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    Default Re: The Order Of The Shining Plume [OOC]

    Uhm, how do undeads work in this setting?

    As in, is she coming back because one of the so-called acolytes wasn't exactly one? Did the abominations do something? Is it a matter of not wanting to die? Completely up to me?


    And alright, it's not like she could buff herself anyway (aside from her specific class features)
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    Undead tend to be viewed unfavorably, but aren't inherently evil.

    Revenants in particular are simply people who had a strong goal or mission in life, and refuse to let petty things like death stop them. They're viewed with less distaste than other undead, but some amount of fear-it takes a strong will and a strong mission to come back.

    As for the HOW, your soul's been clinging to your body. Choose whenever you'd like to get back up.
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    I feel like if she doesn't stand up now that one of the other PCs is here she'd probably snap the second she realizes she a moving corpse who doesn't feel pain, eat or sleep. Or breath. Well, she'd do it anyway, but it's easier to be calmed down with her friends there.

    EDIT: I really have no idea how to roleplay a recently died undead. Hope the post sounds as cool as I thought.
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    Okay, Cure Wounds and Healing Word exclude undead but Aura of Vitality doesn't.

    Lesser Restoration works, Aid works, Enhance Ability works, sculpt spells still excludes you, seems like we're good to go.
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    Good thing she's a barbarian too, uh? As far as survivability goes, she should be ok. She's not going to pull another stunt like that, though
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    Well that just sounds like cowardice.

    On a semirelated note, how many hit points does Eris have?
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    I still need to update the sheet to 7th level, currently she has 59 hp

    And actually it was more me hoping it doesn't happen again. She might be even more suicidal now. 'Cause she's just a corpse now, from her point of view. It doesn't really matter what happens.

    EDIT: I completely forgot that Gentle Repose blocked undeadification
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmark View Post
    I still need to update the sheet to 7th level, currently she has 59 hp

    And actually it was more me hoping it doesn't happen again. She might be even more suicidal now. 'Cause she's just a corpse now, from her point of view. It doesn't really matter what happens.

    EDIT: I completely forgot that Gentle Repose blocked undeadification
    Let's say Repose blocks MALICIOUS undeadification. Yours is righteous. :P
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    And I was thinking it blocks an undead spirit from being put in your body, while in your case you kept your same spirit.

    That might just be a rewording of the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JNAProductions View Post
    Let's say Repose blocks MALICIOUS undeadification. Yours is righteous. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by Xihirli View Post
    And I was thinking it blocks an undead spirit from being put in your body, while in your case you kept your same spirit.

    That might just be a rewording of the same thing.
    I mean, neither blocks the other, right?

    Let's try this awesome roll with my -1 (I don't get the declare passive and roll active? I'm going to roll arcana in doubt, though she has equal scores)

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    Not sure. I'm going to believe in the heart of my dice that I'll at least get a 5 to beat the easy one. (1d20+7)[12]
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    Default Re: The Order Of The Shining Plume [OOC]

    I mean, tecnically you called the roll perfectly.

    Anyway, updated the sheet! I think that she might have actually survived with the new amount of hit points (and by using Second Wind, which I forgot about. Man, I really made a lot of errors)

    Also, I assume she's now immune to poisons and illnesses, right? (I think those are the only things that require a living organism to work)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmark View Post
    I mean, tecnically you called the roll perfectly.

    Anyway, updated the sheet! I think that she might have actually survived with the new amount of hit points (and by using Second Wind, which I forgot about. Man, I really made a lot of errors)

    Also, I assume she's now immune to poisons and illnesses, right? (I think those are the only things that require a living organism to work)
    Let's go with yes on the immunities.
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    Just realized that Turn Undead forces a wisdom saving throw, which Eris just obtained the proficiency in thanks to the samurai perk. That timing


    On a side note, I always imagined Second Wind to be like the fighter resting a moment to catch his breath...

    "Wait, I need to catch my breath"
    "But you don't breath!"
    "It's a matter of principles"
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    How much arm is remaining? Is it like torn apart at the shoulder or is there a stump remaining wiggling uselessly? 'Cause I was thinking that with gnomes inventors there she could get something mounted on it, like a hook or else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmark View Post
    How much arm is remaining? Is it like torn apart at the shoulder or is there a stump remaining wiggling uselessly? 'Cause I was thinking that with gnomes inventors there she could get something mounted on it, like a hook or else.
    You barely have a stump.
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    She'll have a hook and people will hang their bags on her like an... hanger.

    Joking aside, it's better then a stump wiggling around, looks-wise (not that it's a 5-minutes job that can be done at this moment)
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    Variel is gonna have to do the best Grimaldus impression he can without that armor.

    Some rolls for Mobilization:

    Let's get some Insight if it would help figure out how to motivate people on a case-by-case basis:

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    Example lines depending on how he feels he has to motivate people:

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    "Do you think that rabble of monsters out there will spare you just because you didn't fight? The lives of every man, woman, and child in this city are at stake, including yours. And think of what havoc the enemy could cause in the wider world if they are handed their triumph here."
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    "They're not invincible. They sit outside rather than risk a direct attack, even while their miasma was dulling our wits. Now that our thoughts are our own again, the city is mobilizing. We have a chance, but only if we take it."
    (1d20+7)[10]

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    "Make no mistake—we are in the fight of our lives. Refusal to aid this city in its most desperate need is, at best, suicidal madness. At worst, it is treason. Either will be dealt with accordingly."
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    "My fellow Knights and I came to this city when it was already besieged, and committed ourselves to your aid when we could simply have turned away. Do you understand? I have dug my grave in this place, and I will triumph or I will die. Dare to undermine me, and I will throw you from our walls myself."
    (1d20+10)[15]

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    "Word has been spread to the wider realm. When reinforcements arrive we can crush the enemy between the relief forces and our walls, but only if we hold out until then."
    [We do not know if word has actually reached the wider realm, let alone if reinforcements are actually coming.]
    (1d20+7)[18]

    "Take heart: The Knights of the Shining Plume stand with you and your city."
    [There are just three of us left; as far as any of us know, the Order is finished. And we are not technically Knights.]
    (1d20+7)[12]

    Edit: Figures the Persuasion came out the worst and Intimidation the best.
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    As long as it works! And tecnically the first Deception is not that much of a lie, right? It's more like Schroedingėr's Familiar, you don't know what it's doing until you go see
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    Technically, we have brought the entirety of the Order of the Shining Plume. That's huge, right?
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    Truly, there's no better lie then the truth in this world :p
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    Not sure how much detail you want to go into, because it might be a lot of work for a GM, but how we defend the city and break the siege depends on many factors:

    - Our force size and composition (mostly conscripts with swords and crossbows?)
    - Their force size and composition
    - Food and fresh water supplies for the city
    - Likelihood and ETA of friendly reinforcement
    - Ability of the enemy to reinforce - for example, can steady volleys of spells and arrows whittle them down over time, or will the pieces just get mashed back together into new monsters?
    - Discovery (or not) of the true nature of the enemy creatures and the means of controlling them
    - Ability to use their siege monsters to just batter down the gates and/or walls
    - Ability to prevent the enemy from digging a tunnel, building a ramp, bringing up ladders, etc.
    - Ability to use magic to circumvent the walls, spy on us, or otherwise come up with an unconventional angle of attack
    - Deteriorating morale if the siege drags on
    - Anything else I haven't come up with off the top of my head
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athaleon View Post
    Not sure how much detail you want to go into, because it might be a lot of work for a GM, but how we defend the city and break the siege depends on many factors:

    - Our force size and composition (mostly conscripts with swords and crossbows?)
    - Their force size and composition
    - Food and fresh water supplies for the city
    - Likelihood and ETA of friendly reinforcement
    - Ability of the enemy to reinforce - for example, can steady volleys of spells and arrows whittle them down over time, or will the pieces just get mashed back together into new monsters?
    - Discovery (or not) of the true nature of the enemy creatures and the means of controlling them
    - Ability to use their siege monsters to just batter down the gates and/or walls
    - Ability to prevent the enemy from digging a tunnel, building a ramp, bringing up ladders, etc.
    - Ability to use magic to circumvent the walls, spy on us, or otherwise come up with an unconventional angle of attack
    - Deteriorating morale if the siege drags on
    - Anything else I haven't come up with off the top of my head
    To this we should add if the gnomes managed to do Leflabah's request aka fireballs in bottles.
    ...that's, can't think of anything else that doesn't require an IC (we should check if any "human" enemy is in sight, like Siberia was not long ago)
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    In lieu of a plan, I could just nuke the battlefield every night before bed. That could force them to go on the offensive and weaken their advantage or just result in a lot of them being dead.
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    They fact they're still just sitting there means they either want to preserve their forces and starve us out, confident that no relief is coming, or they have some other trick up their sleeve. While we plan, we'd better get people out there watching for tunneling.

    In fact, I'm gonna go post that IC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athaleon View Post
    Not sure how much detail you want to go into, because it might be a lot of work for a GM, but how we defend the city and break the siege depends on many factors:

    - Our force size and composition (mostly conscripts with swords and crossbows?)
    - Their force size and composition
    - Food and fresh water supplies for the city
    - Likelihood and ETA of friendly reinforcement
    - Ability of the enemy to reinforce - for example, can steady volleys of spells and arrows whittle them down over time, or will the pieces just get mashed back together into new monsters?
    - Discovery (or not) of the true nature of the enemy creatures and the means of controlling them
    - Ability to use their siege monsters to just batter down the gates and/or walls
    - Ability to prevent the enemy from digging a tunnel, building a ramp, bringing up ladders, etc.
    - Ability to use magic to circumvent the walls, spy on us, or otherwise come up with an unconventional angle of attack
    - Deteriorating morale if the siege drags on
    - Anything else I haven't come up with off the top of my head
    Force Size/Composition
    A large militia, and a decent-sized trained army.

    Their Forces
    As far as you can tell, only the abominations remain present, but they have enough to surround the city's walls.

    Water/Food Supplies
    There's an aquifer in part of the city, so water isn't a huge deal. Food is, though-talking to the people in charge, you've got about a month left, stretching it with acolytes and whatnot casting spells.

    Reinforcements
    Did you ever get a message sent? I don't think you did-so reinforcements are not likely.

    Enemy's Reinforcements
    The abominations that have been slain seem to stay dead.

    Abomination Nature
    You've got no idea.

    Siege Monsters
    You'd think the walls would hold pretty well, unless something new shows up.

    Tunnel Prevention
    Indos is built on solid bedrock. So not easy.

    Ladder Prevention
    With the people rallied, that shouldn't be a huge deal.

    Magic Prevention
    That'd require more knowledge of the Slaughterhouse's capabilities, which you lack.

    Morale
    Morale is on a temporary high, as the malaise goes away.

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    Gain Inspiration for being so thorough.
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    I sent a message right after Jack talked to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xihirli View Post
    I sent a message right after Jack talked to us.
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    Default Re: The Order Of The Shining Plume [OOC]

    So there's a certain chance that (it'll never be true but let me dream) there's no Slaughterhouse lieutenant (took me 5 seconds to write it correctly) and an army of mindless monsters which doesn't replenish?

    I'd say ignore the big ones (as in focus on the others, not actually ignore them) and make clean of the other monsters. It might draw out any of the bosses, too.
    Not too keen on holing up and battering with arrows and flames though- while the latter won't really finish the arrows will.

    Think we could craft a tunnel through Idos gate and form a small line in it? Like, channel the swarm through there and murder them some at the time. (How did people get out of sieges irl? Anybody knows?)

    Yes, I'm going to ask IC too (not how people break sieges, the rest of the post)

    Note: I've assumed we're all there
    Last edited by Valmark; 2019-11-19 at 10:04 PM.
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