don't hit your bottom line either. I'm still open to working with you to clean up the evidence left over from any breaches.

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    AssassinGuy

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    Default Re: Vampier: The Masquerade v5

    Quote Originally Posted by Zero Prime View Post
    If that's what you want to do, that's cool. However it hits too many of Elijah's paranoia triggers. Sure it's my haven, but the Ventrue's humans have the master keys, and access, which opens my Haven up to the Ventrue's enemies and rivals if they want to **** with him, or just hit him with a loss of face/status.

    I'll keep my Domain closer to low status housing so I don't hit your bottom line either. I'm still open to working with you to clean up the evidence left over from any breaches.
    easy peasy. no master key for your room? Install your own type of lock and puzzle-mechanism to open the door?

    Anyways, it was just an offer and later on if there's Crematorium issues, dots can be transferred with GM approval, after all.
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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Default Re: Vampier: The Masquerade v5

    True, true, just flavor-wise it doesn't sit well with me. Plus, I feel, there may be some advantage in maintaining a couple seperate haven's and domain's. Like if a Ventrue rival ousts your Elysium bid, and throws the Casino ownership into lockdown, we can fall back on my feeding grounds, or vice versa.

    As a Gangrel, until I get Earth Meld, I plan on maintaining multiple havens. One of which may be at the Casino, since we do occasional work together.

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    AssassinGuy

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    Default Re: Vampier: The Masquerade v5

    Quote Originally Posted by Zero Prime View Post
    True, true, just flavor-wise it doesn't sit well with me. Plus, I feel, there may be some advantage in maintaining a couple seperate haven's and domain's. Like if a Ventrue rival ousts your Elysium bid, and throws the Casino ownership into lockdown, we can fall back on my feeding grounds, or vice versa.

    As a Gangrel, until I get Earth Meld, I plan on maintaining multiple havens. One of which may be at the Casino, since we do occasional work together.
    And maybe wait until everyone knows eachother a little better, yeh?
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    DrowGuy

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    Default Re: Vampier: The Masquerade v5

    Episode 1 is up on ic thread

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    SamuraiGuy

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    Default Re: Vampier: The Masquerade v5

    As we now have an OOC and IC thread, I'm going to stop following this, so don't be surprised if I don't respond to anything here. Cheers! Looking forward to getting the game started
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