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    Bugbear in the Playground
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    Default Opportunity attacks for Spellcasters

    Hello,

    Do I understand correctly that RAW a Spellcaster without the Warcaster feat can not cast even a Cantrip as a melee Opportunity Attack?

    Assuming they can not, are there any RAI or excuses for allowing it w/o the feat?

    The Opportunity Attack rules as written use the word melee and I have read it as being a weapon attack but some spells lile Vampiric Touch reference melee SPELL attacks.

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    DruidGuy

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    Default Re: Opportunity attacks for Spellcasters

    Making a melee attack is different from casting a spell.

    By RAW and RAI a spellcaster without War Caster can perform an Opportunity Attack by attacking with his weapon if he/she wields one or with an unarmed strike if it's unarmed.
    Last edited by Trandir; 2019-11-12 at 06:13 PM.

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    SolithKnightGuy

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    Default Re: Opportunity attacks for Spellcasters

    I'd allow it but only if the damage was as though a 1st level caster cast it.
    No need for a level 17 cleric tanking it up with Spirit Guardians, Spiritual Weapon, and Toll the Dead get another 4d12+5 (with Potent Spellcasting) Toll the Dead cast when the fighter is limited to a 1d8+9 (with a +2 longsword and the dueling style) or what have you.
    The cleric will just have to suffer the terrible stress of taking a feat to get the extra damage. Poor cleric.

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    Default Re: Opportunity attacks for Spellcasters

    Yeah, you gotta make an attack with a weapon or unarmed strike. Spells don't work, without Warcaster.

    And that's fine.
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    RedWizardGuy

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    Default Re: Opportunity attacks for Spellcasters

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkVIIIMarc View Post
    Hello,

    The Opportunity Attack rules as written use the word melee and I have read it as being a weapon attack but some spells lile Vampiric Touch reference melee SPELL attacks.
    At first i was gonna say, of course you can't, RAW and RAI. But since you mention Vampiric Touch specificaly, i think i'd let that one work. IF it's already casted. At that point, you're just doing the basic one action=one vampiric touch, not actually casting.

    For sure, i wouldn't let someone cast a cantrip as an opportunity attack, that's exactly what the feat is for.

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