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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
I'm against including #6 since it seems like a case of selection bias. Everyone in this strip can break the 4th wall, and if it seems like the main characters break the 4th wall the most often, that's only because they have the most lines.
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
Looks like #6 is the only one dealing with contention, sitting right at the lower edge of automatic inclusion....
Spoiler: Summary# Question In Favor Against Disposition Posters 1 "I've noticed that when someone asks you about your favorite thing you tend to pick something from Good Deeds Gone Unpunished. Is that your favorite story you've written overall?"
(Yes.)8 0 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Precure, Satohika, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor
Against:2 "You said that the Twelve Gods are functionally all true neutral, as their worshippers' alignments average out to true neutral. Does this mean that alignment is roughly evenly distributed in OotS-verse? Are most people true neutral and the other alignments are comparatively uncommon? Or (for example) are most people good and there's a few Xykon-sized outliers bringing down the average?"
(Mostly True Neutral.)10 0 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, b_jonas, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, Satohika, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor
Against:3 "What was the purpose of including Tinkertown? Nothing that happened there had anything to do with the gnomes and could have been in Cliffport instead."
(Sidestepping Cliffport plot threads. With gnomes.)8 1 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor
Against: Satohika4 "Did Thor basically confirm that the movie theater intermission strip is canon?"
(Yes!)8 1 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor
Against: Satohika5 "Was the purpose of the scene with Xykon not being able to taste coffee [that occurs in Start of Darkness] to show that as the moment he became truly irredeemable?"
(Not what I meant.)9 0 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, Satohika, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor
Against:6 "Who can break the Fourth Wall? I thought it was only the main heroes but then I realized that the demon roaches do it alot and so does Thor."
(Anyone.)6 3 Include In Favor: Kish, Sir_Norbert, Precure, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ruck
Against: Fyraltari, Satohika, mjp10507 "You have talked in the past about how Teleport and Resurrection make writing stories in a D&D setting difficult. Are there any other spells or character abilities that you find are constantly getting in your way?"
(Yes.)8 1 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor
Against: Satohika8 "Do you like Denouements? I know that's an abrupt question and obvious lead in to something else, but some people I'm arguing with are saying one of your longest running subplots isn't having its ending foreshadowed and isn't going to have a denouement after the climax."
(Yes.)8 1 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Fve_Abeoreg, Metastachydium, Precure, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor
Against: Satohika10 "All six members of the order have evolved over time. Have any of them become easier or harder to write because of the ways they changed?"
(Harder more often than easier.)8 1 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor
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Spoiler: Breakdown by Poster
Okay, first shot at entries....
Tentative Entries 🍌On Breaking the Fourth Wall(#6)
"Anyone in the comic could theoretically do it...."#1277 2023/03/10 🍌On Denouements(#8)
"So I guess the real question here is, is the subplot you're concerned about necessarily one that I think is important enough to deserve a denouement?"#1277 2023/03/10 🍌On Xykon Losing His Ability to Taste Coffee(#5)
"...the purpose of that scene was more to show Xykon losing touch with his humanity, specifically the way that his biological body may have actually been preventing him from becoming a true monster."#1277 2023/03/10 🍍🍌The Giant's Favorite Book(#1)
Good Deeds Gone Unpunished, for "the freedom to create all-new characters and write plots that only tangentially affected the main storyline of the comic". (Of main storyline books, Blood Runs in the Family, "the most recent one" at the time.)#1277 2023/03/10 🍌The Movie Theater World Is Canon(#4)
#301 and the panel in #1140 are "...something that happened on one of the other worlds before the current one."#1277 2023/03/10 🍌The Purpose of Using Tinkertown(#3)
"It was better to have a fresh location..." instead of reusing Cliffport and having to revisit plot threads.#1277 2023/03/10 🍌Writing Characters As They Have Evolved(#10)
"Everyone except Durkon is harder, because....I often will write a punchline then stare at it and realize that the character can't say that anymore because they grew out of that mindset a while back." "With Durkon....Even just having Minrah there to serve as his cohort sort of automatically gives him something to do."#1277 2023/03/10 🍍🍌D&D Rules that Harm the Story
True Resurrection, and also Teleport. See also here(#7) ("At the power level that the heroes are at right now, there are a lot of 'invisible' spells that would often affect the outcome of a fight. Especially things like fire immunity or mind blank, where having it means being able to completely no-sell an enemy attack. It's become a bit awkward to constantly need to either show those spells being cast or have someone discuss how they have such-and-such a spell running....")#980 2015/04/25 🍍🍌Who Else is Neutral
A long list of Neutral characters in the comic. See also here and here(#2) ("...most normal mortal people are True Neutral...").#903 2013/07/22 FeytouchedBanana eldritch disciple avatar by...me!
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
Meh. Let me add an additional vote in favour of #6.
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
We’ve historically erred, when unsure, on the side of including quotes. If you look at the existing compendium of quotes, you will find a number that may seem trivial, unimportant, or unserious to many eyes. We’ve added them anyway. The fact that someone asked the question and got a non-joke answer indicates it most likely fits the Index’s purpose.
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
Include them all, except the baseball one.
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
the baseball one is not up for inclusion anyway due to the thread rules
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
The summary of #3 is once again lacking gnomes.
(Which, in all seriousness, makes me think I'm reading that answer fundamentally differently from Jasdoif.)Orth Plays: Currently Baldur's Gate II
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
It reads to me like the opening paragraph with the gnomes is comically exaggerated; while the second paragraph about needing a fresh location is serious and level in tone, as well as answering the question asked in a way that suggests that was the primary point...before tying back into gnomes at the end. It's an example of the Giant's exaggeration/caricature-then-serious-then-connect style.
Also it fits easily into the Writing Process section, whereas I'm not sure which category "We hold these gnomes to be self-evident" would really fit into.FeytouchedBanana eldritch disciple avatar by...me!
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
Yes, as I suspected, we're reading it fundamentally differently. Yes, there's some joking exaggeration in the "gnomes, look at their cute hats!" thing. Where we apparently disagree, is whether what's under that joking exaggeration is "Writing gnomes was essentially random, Gnometown's sole function was to be Not-Cliffport" or "I had a lot of fun drawing the gnome scenes and put it there because I correctly predicted I would have a lot of fun writing and drawing gnome scenes...and also, since for some reason the question asker brought up Cliffport, here are the reasons I wasn't going to put in a visit to Cliffport there."
Or to put it another way, there are essentially two questions there: "Why Tinkertown?" and "Why not Cliffport?" You're putting an answer to the one I think is secondary, and entirely dropping the one I think is primary.Last edited by Kish; 2023-03-15 at 11:21 AM.
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
I aggree with Kish; the gnomes seem to be the most important part of the answer.
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
I wouldn't say "essentially random", "because I wanted to draw gnomes" is an entirely valid and specific reason. But I find the "not-Cliffport" answer more significant...Partly because it's the kind of writing process stuff that isn't obvious on the surface, partly because the answer wasn't "Cliffport is on a different continent that's well out of their way" that would be obvious at the time so there's definitely some thought given to this angle.
I'm not opposed to creating two entries for the question, but again I'm not seeing a good category for "not all hats are created equal, these were endowed by their creator with certain unalienable adorableness" o_oFeytouchedBanana eldritch disciple avatar by...me!
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
Writing, along with every other time the answer to a question amounts to, "I wrote/drew that because it was fun for me to write/draw."
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
Spoiler: Summary# Question In Favor Against Disposition Posters 1 "I've noticed that when someone asks you about your favorite thing you tend to pick something from Good Deeds Gone Unpunished. Is that your favorite story you've written overall?"
(Yes.)10 0 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Precure, Satohika, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ron Miel, ti'esar
Against:2 "You said that the Twelve Gods are functionally all true neutral, as their worshippers' alignments average out to true neutral. Does this mean that alignment is roughly evenly distributed in OotS-verse? Are most people true neutral and the other alignments are comparatively uncommon? Or (for example) are most people good and there's a few Xykon-sized outliers bringing down the average?"
(Mostly True Neutral.)12 0 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, b_jonas, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, Satohika, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ron Miel, ti'esar
Against:3 "What was the purpose of including Tinkertown? Nothing that happened there had anything to do with the gnomes and could have been in Cliffport instead."
(Sidestepping Cliffport plot threads. With gnomes.)10 1 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ron Miel, ti'esar
Against: Satohika4 "Did Thor basically confirm that the movie theater intermission strip is canon?"
(Yes!)10 1 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ron Miel, ti'esar
Against: Satohika5 "Was the purpose of the scene with Xykon not being able to taste coffee [that occurs in Start of Darkness] to show that as the moment he became truly irredeemable?"
(Not what I meant.)11 0 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, Satohika, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ron Miel, ti'esar
Against:6 "Who can break the Fourth Wall? I thought it was only the main heroes but then I realized that the demon roaches do it alot and so does Thor."
(Anyone.)9 3 Include In Favor: Kish, Sir_Norbert, Precure, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ruck, Tzardok, Ron Miel, ti'esar
Against: Fyraltari, Satohika, mjp10507 "You have talked in the past about how Teleport and Resurrection make writing stories in a D&D setting difficult. Are there any other spells or character abilities that you find are constantly getting in your way?"
(Yes.)10 1 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ron Miel, ti'esar
Against: Satohika8 "Do you like Denouements? I know that's an abrupt question and obvious lead in to something else, but some people I'm arguing with are saying one of your longest running subplots isn't having its ending foreshadowed and isn't going to have a denouement after the climax."
(Yes.)10 1 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Fve_Abeoreg, Metastachydium, Precure, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ron Miel, ti'esar
Against: Satohika10 "All six members of the order have evolved over time. Have any of them become easier or harder to write because of the ways they changed?"
(Harder more often than easier.)10 1 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ron Miel, ti'esar
Against: Satohika
Spoiler: Breakdown by Poster
The category with more subcategories than the Patreon post has questions? That may not have been as helpful as you expected
Tentative Entries 🍌On Breaking the Fourth Wall(#6)
"Anyone in the comic could theoretically do it...."#1277 2023/03/10 🍌On Denouements(#8)
"So I guess the real question here is, is the subplot you're concerned about necessarily one that I think is important enough to deserve a denouement?"#1277 2023/03/10 🍌On Introducing Gnomish Islands(#3)
"...I saw an opening to draw an adorable town of steampunk gnomes and I took it."#1277 2023/03/10 🍌On Xykon Losing His Ability to Taste Coffee(#5)
"...the purpose of that scene was more to show Xykon losing touch with his humanity, specifically the way that his biological body may have actually been preventing him from becoming a true monster."#1277 2023/03/10 🍍🍌The Giant's Favorite Book(#1)
Good Deeds Gone Unpunished, for "the freedom to create all-new characters and write plots that only tangentially affected the main storyline of the comic". (Of main storyline books, Blood Runs in the Family, "the most recent one" at the time.)#1277 2023/03/10 🍌The Movie Theater World Is Canon(#4)
#301 and the panel in #1140 are "...something that happened on one of the other worlds before the current one."#1277 2023/03/10 🍌The Purpose of Using Tinkertown(#3)
"It was better to have a fresh location..." instead of reusing Cliffport and having to revisit plot threads.#1277 2023/03/10 🍌Writing Characters As They Have Evolved(#10)
"Everyone except Durkon is harder, because....I often will write a punchline then stare at it and realize that the character can't say that anymore because they grew out of that mindset a while back." "With Durkon....Even just having Minrah there to serve as his cohort sort of automatically gives him something to do."#1277 2023/03/10 🍍🍌D&D Rules that Harm the Story
True Resurrection, and also Teleport. See also here(#7) ("At the power level that the heroes are at right now, there are a lot of 'invisible' spells that would often affect the outcome of a fight. Especially things like fire immunity or mind blank, where having it means being able to completely no-sell an enemy attack. It's become a bit awkward to constantly need to either show those spells being cast or have someone discuss how they have such-and-such a spell running....")#980 2015/04/25 🍍🍌Who Else is Neutral
A long list of Neutral characters in the comic. See also here and here(#2) ("...most normal mortal people are True Neutral...").#903 2013/07/22 FeytouchedBanana eldritch disciple avatar by...me!
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
I think it fits reasonably well into Writing Process, Reflections from the Author or Real World Intent.
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
I support the inclusion of gnomes.
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
It seems your definition of "actually read" is tautological. "Anyone who actually read the strip would have concluded this; the definition of having 'actually read' the strip is that the reader concluded the same things I did."
Anyway, agreed with Kish that the info about gnomes should be in there because I think Rich was being pretty clear that he thought they were fun to write and draw. And I suppose I'll vote to include all from this round of questions as well.
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
I don't think we should have two separate entries for #3. "The giant didn't want to revisit dangling Cliffport plot lines, but did want to draw cute steampunk gnomes" or something similar.
Also #4 should reflect that while snackworld is now officially part of the multiverse, he didn't think of it as such when he first made the strip..
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
Spoiler: Summary# Question In Favor Against Disposition Posters 1 "I've noticed that when someone asks you about your favorite thing you tend to pick something from Good Deeds Gone Unpunished. Is that your favorite story you've written overall?"
(Yes.)11 0 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Precure, Satohika, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ron Miel, ti'esar, Ruck
Against:2 "You said that the Twelve Gods are functionally all true neutral, as their worshippers' alignments average out to true neutral. Does this mean that alignment is roughly evenly distributed in OotS-verse? Are most people true neutral and the other alignments are comparatively uncommon? Or (for example) are most people good and there's a few Xykon-sized outliers bringing down the average?"
(Mostly True Neutral.)13 0 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, b_jonas, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, Satohika, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ron Miel, ti'esar, Ruck
Against:3 "What was the purpose of including Tinkertown? Nothing that happened there had anything to do with the gnomes and could have been in Cliffport instead."
(Sidestepping Cliffport plot threads. With gnomes.)11 1 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ron Miel, ti'esar, Ruck
Against: Satohika4 "Did Thor basically confirm that the movie theater intermission strip is canon?"
(Yes!)11 1 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ron Miel, ti'esar, Ruck
Against: Satohika5 "Was the purpose of the scene with Xykon not being able to taste coffee [that occurs in Start of Darkness] to show that as the moment he became truly irredeemable?"
(Not what I meant.)12 0 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, Satohika, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ron Miel, ti'esar, Ruck
Against:6 "Who can break the Fourth Wall? I thought it was only the main heroes but then I realized that the demon roaches do it alot and so does Thor."
(Anyone.)9 3 Include In Favor: Kish, Sir_Norbert, Precure, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Tzardok, Ron Miel, ti'esar, Ruck
Against: Fyraltari, Satohika, mjp10507 "You have talked in the past about how Teleport and Resurrection make writing stories in a D&D setting difficult. Are there any other spells or character abilities that you find are constantly getting in your way?"
(Yes.)11 1 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ron Miel, ti'esar, Ruck
Against: Satohika8 "Do you like Denouements? I know that's an abrupt question and obvious lead in to something else, but some people I'm arguing with are saying one of your longest running subplots isn't having its ending foreshadowed and isn't going to have a denouement after the climax."
(Yes.)11 1 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Fve_Abeoreg, Metastachydium, Precure, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ron Miel, ti'esar, Ruck
Against: Satohika10 "All six members of the order have evolved over time. Have any of them become easier or harder to write because of the ways they changed?"
(Harder more often than easier.)11 1 Include In Favor: Fyraltari, Kish, Sir_Norbert, Metastachydium, Precure, mjp1050, Gwynfrid, Throknor, Ron Miel, ti'esar, Ruck
Against: Satohika
Spoiler: Breakdown by Poster
I rather like the cleanliness of two "fundamentally different" answers having their own entry, myself...what's everyone else think?
Doesn't seem that important to note, as it looks like by the time we knew there was more than one previous world it was "always" one of them...and/or I just like how smoothly that entry currently reads...again, what's everyone else think?
In any case, seems entries are mostly ironed out, so the current state with categories and stuff is....
Spoiler: Alignment
Specific Characters Neutral Characters 🍍🍌Who Else is Neutral
A long list of Neutral characters in the comic. See also here and here(#2) ("...most normal mortal people are True Neutral...").#903 2013/07/22
Spoiler: Story, Plot, and Characters
Reading Too Much Into It 🍌On Breaking the Fourth Wall(#6)
"Anyone in the comic could theoretically do it...."#1277 2023/03/10
Spoiler: Writing
Writing Process 🍌On Introducing Gnomish Islands(#3)
"...I saw an opening to draw an adorable town of steampunk gnomes and I took it."#1277 2023/03/10 🍌The Purpose of Using Tinkertown(#3)
"It was better to have a fresh location..." instead of reusing Cliffport and having to revisit plot threads.#1277 2023/03/10 🍍🍌D&D Rules that Harm the Story
True Resurrection, and also Teleport. See also here(#7) ("At the power level that the heroes are at right now, there are a lot of 'invisible' spells that would often affect the outcome of a fight. Especially things like fire immunity or mind blank, where having it means being able to completely no-sell an enemy attack. It's become a bit awkward to constantly need to either show those spells being cast or have someone discuss how they have such-and-such a spell running....")#980 2015/04/25
Forum and Reader Reactions 🍌On Denouements(#8)
"So I guess the real question here is, is the subplot you're concerned about necessarily one that I think is important enough to deserve a denouement?"#1277 2023/03/10
Story Development 🍌The Movie Theater World Is Canon(#4)
#301 and the panel in #1140 are "...something that happened on one of the other worlds before the current one."#1277 2023/03/10 🍌Writing Characters As They Have Evolved(#10)
"Everyone except Durkon is harder, because....I often will write a punchline then stare at it and realize that the character can't say that anymore because they grew out of that mindset a while back." "With Durkon....Even just having Minrah there to serve as his cohort sort of automatically gives him something to do."#1277 2023/03/10
Reflections from the Author 🍍🍌The Giant's Favorite Book(#1)
Good Deeds Gone Unpunished, for "the freedom to create all-new characters and write plots that only tangentially affected the main storyline of the comic". (Of main storyline books, Blood Runs in the Family, "the most recent one" at the time.)#1277 2023/03/10
Spoiler: Spoilers from Book/PDF Content
Spoiler: Start of Darkness
Start of Darkness 🍌On Xykon Losing His Ability to Taste Coffee(#5)
"...the purpose of that scene was more to show Xykon losing touch with his humanity, specifically the way that his biological body may have actually been preventing him from becoming a true monster."#1277 2023/03/10
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Both views are in the same category, Writing Process. Having the quote twice side by side feels like clutter to me. Your summary with both perspectives is excellent, I would stick to it.
Doesn't seem that important to note, as it looks like by the time we knew there was more than one previous world it was "always" one of them...and/or I just like how smoothly that entry currently reads...again, what's everyone else think?DM in Mummy's Mask I, II, III | Keshkaru and Ozkrak in Extinction Curse | Marzena in Age of Worms | Elrembriel in Wrath of the Righteous | Gurmok in Nightmare in Katapesh | DM in Catacombs of Ravenloft Avatar courtesy of Neoseph7
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
Hmm...it did look nicer when I thought there would be other strips added into Writing Process separating the two. Okay, how about this?
🍌The Purpose of Creating Tinkertown(#3)
Instead of having to revisit plot threads tied to e.g. Cliffport, "It was better to have a fresh location, and since it needed to be somewhere that could service the Mechane, I came up with the idea of a town of gnomes."#1277 2023/03/10 FeytouchedBanana eldritch disciple avatar by...me!
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
I, also, prefer the cleanliness of two "fundamentally different" answers having their own entry.
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
I think to better get to the heart of the answer "I saw an opening to draw an adorable town of steampunk gnomes and I took it" should fit in there somehow. Just in the sense that Rich makes it clear he thought that would be fun to draw and as much as anything that's why he included Tinkertown.
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
Hmm....
🍌The Purpose of Creating Tinkertown(#3)
Instead of having to revisit plot threads tied to e.g. Cliffport, it "was better to have a fresh location"; and then the Giant "saw an opening to draw an adorable town of steampunk gnomes".#1277 2023/03/10 FeytouchedBanana eldritch disciple avatar by...me!
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
Personally, I think it's the most interesting part.
The fact that the snacks are officially one of the former worlds is clearly stated in the strip itself, and doesn't really need the Giant to confirm it. Barely worth including.
The fact that he hadn't planned it as such, but made the connection later, is much more interesting, and certainly worth including..
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