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    Nm mine+1 need to handle Trixy.

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    But +1 to your speech part,
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    Erfman smile and nods "Fair enough, thank you both for your time and energy. Perhaps next turn we can discuss spell work as well as juice." he says walking them back to the Portal room. "While you're here you may ask Cadaver here for all the work he has been putting saving the side" he says smiling affably at the caster, "Or if you meet Signamancer Dotti or Shockamancer AC in the MK, as much as the NDA will allow." He continues, then tapping them in the shoulder, "Make yourselves comfortable, Harmony will take care of anything you may need." gesturing towards her "I'll take my leave now, I have work to do" he finishes before returning back to the tower to make the table and chair from tower juice
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    ”very well and thank you both for your time and energy. Perhaps next turn we can discuss spell work as well as juice.” walk them back out and head for the stall.

    Both casters smile and offer a polite nod. ”There’s always a chance...” Roy then replies with a bit of a twinkle in his eye before both turn and head towards the portal.

    Make the foldable table and foldable chair (2 wood, 2 swords, 50J?)
    And charge golems (-130J)

    Then Dotti and AC should have returned, and we discuss Trixie's contract
    Erfman then heads in to his workshop and drawing juice from the tower he quickly creates a simple foldable chair and table out of a couple of units of wood and two old swords. The table is on the rather small side but when folded the chair is able to slip inside the table and both are able to be carried easily by a single unit.

    [2 wood, 2 swords and 25 juice used][Foldable chair and table obtained]

    Erfman then draws yet more juice from the tower and uses it to charge up his golems. Both Woody and Jessie spring to life sitting back up as they once again become active.

    [130 juice used]

    By the time that Erfman has finished in his workshop and comes back down to the portal room he finds that both AC and Dotti have returned and Dotti is currently talking to both Trixy and Harmony.

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    Erfman then comes closer on Harmony's side, not wishing to butt in, waits for when Harmony is not engaged in the conversation to ask "(fill me in?)"

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    Erfman then comes closer on Harmony's side, not wishing to butt in, waits for when Harmony is not engaged in the conversation to ask "(fill me in?)"

    Harmony glances over at Erfman and smiles. ”Oh nothing of importance your highness, we were just engaging in small talk until you were free” Harmony replies.

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    "Then shall we?" Erfman says to the three ladies, gesturing to the chairs around the table, and getting ready to sit himself at the head of the table

    As everyone is comfortably sitting he begins by listing what's known "So, to recap,
    - we shall provide work opportunities over the next 10 turns, of at least 2000 schmucker worth, but likely much more than that. (with provision to transfer the remaining if side falls or time expires)
    - We are already providing, and shall continue indefinitely, upkeep.
    - Schmuker to Rand ratio of 150 to 1.
    This shall be the basis for the contract yes?
    " He finishes enumerating with a calm smile

    "Now, Dotti and AC have a similar verbal contract, and are providing their expertize at a rate of 2 Rands per 100J spent. Would you agree to such a rate as well?" He puts it blandly smiling

    (Only If she haggles or balks)
    Harmony interjects "It would be somewhat disrespectful to fellow casters to demand a higher rate, wouldn't you reconsider, particularly in light of the guaranteed upkeep clause?" (Bonus from room and Harmony FTW! :D)

    "Finally, Trixie McGee shall act as an Ally of Fanon. Shall Dotti pen the contract up?" :)

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    Obligatory +1

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    And +1 as well

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    "Then shall we?" Erfman says to the three ladies, gesturing to the chairs around the table, and getting ready to sit himself at the head of the table.

    Dotti and Harmony take a seat on one side of the table while Trixy sits herself down opposite before Erfman takes his place at the head of the table.

    As everyone is comfortably sitting Erfman begins by listing what's known while Dotti starts to take some notes. "So, to recap,
    - we shall provide work opportunities over the next 10 turns, of at least 2000 schmucker worth, but likely much more than that. (with provision to transfer the remaining if side falls or time expires)
    - We are already providing, and shall continue indefinitely, upkeep.
    - Schmuker to Rand ratio of 150 to 1.
    This shall be the basis for the contract yes?
    " He finishes enumerating with a calm smile.

    ”Now hold up sugar most of that be good and fine but we be having a misunderstanding regarding the value of a rand” Trixy cuts in. ”While a rand might be worth 150 shmuckers to those high and mighty guild folk to me at this time it’s worth more like 130” Trixy declares.

    "Now, Dotti and AC have a similar verbal contract, and are providing their expertize at a rate of 2 Rands per 100J spent. Would you agree to such a rate as well?" He puts it blandly smiling.


    ”Hmmm for juice alone I guess I could live with that... however you want me to take a risk that costs extra, you want me to leave the safety of a city that costs extra, you want me to fight that costs yet more still. And if you want me to use my knowledge, skills or experience for a task that doesn’t use my juice well that might just cost extra too depending on how I’m feeling...” Trixy replies.


    "Finally, Trixie McGee shall act as an Ally of Fanon. Shall Dotti pen the contract up?" Erfman finishes.

    ”Now hold yer hobby horses there” Trixy called out. ”I like Dotti and you seem nice enough but I think your getting a little carried away with the nature of this relationship...” Trixy interjects. ”I’m a contractor and I will be acting as a contractor. I won’t be risking my tushee for you unless I’m getting paid for it understand.” Trixy declares.

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    Erfman nods and restarts "Lets revise and clarify then:
    First two revisions
    - Schmuker to Rand ratio of 130 to 1.
    - Rate of 2 Rands per 100J spent for non-combat castings in Fanon (other situations to be discussed on a case-by-case basis)
    Then a clarification of a misunderstanding
    - My definition of 'Ally' is simply 'acting in good faith and for the benefit of Fanon'; only an actual member of the side is expected to actually risk their tushee for Fanon"
    he smirks slightly

    "Would that be acceptable then?" he finishes serenely

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    I will plus one that

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    Erfman nods and restarts "Lets revise and clarify then:
    First two revisions
    - Schmuker to Rand ratio of 130 to 1.
    - Rate of 2 Rands per 100J spent for non-combat castings in Fanon (other situations to be discussed on a case-by-case basis)
    Then a clarification of a misunderstanding
    - My definition of 'Ally' is simply 'acting in good faith and for the benefit of Fanon'; only an actual member of the side is expected to actually risk their tushee for Fanon"
    Erfman smirks slightly.

    "Would that be acceptable then?" Erfman finishes serenely.

    ”Sure, sure... make it clear that I will only be ‘acting for the benefit of Fanon’ when I have been hired for a specific task and you have yourself a deal!” Trixy declares as she thrusts out her hand.

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    Would that be acceptable then?" Erfman finishes serenely.

    ”Sure, sure... make it clear that I will only be ‘acting for the benefit of Fanon’ when I have been hired for a specific task and you have yourself a deal!” Trixy declares as she thrusts out her hand.


    Caster Trixy when hired will act as a unit of Fancon when hired to do so?

    Work for everyone?

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    "It shall be so" Erfman entones, then calmly turning to Dotti "Will you kindly pen it up upstairs?" motioning towards the tower stairs

    As Dotti goes pen the contract from tower Juice, Erfman lightly inquires "Say, after all that work, do you have any Juice left this turn?"

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    "It shall be so" Erfman entones, then calmly turning to Dotti "Will you kindly pen it up upstairs?" motioning towards the tower stairs.

    Dotti nods and quickly gathers together her notes. ”I shall pen it up immediately, the terms are actually rather straightforward so I should be able to spend the same amount of juice as I would on a non disclosure contract...” Dotti declares before heading out of the room.


    As Dotti goes pen the contract from tower Juice, Erfman lightly inquires "Say, after all that work, do you have any Juice left this turn?" he asks.

    ”Sure sugar, I have 100 juice left... what did you need?” Trixy then asks.

    A short while later Dotti returns with the written out contract and lays it on the table.

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    "Out of the top of our heads? Two things!" Erfman replies brightly and archly

    As Dotti puts down the contract Erfman signs it with a flourish.

    As Trixy signs it, Erfman has The Luggage move into the room.

    "That a look!" He booms "That is one of the apexes of the Side's strategy. Look inside!" as he mentally orders The Luggage to open up facing Trixy
    "Once it was was a simple chest, enchanted with {Carnyed - Bigger on the inside}, and we want to make more chests like that" he finishes looking at her expectantly

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    +1..........

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    "Off the top of my head? Two things!" Erfman replies brightly and archly.

    As Dotti puts down the contract Erfman signs it with a flourish. Trixy then picks up the quill and signs it with equal flourish as Erfman feels the contract come in to effect.

    As Trixy signs it, Erfman has The Luggage move into the room, the many legged golem slowly marching in to place.

    "Take a look!" He booms "That is one of the apexes of the Side's strategy. Look inside!" as he mentally orders The Luggage to open up facing Trixy
    "Once it was was a simple chest, enchanted with {Carnyed - Bigger on the inside}, and we want to make more chests like that" he finishes looking at her expectantly.

    ”I can take a look sugar but I specialise in temporary effects” Trixy replied. ”You want a rule bent for a turn I’m your girl, this... this is not like anything I’ve tried before...” Trixy replies honestly.

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    Erfman smiles “Nothing is ever easy, but success tastes ever sweeter when it comes because of it.” he says almost to himself before continuing “Not to worry, lets analyse our options: You’ve never done something permanent like this before, but could you replicate the effect for 1 turn? In addition, do you know someone who has (done something permanent)? That could teach you, or that you’d consider outsourcing the job to (always for a fee)?” he finishes with a small smile
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    +1


    Also could you for example allow an archer to shoot across a hex boundary or to ignore a mount? What about casting a hobokin across a hex boundary.

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    +1
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    "Other possibilities I'm interested in would be:
    - Could you allow an archer to fire across an hex boundary?
    - What about a hoboken?"
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    {limits to use of this would be, cover in adjoining hex, and archers only popping a limited number of arrows per turn, any extra needing to be manually made; and also could be need to cast on particular hex or on the particular hex boundary}
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    Erfman smiles “Nothing is ever easy, but success tastes ever sweeter when it comes because of it.” he says almost to himself before continuing “Not to worry, lets analyse our options: You’ve never done something permanent like this before, but could you replicate the effect for 1 turn? In addition, do you know someone who has (done something permanent)? That could teach you, or that you’d consider outsourcing the job to (always for a fee)?” he finishes with a small smile.

    ”Replicate it for a turn? Hmmm well I’d have to study this here contraption to work out just what rule is being broken before I could be rightly sure...” Trixy replies with a thoughtful look. ”If it was something simple like a carrying capacity or a passenger limit now that would be something that would be rather simple to get around...” Trixy comments.

    ”Permanency oh sure... what you need is a Master Carny... or an adept... some adepts can do permanency too... I believe old Lou was only an adept” Trixy comments. ”Oh I could ask around the vale, I’m sure I could rustle up someone willing to teach. They’d want paying though and I couldn’t say how long it would take. It’s not something simple like learning a new spell” Trixy replies. ”Again I could ask round the vale for someone looking for a gig but this is a unique piece of work. There may be a face or two that could do it but it’s not necessarily something they have thought about doing before” Trixy comments. ”Would you be willing to let me take the doodad in to the MK so others can take a look?” Trixy then asks.


    "Other possibilities I'm interested in would be:
    - Could you allow an archer to fire across a hex boundary?
    - What about a hoboken?"
    Erfman adds

    Trixy whistles in response to the question. ”You dream big now don’t you sugar!” Trixy declares with a grin. ”Now that’s a big one. Not one I have ever done before but it should be possible. It could be a little tricky and surely would be juice intensive so wouldn’t last too long but yeah I reckon it’s something I could do” Trixy replies. ”I’d be casting on the archer or the bow though... doubt I could do anything to the hex boundary itself” Trixy adds. ”Hoboken? Same principle I’d cast on the caster but it could be even more juice intensive than an archer” Trixy adds.

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    Erfman laughs in delight! “Juice intensive?! How Juice incentive?” He asks with a big grin at the possibilities “Is the simplest rule you can break spell costs 25 Juice? Is 100 Juice intensive enough in your estimate?” he continues
    “And you feel a carnying a caster would cost more than a archer? What about a Knight Archer?” he probes

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    +1..........

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    Erfman laughs in delight! “Juice intensive?! How Juice incentive?” He asks with a big grin at the possibilities “Is the simplest rule you can break spell costs 25 Juice? Is 100 Juice intensive enough in your estimate?” he continues. “And you feel a carnying a caster would cost more than a archer? What about a Knight Archer?” he probes.

    ”Juice cost is a very fluid thing with Carnymancy” Trixy replies. ”There might be a few little tweaks I could make with 25 juice but yes for getting around this archery problem of yours I would want to use atleast 100 Juice” Trixy adds. ”No units types should ALL cost the same. But carnying a spell to go past a hex boundary would likely cost more than carnying ranged attacks to go past.” Trixy explains.
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    "Brilliant!" He says as he claps his hands "Then that's what we'll ask you to do first!.. but later, as you're concerned it might not last a full turn?" He posits

    “And, no, given the recent interferences, The Luggage here cannot go into the MK until we have at least a temporary replacement. So do please do inspect it, as we’ll be relying on you to replicate it temporarily in future turns. Later, any subcontractor would have to come here.” he complements
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    "Brilliant!" He says as he claps his hands "Then that's what we'll ask you to do first!.. but later, as you're concerned it might not last a full turn?" He posits.

    ”Oh don’t worry sugar I don’t think it will start to wear off until you start to use it but I can’t rightly say how long it will last once you do start...” Trixy replies.

    “And, no, given the recent interferences, The Luggage here cannot go into the MK until we have at least a temporary replacement. So do please do inspect it, as we’ll be relying on you to replicate it temporarily in future turns. Later, any subcontractor would have to come here.” he complements.

    ”Sure, sure but I can’t make no promises...” Trixy declares. ”I’ll take a proper look when I’m not busy....” she adds.

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    Okay, now onto the second proposal from us: hustling the Vale for Juice” he prompts with a devious smile

    Either Tower charging or Rand conversions; Either publicly walking towards the Message Boards at noon with other casters; Or secretly at your place. 1 Rand finder’s fee per caster that you manage to bring here, or get to Rand convert in secret. Appealing?” Erfman tops up smiling

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    Okay, now onto the second proposal from us: hustling the Vale for Juice” he prompts with a devious smile

    Either Tower charging or Rand conversions; Either publicly walking towards the Message Boards at noon with other casters; Or secretly at your place. 1 Rand finder’s fee per caster that you manage to bring here, or get to Rand convert in secret. Appealing?” Erfman tops up smiling.

    ”Drumming up business for a cut of the profits? Sure I can do that.” Trixy replies with a smile. ”But what’s the price I’m supposed to be offering them?” Trixy then asks.

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    "The same Dotti is offering." Erfman looks slightly confused "Would you suggest differently?" he asks honestly curious

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