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    Quote Originally Posted by mjp1050 View Post
    Oh, interesting.

    In the Art section, the Giant says that he doesn't want to show the titles of the strips because he considers them to be "bonus jokes."
    But the titles are shown at the bottom of the page now. I wonder what changed?
    Technically, as reads, it's still correct. He still hasn't changed his mind about putting the title above the strips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjp1050 View Post
    In the Art section, the Giant says that he doesn't want to show the titles of the strips because he considers them to be "bonus jokes."
    But the titles are shown at the bottom of the page now. I wonder what changed?
    I suspect technical feasibility was a factor.

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    Just a shout out of appreciation for the recent change to show comic titles below the comics.

    Listing the last couple is also a nice touch for those who stop by intermittently.
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    Default Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas

    Things I maybe should have checked before voting:

    1) Art/General/ "An Order of the Stick Animated Series?" is answered by question 9, not question 4.

    2) The Index was already using the # designation for (most) strip numbers. (There's at least one missing.) Maybe "q9" instead of "#9" to avoid confusion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theangelJean View Post
    Art/General/ "An Order of the Stick Animated Series?" is answered by question 9, not question 4.
    So it is...probably a copy/paste error since I picked the Roy's Boots one for the test superscript. Also because the number for webcomics as a medium was also wrongly shown as 4....Maybe the wrong number on Elan's Mother's (intentionally undecided) name was from a different copy/paste error?

    Anyway, fixed.

    Quote Originally Posted by theangelJean View Post
    2) The Index was already using the # designation for (most) strip numbers. (There's at least one missing.) Maybe "q9" instead of "#9" to avoid confusion?
    The "q" seems to me like it'd be more confusing, honestly; and trying to use some form of the word "question" is liable to disrupt the flow of reading the text, due to the additional horizontal space it'd take, and that would annoy me....Hopefully being a superscript parenthesis at the end of the link will be explanatory enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasdoif View Post
    So it is...probably a copy/paste error since I picked the Roy's Boots one for the test superscript. Also because the number for webcomics as a medium was also wrongly shown as 4....Maybe the wrong number on Elan's Mother's (intentionally undecided) name was from a different copy/paste error?

    Anyway, fixed.

    The "q" seems to me like it'd be more confusing, honestly; and trying to use some form of the word "question" is liable to disrupt the flow of reading the text, due to the additional horizontal space it'd take, and that would annoy me....Hopefully being a superscript parenthesis at the end of the link will be explanatory enough.
    I find that notation such as "Blah Blah BlahQ9" is nice looking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjp1050 View Post
    Oh, interesting.

    In the Art section, the Giant says that he doesn't want to show the titles of the strips because he considers them to be "bonus jokes."
    But the titles are shown at the bottom of the page now. I wonder what changed?

    Well, obviously his mind's changed. I'm wondering what the reason is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jasdoif View Post
    I suspect technical feasibility was a factor.
    Should the quote be removed then, since it's no longer relevant? I mean people might get confused when they are reading the index and see a quote about how the strip titles aren't shown when they are shown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littlebum2002 View Post
    Should the quote be removed then, since it's no longer relevant? I mean people might get confused when they are reading the index and see a quote about how the strip titles aren't shown when they are shown.
    The only counter-argument I have is that it explains why they are at the bottom rather than the top but I recognize I may be reading into things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Throknor View Post
    The only counter-argument I have is that it explains why they are at the bottom rather than the top but I recognize I may be reading into things.
    Well, even in the books the titles have been below the comics, not above them....That said, I'm not opposed to something like retitling the entry as "Why the Strip Titles Weren't on the Comic Page Before".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasdoif View Post
    Well, even in the books the titles have been below the comics, not above them....That said, I'm not opposed to something like retitling the entry as "Why the Strip Titles Weren't on the Comic Page Before".
    I'd rather remove it, myself, but if littlebum and I are in the minority, how about writing "made obsolete by the site redesign of 2020" in red letters, or something along those lines?

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    I'd rather remove it, myself, but if littlebum and me are in the minority, how about writing "made obsolete by the site redesign of 2020" in red letters, or something along those lines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlebum2002 View Post
    Should the quote be removed then, since it's no longer relevant? I mean people might get confused when they are reading the index and see a quote about how the strip titles aren't shown when they are shown.
    I'm in favor of keeping it, actually. Namely, the actual quote implies that technical feasibility wasn't the issue, the Giant just didn't want them shown in the first place. So we still don't know why he changed his mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    I'd rather remove it, myself, but if littlebum and I are in the minority, how about writing "made obsolete by the site redesign of 2020" in red letters, or something along those lines?

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    I'd be in favor of an asterisk that says "Hey, the Giant changed his mind on this, but we're not sure why." Definitely don't remove it, though. Keeping track of how the Giant's views have changed over time is, in my opinion, one of the more interesting aspects of this thread.

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    I would remove, but if not, some way of marking the quote as obsolete makes sense.

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    Okay.

    Why the Strip Titles Aren't Above the Strip
    The titles are "bonus" jokes; The Giant prefers not to put them above the strip itself.
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    Who wants the entry reworded, and who wants the entry removed? The two are not exclusive, of course; I can reword it well in advance of the next update cycle, at which time we could vote on whether or not to remove it.
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    Reword it, please.
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    +1 to reword
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    I am also in favor of rewording. That they are considered bonus jokes is still true.
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    Reword and keep.

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    I vote reword.
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    I, too, would prefer it reworded.
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    The point of the index is to facilitate discussion. If someone asks a question, and the Giant has commented on the point, we can show the comment. It's only worth keeping a comment if there is some small chance that a question will be asked in the future.

    I think the chances of anyone in the future asking a question "Why aren't the titles shown?" is non-existant. Hence there is no point keeping the quote. Can anyone suggest any good reason for keeping it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Miel View Post
    The point of the index is to facilitate discussion. If someone asks a question, and the Giant has commented on the point, we can show the comment. It's only worth keeping a comment if there is some small chance that a question will be asked in the future.
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    Okay; so a reword would be like....

    Why the Strip Titles Weren't On the Strip Pages
    The titles are "bonus" jokes; The Giant prefers not to put them above the strip itself. (As of the 2020 server migration, the strip titles are visible below the strips)
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    Rule C was rescinded a little over five years ago.
    It was rescinded as a rule but it's still the stated intent of the Index to be a research aid for the purpose of forum discussion.

    Over time, we removed (after vote) most of the quotes that became redundant with the comic itself. I see this situation as very similar: The new comic page setup makes the question, and its answer, redundant.

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    I think the chances of anyone in the future asking a question "Why aren't the titles shown?" is non-existant. Hence there is no point keeping the quote. Can anyone suggest any good reason for keeping it?
    Should anybody ask why the titles aren’t included in the printed books.
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    As far as I recall, they are included in the printed books. Small, regular text rather than large bold - but they are included.
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    As far as I recall, they are included in the printed books. Small, regular text rather than large bold - but they are included.
    Yes. Below the strip, and aligned to be next to the comic number.
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    Okay; so a reword would be like....

    Why the Strip Titles Weren't On the Strip Pages
    The titles are "bonus" jokes; The Giant prefers not to put them above the strip itself. (As of the 2020 server migration, the strip titles are visible below the strips)
    #759 2010/11/20

    Am I missing anything?
    Okay then...the entry has been updated.

    Looks like about an even-ish split on whether to vote on removing it, I think....Well, if the locked-post-previews on Patreon are any indication, we're likely to have another set of questions and answers before too long; I'll worry more about it then.
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