OOTS #290 - The Discussion Thread

[Nyax]

Wooooo Monday double lenght update! This one answers sooo many questions, makes the plot almost run, and is a new source for cool quotes, "You might want to begin to prepare yourself for disappointment". lol

[Antina]

Really didn´t see that one coming!
Nicely done!
Thanx a lot for the fun :)

Hell - such a long wait for the next book of yours... (oh - and please advertice it to amazon, so it might be a lot easyer to get)

[themunck]

Good one, Rich. Iys really hard to draw a stick figure with his hands behind his back.

[Albion]

First feelings: WOH HOO! BRILLIANT!!! ;D

And I guess you'll have to do with that as my comment this time...

[rohanvos]

Giant,

I wish that I could be a player in one of your campaigns, your ability to mislead the players and skillfully tie up loose ends is quite simply amazing.

[Overlord Jack Chainer]

I have to agree with rohanvos you are indeed great

[Darius Midnite]

Well done kind sir!
You have fooled us all with you brilliant plots and other....stuff..
Well it was good though...

[JessmanCA]

wordy perhaps, But this time very necessary. It made the plot more intriguing.

[Swashbuckler]

Out-freakin'-standing comic!! ;D ;D ;D

Plots revealed!

Snarky comments!

Relational apparitions (and the 'Patrick Swayze' line was priceless)!

... and, of course, more Mr. Scruffy! ;D


*contented sigh* I've never been so happily addicted.

[Marller]

Very good comic. ;D

Now, I have not been part of the discussion on Lord Shojo's alleged paladin status before, so forgive me if this has already been elaborated, but would it not be reasonable to assume that the Sapphire Guard indeed know that Shojo is not a paladin, but that he can still be leader of the order? Obviously, they would assume that he is LG, while he probably is NG, but that is a minor difference.

You are right, that they know of course. He is leader of the Sapphire Guard due to inheritance and not because of his alignment or class. They don't know that he is only playing the senility.

[Kord]

It is always good to have strips like these that are so interesting because they answer so many questions. It provides a mix between strips that are all based around one almost pointless joke and don't really have anything to do with the plot, though those are still incredibly funny! :)

[codemartin]

Me like, Me like alot ;D

Anyway dont worry gaint I am sure most people like wordy, I know I do.

Lets count how many quotes use this comic...

Woot page nine.

[TinSoldier]

Yet another post in a long line of posts saying "Awesome comic, Giant!"

I must be slow, I thought the Patrick Swayze comment was funny even before remembering the movie Ghost. But then one poster mentioned Ghost Dad (a terrible Bill Cosby movie) and I thought that was funny as well.

There are just too many good lines and panels in this update to pick just one or two!

[KaosDevice]

Angry Roy = always funny.

[Quinton250]

Could someone explain this to me, it doesn't make sense...

Roy says

"For example: You JUST told me that you didn't learn any information on who burned down Lirian's Gate... but you now claim to have known about us before you unleashed Miko."

"So Which one is the lie?"


I don't see how those two things contradict each other at all, they seem unrelated.

[Sylian]

Could someone explain this to me, it doesn't make sense...

Roy says

"For example: You JUST told me that you didn't learn any information on who burned down Lirian's Gate... but you now claim to have known about us before you unleashed Miko."

"So Which one is the lie?"


I don't see how those two things contradict each other at all, they seem unrelated.

Why should he know things about one thing and nothing about the other?
There has to be a reason, or either:
1. He did know about Lirian's gate.
2. He didn't know about either gate.
But, he showed us why he knew about the Order of the Stick but not Redcloak.

[Gary_Schaper]

"For example: You JUST told me that you didn't learn any information on who burned down Lirian's Gate... but you now claim to have known about us before you unleashed Miko."

"So Which one is the lie?"


I don't see how those two things contradict each other at all, they seem unrelated.

The implicit explanation for why he didn't know about Lirian's Gate before he sent the paladins would be Soon's oath. It prevents those who swear it from trying to find out information about the other gates unless the gates are destroyed. Shojo may not respect the oath, but the paladins who work for him do, so it restricts him just the same.

So, Shojo wouldn't have known anything about Dorukan's gate, other than the fact of its destruction, until he sent paladins there as well. Except that Greenhilt Sr. showed up very shortly to inform him.

[Waf]

I'm impressed, Giant you really had me stumped on how Kraagor had gotten a gate till I went back and found Lirian had made her gate a tomb for Kraagor.

[Gary_Schaper]

I must say that I'm a little bit disillusioned by the revelations here. All along I've felt that the Order's capture was justified, and while it was, technically, Shojo didn't order it because it was justified; he ordered it because he wanted to coerce the Order.

Now, I kind of LIKE sneaky Shojo better than lawful Shojo, but I'm irritated that I really shouldn't like him because of the way he's been yanking the Order around.

[whitemane]

Wow.... Awesome comic! Let me just add that this would also make a really cool adventure!

[Jacklu]

That was AWSOME!!! I don't know how you do it Giant, they just get better and better. I laughed so hard when the Being of Ultimate good turned out to be Roy's dad. I never saw it coming! I love the part about the paladins not having any rank in search.! ;D

[kriklaf]

I'm wiping tears of laughter off my face right now...this one was truly a gem. I can't decide which is funnier: the little signs over Redcloak's leavings or "Patrick Swayze." Patrick Swayze?! WTF?!! It's perfect for Roy's dad being a crotchety old fart who's 15 years or so behind on his knowledge of heartthrob movie stars (my apologies if Rich still thinks Mr. Dirty Dancing is a stud...to each his own;))

Great job, Giant!

[myomer]

Soon as I saw that spirit of a jury at the beginning of the trial I thought "this is going to be funny if it's Roy's dad."

I KNEW IT! ;D

And for some reason, "the day your bard blew up Dorukan's Gate" sounded funny to me.

Spoiler:





As to plot.... looks like the lich has been busy as well eh? Wonder why he wants to blow up every gate....

<errr take that back read past comics....... never mind on the spoiler.>

[Crazy_Uncle_Doug]

I'd been wondering what Roy's dad has been doing all this time. We hadn't seen him at all, even after the first defeat of Xykon, and I was thinking all this time: Why doesn't Dad show up and berate Roy for assuming the job is done when it's not? Now we know! (And knowing is half the battle.) I didn't expect this, but it felt good; it made sense.

Poor Miko was duped all along, and though her attitude and methods are heavy-handed, I liked her in a misguided overzealous paladin way. I hope we see more of her continued descent, and maybe even see her eventually redeem herself. Redemption stories are one of my favorites.

[rohanvos]

I think that the evil old litch is not necessarily trying to destory them, but rahter is trying ot harness the power of the snarl. Unfortunately he hasn't had much success since red cloak burned down the first one, and Elan blew up the second one that had the perfect defense of requiring a good aligned character to activate it.

[rohanvos]

Or Miko could always become a corrupted avenger. I thnk that is what the new prestige class that is for paladin that go over the edge in terms of destroying their enemies.

[danb]

Or Miko could always become a corrupted avenger.

But would she wear the leather catsuit? Or a bowler hat instead perhaps?

;)

[Daavi_Tues]

I love you, mister Giant.

Will you marry me?

[Coldwind]

Shojo has lots of similarities with Palpatine, except he's not evil but good.

Good strip.

[Rethorn]

Holy crap, great comic Giant. :) Well worth the wait.