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Re: The real reason Nale destroyed Mallack (and why he died a true hero)An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.
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Re: The real reason Nale destroyed Mallack (and why he died a true hero)
The question of heroism hinges largely on how they got to that point. The Order inserted themselves into (more direct) danger in order to save the world. Nothing in the narrative implied that the all of the denizens of the world deserved to be murdered in Hel's scheme--and in particular, nothing in the narrative implied that the dwarves deserved to die and be condemned to an eternity of suffering because a lifetime of trying to be honorable was cut short in a not-particularly-honorable way.
We don't know for sure how the feud started between Nale and Malaak, but the narrative has painted Nale as the sort of person who goes looking for trouble and then casts himself as the victim when trouble finds him. Malaak certainly doesn't have clean hands, both in his overt role supporting several murderous, tyrannical empires, and as one of the puppet masters orchestrating the general warfare in the continent. However, despite being very clearly some flavor of Evil, he's always been shown to be personable, loyal, fairly true to his own system of honor, and capable of forming genuine emotional connections with other beings, including his adversaries. Contrast this with the borderline sociopathic Nale who really only has something resembling a genuine friendship with Sabine and the dark elf.
I wouldn't stake my life on Nale being the one who unreasonably started this "life or death" feud, but I'd feel pretty comfortable betting a lot of money on it. To me, the subtext strongly implies that young Nale was probably just lashing out at a father/authority figure who was as close to his own father as possible without actually taking him on directly. Killing someone to protect yourself from their entirely justified revenge killing/capital punishment isn't heroic--it's pretty much the epitome of immoral criminal behavior.
In my opinion, OP does neither of those things. The surprisingly fun discussions that spring up in his threads tend to become interesting and fun in spite of his continued participation, not because of it. Which is a real shame, because there are usually other people in the thread who prove that there are legitimate arguments supporting OPs initial assertion, but usually not someone who is willing to go all-in as an advocate of that position.
Last edited by Xyril; 2019-09-06 at 06:12 PM.