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    Default Sorcerer Origin Spells (As-inspired by the Aberrant Mind)

    As the title says. With the Abberant Mind sorcerer getting access to a list of bonus spells that makes it clearly stronger than any other origin, I took it upon myself to make a similar list of spell(s) for each origin we already have, to make them on par with abberant sorcerers. If your allowing abberant mind sorcerers at your table, I highly suggest also allowing these houserule addition to the exsisting origins, to make them on par with abberant minds. Anyway, with all that out of the way, I give you my Sorcerers Origin Spells

    Spoiler: Dragonic Origin Bonus Spells
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    If using this hosuerule, add the following feature to the Dragonic Sorcerer Origin as a 1st level feature:

    Draconic Spells

    You gain access to bonus spells tied to your Dragon Ancestor (as-per your Dragon Ancestor feature). At 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 9th levels, you gain the spells for your dragon ancestor of those levels as bonus spells known. For you, these spells count as Sorcerer spells, and do not count against your maximum number of spells known (as per-the spells known column of the Sorcerer table). The spells for each Draconic ancestor are listed below:

    Red Dragon

    1st: Cause Fear, Chromatic Orb
    3rd: Dragon Breath, Suggestion
    5th: Fireball, Fly
    7th: Elemental Bane, Wall of Fire
    9th: Dominate Person, Immolation

    Blue Dragon

    1st: Cause Fear, Chromatic Orb
    3rd: Dragon Breath, Suggestion
    5th: Fly, Lightning Bolt
    7th: Elemental Bane, Storm Sphere
    9th: Control Winds, Dominate Person

    Green Dragon

    1st: Cause Fear, Chromatic Orb
    3rd: Dragon Breath, Suggestion
    5th: Stinking Cloud, Fly
    7th: Blight, Elemental Bane
    9th: Cloudkill, Dominate Person

    Black Dragon

    1st: Cause Fear, Chromatic Orb
    3rd: Dragon Breath, Suggestion
    5th: Fly, Vampiric Touch
    7th: Elemental Bane, Vitriolic Sphere
    9th: Dominate Person, Enervation

    White Dragon

    1st: Cause Fear, Chromatic Orb
    3rd: Dragon Breath, Suggestion
    5th: Fly, Sleet Storm
    7th: Elemental Bane, Ice Storm
    9th: Cone of Cold, Dominate Person

    Gold Dragon

    1st: Cause Fear, Chromatic Orb
    3rd: Dragon Breath, Ray of Enfeeblement
    5th: Fireball, Fly
    7th: Elemental Bane, Wall of Fire
    9th: Geas, Immolation

    Silver Dragon

    1st: Cause Fear, Chromatic Orb
    3rd: Dragon Breath, Hold Person
    5th: Fly, Sleet Storm
    7th: Elemental Bane, Ice Storm
    9th: Cone of Cold, Geas

    Copper Dragon

    1st: Cause Fear, Chromatic Orb
    3rd: Dragon Breath, Melf's Acid Arrow
    5th: Fly, Slow
    7th: Elemental Bane, Vitriolic Sphere
    9th: Geas, Legend Lore

    Bronze Dragon

    1st: Chromatic Orb, Thunderwave
    3rd: Dragon Breath, Warding Wind
    5th: Fly, Lightning Bolt
    7th: Elemental Bane, Storm Sphere
    9th: Control Winds, Geas

    Brass Dragon

    1st: Chromatic Orb, Sleep
    3rd: Dragon Breath, Enhance Ability
    5th: Fireball, Fly
    7th: Elemental Bane, Wall of Fire
    9th: Geas, Immolation


    Spoiler: Wild Magic Origin Spells
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    Chaotic Spells

    You gain access to bonus spells that allow you to harness and exploit the primal chaos of the multiverse. At 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 9th levels, you gain the chaotic spells for those levels as bonus spells known. For you, these spells count as Sorcerer spells, and do not count against your maximum number of spells known (as per-the spells known column of the Sorcerer table) The chaotic spells you gain are listed below:

    1st: Chaos Bolt, Color Spray
    3rd: Enlarge/Reduce, Mirror Image
    5th: Blink, Haste
    7th: Polymorph, Dimension Door
    9th: Animate Objects, Mislead


    Spoiler: Divine Soul Origin Spells
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    Affinity Spells

    You gain access to bonus spells that draw on the power of your divine magic affinity (as-per your Divine Magic feature). At 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 9th levels, you gain the spells for your affinity of those levels as bonus spells known. For you, these spells count as Sorcerer spells, and do not count against your maximum number of spells known (as per-the spells known column of the Sorcerer table). The spells for each affinity are listed below:

    Good Affinity

    1st: Guiding Bolt, Healing Word
    3rd: Aid, Prayer of Healing
    5th: Mass Healing Word, Revivify
    7th: Aura of Purity, Death Ward
    9th: Flame Strike, Raise Dead

    Evil Affinity

    1st: Armor of Agathys, Cause Fear
    3rd: Blindness/Deafness, Scorching Ray
    5th: Fireball, Summon Lesser Demon
    7th: Evardís Black Tentacles, Summon Greater Demon
    9th: Dominate Person, Infernal Calling

    Law Affinity

    1st: Command, Shield of Faith
    3rd: Aid, Hold Person
    5th: Counterspell, Dispel Magic
    7th: Guardian of Faith, Otilukeís Resilient Sphere
    9th: Geas, Hold Monster

    Chaos Affinity

    1st: Chaos Bolt, Disguise Self
    3rd: Alter Self, Enlarge/Reduce
    5th: Blink, Haste
    7th: Confusion, Polymorph
    9th: Animate Objects, Mislead


    Spoiler: Shadow Magic Origin Spells
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    Fell Arcana Spells

    You gain access to bonus spells that allow you to harness the fell energies swelling within you. At 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 9th levels, you gain the fell arcana spells for those levels as spells known. For you, these spells count as Sorcerer spells, and do not count against your maximum number of spells known (as per-the spells known column of the Sorcerer table) The fell arcana spells you gain are listed below:

    1st: Cause Fear, False Life
    3rd: Blindness/Deafness, Invisibility
    5th: Fear, Vampiric Touch
    7th: Evardís Black Tentacles, Shadow of Moil
    9th: Enervation, Greater Invisibility


    Spoiler: Storm Sorcery Origin Spells
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    Tempestuous Spells

    You gain access to bonus spells that allow you to harness the primal power of wind, rain, thunder, and lightning. At 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 9th levels, you gain the tempestuous spells for those levels as spells known. For you, these spells count as Sorcerer spells, and do not count against your maximum number of spells known (as per-the spells known column of the Sorcerer table). The tempestuous spells you gain are listed below:

    1st: Fog Cloud, Thunderwave
    3rd: Gust of Wind, Warding Wind
    5th: Call Lightning, Thunder Step
    7th: Elemental Bane, Storm Sphere
    9th: Control Winds, Wrath of Nature
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    Default Re: Sorcerer Origin Spells (As-inspired by the Aberrant Mind)

    Love it. Really wish this was in the game in the first place since 5e came out.
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    Default Re: Sorcerer Origin Spells (As-inspired by the Aberrant Mind)

    Thanks! I edited the spell lists a bit, to make them a bit more viable while also staying on theme. Mainly the Divine Soul and Wild Magic spell lists have been altered a fair bit. I swapped out slow for haste on the Wild Magic list to make it a more tempting pick as a origin due to being fairly unpopular due to the risk it carries. I also altered the Divine Soul affinity spell lists to now all get some baseline healing spells (Healing Word, Prayer of Healing, Mass Healing Word, and Death Ward) along with a handful of "on-theme" spells for the alignments, to go with the 6th level healing focused feature of the divine soul and cement it as the "healer sorc" subclass.

    Good affinity doubles down on healing while also adding in a small handful of "holy radiance" type attack spells in the form of Guiding Bolt and Flame Strike. Evil affinity meanwhile adds minion-mastery to its healing suite, picking up spells to both raise and empower undead, and summon fiends to do their bidding. Law affinity pairs its healing with spells focused on halting, containing, and controlling both creatures and magic (in the form of counterspell), while the chaos affinity pairs its healing with some spells that are simmilar to the chaotic spells of the wild magic sorcerer, as well as a few picks of its own (mainly, confusion) Finally, Shadow's fell arcana spells have been updated to include the new level 1 temporary undead animation spell that evil affinity divine souls also get, and now has been given inflict wounds instead of false life (so they can have a "free" 1st level attack spell) shadow blade instead of blindness/deafness at 2nd level, since desecrate now becomes a useful spell for them when they get it at 2nd due to the new custom 1st level spell they get. Anyway, more comments on this are always welcome!
    Last edited by Giegue; 2019-09-16 at 07:34 PM.
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    Default Re: Sorcerer Origin Spells (As-inspired by the Aberrant Mind)

    I'd say the Divine Soul lists are far too heavy on healing. A sorcerer origin shouldn't shoehorn you into that. If you want to be a healer, you can pick up the relevant spells from the cleric list already. It also makes the alignment lists far too similar. I'd either replace the healing spells from the lists completely, only leave some of them on the Good list, or take another approach completely and let Divine Souls pick a cleric domain and gain its domain spells.

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    Default Re: Sorcerer Origin Spells (As-inspired by the Aberrant Mind)

    The 6th level feature of the subclass already forces them into healing, so thats kind of why I went the route I did. If your not taking some healing on a divine soul, then the 6th level feature becomes dead weight, hence why I decided to give them healing instead of forcing them to spend precious known spells on it. However, if you really think its that much of an issue I can go back to the original divine soul lists, which instead had the only consistent spells between them being spirit guardians and spiritual weapon, which are enough to make each list feel "divine" (which was kind of a goal) but not enough to shoehorn them into a specific role since those spells are just generally good and can work on a number of builds, since pretty much any build would enjoy having that combo, healer, offensive, or otherwise.

    Conversly, an easy way to fix the issue with divine souls is to basicly have another houserule that swaps the 6th level feature for a different one based on affinity choice, which could be an interesting way to fix the problem (I.E. good affinity keeps the heal boost feature, while evil feature say gets to spend sorcery points to allow animate dead to raise more undead with a single cast, lawful gets to twice per short or long rest channel divinity to increase the save DC of one of its affinity spells by 2, and Chaos affinity maybe gets to once per short or long rest roll on the wild magic table to give a creature disadvantage on a saving throw it makes against any spell it casts, not just affinity spells.)
    Last edited by Giegue; 2019-09-16 at 07:43 PM.
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    Default Re: Sorcerer Origin Spells (As-inspired by the Aberrant Mind)

    Quote Originally Posted by Giegue View Post
    The 6th level feature of the subclass already forces them into healing, so thats kind of why I went the route I did. If your not taking some healing on a divine soul, then the 6th level feature becomes dead weight, hence why I decided to give them healing instead of forcing them to spend precious known spells on it. However, if you really think its that much of an issue I can go back to the original divine soul lists, which instead had the only consistent spells between them being spirit guardians and spiritual weapon, which are enough to make each list feel "divine" (which was kind of a goal) but not enough to shoehorn them into a specific role since those spells are just generally good and can work on a number of builds, since pretty much any build would enjoy having that combo, healer, offensive, or otherwise.
    Empowered Healing really only becomes dead weight if you have no healers in the party at all. And given how 5e combat and death works, a Divine Soul could get plenty of mileage out of it themselves with just healing word and prayer of healing. I can understand the concern, though, and the alternate features you suggest look like interesting replacements!

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