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    "It all worked out in the end, so no hard feelings." The family seems properly take care of, at least for the near future, which prompts a smile from the healer. "It may be best if we move on," Thaum suggests, given they are looking for a cure under time pressure.

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    Ready to move on into the direction Nahscha indicated for Wisp's location.

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    "Oh, right.. good point. I just thought you seemed a little tuckered out..." Larimar says with some small amount of disappointment.
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    Zanthia seems a touch disappointed that Thaum dried off her so quickly, yes the water could be uncomfortable but making a good trade off on appearance. Oh well, make the best of things.

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    Nahscha seems happy with sleeping for a while now, she closes her eyes and let's you do your thing.

    You come to a pretty wide Stone Bridge the roaring of the waterfall seems distant and high above you you can see a little opening where some natural sunlight falls down. You can also see a strange creature floating around in the natural sunlight it seems like a white cloud with eyes floats around, some crystals half-attached to his body. It seems to float around, inspecting the wall, but takes pain to stay in the sunlight falling down from above. Suddenly there is a voice in your mind. It's especially unintrusive and even without being especially trained you could block it out if you wish too.

    WISP: So many time has gone past, I wonder I wonder… I have never seen that beast again, could it gobble me up now, was it fate when it did?

    The sprite doesn't seem to really notice you and instead still floats above you.

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    And there is Wisp. No more monsters, thankfully.

    "Good day to you. We were sent by the High Priest of Wendel. He asks for your help in saving King Chanterelle's life. Would you be willing to come with us to Wendel?" Thaum asks the sprite as he looks up to it. Might as well get to the point so Wisp knows what this is about when faced with a sudden group of warriors, rogues, and mages.

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    Zanthia steps up with Thaum, echoing his words, but also displaying the symbol to let Wisp know that they are really who they say they are, and not just a bunch of ragamuffins.

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    Coney stares up at the spirit, intrigued. The association with sunlight - was it protective? Nourishing? Did it keep it from turning into a ravening beast?

    "And of course we'd be happy to offer any help to you in return. Are you...is everything all right?"

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    The sprite focuses his attention to the party when spoken too.

    WISP: Ohh, good day to you too, I'm afraid I haven't noticed you.

    Wisp is gliding down to the party, it seems to hesitate a smidgeon of a moment before leaving the circle of sunlight that came down from above to be in comfortable discussion distance. Thankfully it doesn't seem to transform in a ravashing beast but the inner light it seems to produce dim a bit and the voice that seems to echo in your heads does have a slight strain. It may remind you of someone who does walk fast and still talks with someone.

    WISP: The high priest has send to me because he couldn't save someones life? That's really concerning. Despite the words Wisp spoke the tone the words carry seems to be kinda emotionless. It also seems impossible to read the intentions of this sprite.

    Wisp focuses his attention on the statue Zanthia is holding.

    WISP: That is his, he would not give that to just anyone. Your case seems to be very serious.

    Finally Wisp looks at Coney and this time her words has a slight echo of an Emotion. It may be happyness?

    WISP: That's so nice of you too offer me something in return. But it's alright mother of farrow's. If E... The high priest can't handle it alone it must be very serious.

    Wisp looks at everyone of the party and seems to come to a decision.

    WISP: I'll follow you out. Do you have the capacity to get up there or do we have to walk?

    The spot with the sunlight is maybe between 600 and 800 feet away from you and the walls following up there get more and more steep.

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    Larimar observed the events unfolding. Something didn't quite seem right about this. The sprite wisp, he wasn't sure if having crystals about it was normal, for one thing.

    "It's quite a bit far away, and I doubt any of us have rope long enough to ensure everyone can get out..." Maybe there was a way to do it though. Seemed Aned could fly and he wasn't such a bad climber.

    "If you don't mind my asking, what brought you here? You seem very troubled by something..."
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    Larimar's words seem to produce a great mental sigh from Wisp, you're not sure but they may be some glistening stuff on her eyes. Her "voice" is also now more loaded with emotion, most likely sorrow and nostalgia.

    WISP: Oh, I was just here to relive some old times. It has been some years and instead of visiting the others I thought I may swing by here. To remember where I met them.

    Wisp doesn't explain herself further but rather changes the subject.

    WISP: If not all of you can't get out from up there I should take residence inside one of you, I'm not really fond of the dark and it would be easier for me. I promise to be as noninvading as possible.
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    Memories of the heroes, perhaps? Thaum vaguely remember something about them having been active in this area, but cannot really put his finger on it.

    "I see. Climbing this far up, and more importantly, back down again would be quite challenging. You can reside inside me, if you would like, though my essence is shifted towards Undine, so I do not know if this would cause you discomfort in some fashion." So far, there has been little in the way of answers in regards to what effects Thaum's peculiar state may have.

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    Aned stares as they encounter Wisp; it isn't the first time she's been in the presence of a being of such sublime elemental purity, but she hopes it never stops instilling a sense of wonder in her. She bows her head in response to the spirit. "Thank you for answering our plea, Wisp. We shall ensure your safe passage to the High Priest." she says, before looking at the others. "Now that the waterfall is of no concern to me, I could float down ahead of the party and see if Jerry has returned to cause any further trouble for us."
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    Sensing some kind of connection with the spirit, Coney steps forward hesitantly. The Rabite's ears are twitching, but she seems to reach a conclusion.

    "If it would make the journey safer or more comfortable for you, I would be honoured to be your host."

    Through her long work in learning how to lure the spirits of the ancients into herself, Coney had become more than accustomed to 'passengers' of one kind or another. It would be interesting to see how it felt to have a more active partner...and to see how Wisp interacted with Naberius.
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    Larimar contemplated letting the wisp reside inside him, but others immediately offered. Maybe it was better to let them if they were so eager...

    With the top exit too far away, he was fairly set upon going back down the way they came.
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    Wisp floats around the Party while talking.

    To Ridai.

    WISP: I'm in alliance with Undine but she has marked you heavily and I would not like too give her a wrong impression.

    To Aned.

    WISP: That's good, it has been a long time since I've been escorted, I shall be a good guest.

    To Coney.

    WISP: You are as graceful as ever, but I fear with your current occupation I could disrupt your capabilities.

    Wisp flies past Larimar and Rina but doesn't say anything. She stops by Zanthia and comes nearer and circles her head a few times, slowly then she stops.

    WISP: May I?

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    Zanthia takes a few steps back from Wisp. I would rather you didnt, unless it is absolutely necessary for the mission. Ive had only bad experiences from someone being in my head. Thaum knows to what Zanthia is referring, and also left unsaid by her is that she has some idea of what the more powerful and unprincipled members of her Coven can do with unrestricted access to a person's mind.
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    Seeing the wisp pass the first two up and Zanthia refusing, Larimar steps forward and hesitantly says, "Uhh, I guess I'll volunteer then. Though I hope the experience won't be too strange or intrusive..."
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    Rina blinks. Not that she wanted someone else riding along in her noggin given the givens, but to be ignored out of turn like that...

    Something doesn't feel right about any of this... this Elemental spirit--if that's what it is-- seemed relatively easy to find; apart from the fight with Jerry a resourceful messenger could have made it down here...

    She sniffs again at Wisp as she passes, but gives the being a long hard look.

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    "Let me get this straight. Some guy dressed up as Batman to fight the guys dressing up as clowns scaring people. Maybe this planet aint so bad after all."

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    Wisp glides away from Zanthia.

    WISP: Oh, I'm sorry I didn't wanted to stir up bad memories.

    Wisp seems to look at Larimar and this time she flits around him a bit, having him under scrutiny.

    With that she flies by Rina who get's a good whif of the creature.

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    As far as Rina can tell Wisp is honest. The smell though is hard to discern, it's very unintrusive but with Rina actually bringing attention to it it reminds her more of a warm summer-sun that warms her face in the morning, stones that are fished out of a river and warmed by the sun, etc...


    WISP: Hmm, kissed by Luna for sure, but not marked heavily. Thanks brave chobin, then it will be you.

    Wisp flies at Larimar's head and seems to vanish completey.

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    Your head feels very light for a moment, like when you drank a bit too much, the feeling get's weaker but doesn't go away entirely.


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    With Aned being safe from the waterfall would it be alright to jump ahead a bit or do you want to take a rest?


    You make your way back, Nahscha is sound asleep and it seems she hasn’t noticed your conversation with Wisp. The dangers of the waterfall succesfully negated you make your way down to the entrance of cascade caverns. The sun has gone up and shines on your faces after you exit the caverns and nothing seems to jump at you from the foliage. You succesfully make your way back to Wendel, past the farms and into the city proper. This time you have too get to the church and ask an acolyte for a meeting with the high priest. He says you were awaited however and leads you too some stairs, nicely hidden by a statue of Shade. (in this case he is shown as an eye with wings attached too it. The lids of the eye however has teeth instead of eyelashes.) You go up some way and trough a featureless corridor that ends in a door. The acolyte knocks and after a „come in.“ He opens the door for you.

    You find yourself in a comfy, spacious room. Right know it’s most prominent feature is a wooden bed with plain white sheets. In that bed lies a mushboom. One of these creatures that are a small lightly yellow rump with small feet and arms. His mouth and eyes are visible but closed with some kind of strain. He is half covered by the sheets and seams to glisten with something like sweat, the cap on his head is mostly in a royal blue color but there are also small golden speckles on it. When you take a closer look they seem to be some brown mushrooms growing on the mushboom.
    A small silvery crown lies on the nightstand beside the bed.

    Ethan sits on a chair besides the bed. He stands up when you enter the room, he still seems too be tired but he looks way better then before, he properly has taken a good nights sleep but is not totally recovered yet. He rushes towards you, a look of deep worry on his face. „You’re early, has something happ…“ Wisp uses that moment to creep out of Larimar and seems to do a little floating courtsy too the high priest. She looks at king chanterelle and is immediately enraged.

    WISP: „Shade! Shade! Are you here? Have you done that?“

    Wisp flits around the room, she knocks the crown oft he nightstand and doesn’t even seem too notice.

    WISP: „I can’t believe… That smells very strongly of him!“

    She floats around the king while examining the strange mushrooms sprouting out of him.

    WISP: „It’s either directly from him or from someone who is strongly aligned with the shadows.“

    Wisp let’s out a desperate sigh.

    WISP: „I’m pretty sure I can get the curse out of him. He and you will definitely need some rest after that.“

    Ethan nods dutifully then turns too the party. „I thank you a lot for bringing Wisp to me. I’m sure it was an arduous journey, please take that for your trouble.“ Ethan goes to a chest and retrieves six bags he hands to each one of the party. „If you may please stay in the city a bit longer. We will do our best to lift the curse from the king, I would like to talk with you after that if you have no other duties. He looks at Rina a moment longer then the others. „I will contact you as soon as possible. But too be honest you look pretty exhausted yourself, take a rest, I’m sure your expenses will be covered.“

    He grant’s you an exhausted but happy smile.
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    Rina and Coney seek out and chat with Mart about his life since their conversation at the farm.

    You find Mart at an inn who is selling an awful lot of bear-meat with honey. He looks quite good, but a little reserved, though with your talking abilities you get him to open up. If he had wounds from a bear battle they seem to be mostly healed. He tells you openly that he is from Valsena and from house Vish. The house was, in the past, mostly known for their fierce battle progress and daredevil attitude but is know only a husk of it's former self. Somehow he got a lot of the hot blood inherited and that got him in a lot of trouble in his teenage years.

    After that he seems to hesitate a moment but he admits that he has been talked to by a strange recruiting guy. He gave him a good beatdown and then got talked to by a totally different guy who praised his strong arm and coaxed him into going to a meeting. They spoke of some things that interested him very much. Glorious heroes slaying monsters, dark times that should be avoided… And a lot of praise for him and his strength and his fury. He fell out of that circle only recently and now try's to find a bit of work. He would be very interested if you have an idea.
    Mart revealed that he was to meet with representatives of his mysterious master at a bar in town. Some subset of the PC's agree to be on hand for that meeting, supporting Mart in case it turns violent. In case it becomes relevant, Coney looks like a mixed-breed dog, and all PC's are invisible for this exchange. It unfolds as follows:

    He goes out of the town some ways, near where you first met him. There are three people waiting for him. One that looks like a half-elf, that wears camouflaging clothing and a shortbow (she sits in bright light, what kinda defeats the purpose.) One that looks so much like a clichee-maga that it hurts (robe with arcane symbols and a bright pointy hat with stars on it.) And a nicely-dressed male spokesperson who either has used a lot of cantrips to keep himself clean or has magic pants and a magic shirt.

    "Ah, Mart. I saw a rather lack of corpses littering the farms. Can you explain that to me?" Mart stands there pretty calm and collected. "I think we got it all wrong, I talked with some…" He get's interrupted by the other man. "You talked to people?!" He shakes his head, stiffling a laugh. "What did he tell you? What did our master tell you? He told you to don't talk to others, because they are in thrall of our enemies! How could you get that wrong?"

    He shakes his head again for emphasis. The half-elf is still on lookout and the maga takes a step forward, exactly when Mart want's to get some words in.

    "Don't be so harsh to him, Sigmund! Everyone of us could get turned around, but that's why we are here. And you know what the best thing is? Despite him having doubts Mart is still with us. He still have come to us, to talk about his doubts and we can help him see the right path again."

    She hugs herself, clearly moved by her own words. She seems shocked after Mart talked. "Get off, I don't want to go back." She stutters a bit. "B-b-but why?"

    Mart sighs. "You know I was in the town and..." He get's interrupted again. "You also get into the town? Are you freaking mad?! That was the one thing you should have never ever done why you…" This time Mart interrupts him. "It's fine, the people there are fine. They don't want to exploit anyone, no one is under the tyrannic order of the high priest, they just want to live in peace and to forcefully tnterrupt that peace is just horrible. I don't want to do that anymore."

    There is a heavy silence that hangs in the air. It get's interrupted by Sigmund. "You know we have to bring you back now, don't you?" The half-elf looks to Mart, as does the maga, though her face is heavy with concern. Mart's hands get to his sword though he doesn't draw it. "You could try, but I will defend myself and who knows perhaps I kill one of you." Sigmund throws his hands up in the air. "Ok, you know what? You can stay here." He get's a confused look from the maga but he explains himself. "I can't convince you with my words, our mission was to check up on you and if possible bring you back. It may be possible but I don't want to endanger my brethren, that does include you Mart." Sigmund gives him an intense look. "You may rethink when you see the dark, Sludge that is hiding beneath the surface of the citizens you begin to endear that much. You know where to find us."

    He turns around and just begins walking.
    Coney is torn, wanting to learn more about the trio but concerned about Mart after that exchange. Perhaps Rina will choose to track the trio, now or later, but that's all rather outside of Coney's wheelhouse, so to speak. She trails Mart quietly for half a mile or so before dropping the invisibility and joining him on the road back into town (still looking like a dog, albeit a talking one). For a while, she simply walks with Mart, gauging his frame of mind, before speaking.

    "I'm so sorry, but you were kind of amazing back there. Are you all right?"

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    Mart seems to be really thinking a lot when he walks back to the town and at first doesn't even realize the dog when he appears again. When he does he doesn't say a thing till Coney has spoken.

    "Amazing? I don't know, I really thought about going back when Friselda spoke… I had a thing for her, you know." He says openly, silently shaking his head. "I don't know what you did with me back there but." He stays silent for a moment. "You know they told me so much how my rage was unbreakable, I would not falter even when a dragon would charge at me and I believed them. But obviously they lied." He smirks without any humor.

    "You turned my world upside down. And instead of using that moment of weakness you even spared me. That doesn't fit with anything I learned." He goes silent for a few more steps. "I had to see for myself what it was all about you know."

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    "We would have backed you up, you know.." Larimar says, awkwardly. "But, uh.. I know it seemed like you all didn't want to hurt each other. Which is well enough, in any case. At least my bow is blessed to not actually kill any living being..."

    "So now that you've seen Wendel for yourself, what do you plan on doing now?"

    He playfully teases, "Or are you still not 100% convinced we are not mindless thralls to the High Priest or the Dark Rabite, or something?"
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    "Simplicity, a clear enemy responsible for everything bad in the world, and being told that one is chosen hold comfortable appeal for people. But things rarely are that simple and straightforward, and those who insist they are sadly often have ulterior goals," Thaum comments. "But you can choose for yourself now, instead of being used as a weapon. Give it time."

    And the evening of the day, true to his word, Thaum also takes care of any lingering wounds and mends everyone's clothes to get rid of all the stains and tears inflicted by the battles, before finally retiring for the day, almost all of his magical reserves spent and thus more than a little fatigued.

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    Coney trots along, thinking hard about Mart's point.

    "As to what we did, I only understand part of it myself. Mostly, I think that we gave you a chance to find a new way to look at your life. If your rage has always been a reliable way to deal with problems, then it took the loss of that rage - permanent or transitory, I can't say - to make you think in a new way.

    "Truth be told, you've done the same for me. I wanted to reject the idea of a Dark Rabite, a founder who seeks to advance my people at the expense of others. For decades, I've worked and fought and bled - literally - to advance my people to be peers with older races. But it had never occurred to me that there might be an adjacent impulse, a desire to advance rabies over others.

    "But in the past week, we have learned that there might in fact be such a force in the world. We don't understand it, and I will work against it with everything I have. But if you had not trusted us with your story, I would never have thought to check without your words of caution. So I am in your debt."


    She plodded on in silence for a moment.

    "And from what little I've learned of this Dark Rabite...it is a worthy target of your rage."
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    "I'm really not sure what I should do now." Mart smirks about Larimar's quip but seems to give it some serious thought. "With all I know about magic and it's not that much mind you, I think it would be pretty hard to controll all these people all the time in a way that it seems believable."

    He faces Thaum and says: "Yes, that was exactly what I was thinking. Here is your goal, make it there and we even have some presents for you on the way." Mart sneers, but seems to relax a bit.

    He turns to Coney and says: "Oh, it's not permanent. I can still feel the embers of my rage resting inside me, ready to burst out in a consuming flame. Or was that to philosophical?" He laugs a bit but then his mood darkens with Coney's following words. "It really does exist, huh? That should not surprise me, the best lies have some truth hidden inside." He grumbles to himself and seems seriously torn, his feelings openly displayed in his contorted face. Mart does come to a conclusion after a bit of time though, his face relaxed.

    "You know, I heard they wanted to sometimes, maybe, attack this rabite village in the four-season-forest. I should have joined them when I'm done here. As far as I know they wanted to gather some more people for that, because they are some capable rabite's there. But I don't know when they will attack, if they even still want to do that or what they're battle plan was." He sighs heavily. "And I still don't want to fight against people I knew before when I can avoid it. But you know if you want I could go there, scout around and give you a warning should I find them moving? I mean if they want to attack with a serious force they can't be that subtle or fast."

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    "I'm really not sure what I should do now." Mart smirks about Larimar's quip but seems to give it some serious thought. "With all I know about magic and it's not that much mind you, I think it would be pretty hard to controll all these people all the time in a way that it seems believable."
    Do not be too quick to dismiss magical mind control. While a wizard or a sorcerer are usually about as subtle as a sledgehammer, the subtle touch of a witch can do a lot more and leave almost no trace. And controlling the leader of a group is more efficient than trying to control all the underlings
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    "And I still don't want to fight against people I knew before when I can avoid it. But you know if you want I could go there, scout around and give you a warning should I find them moving? I mean if they want to attack with a serious force they can't be that subtle or fast."
    Coney wagged her dog tail emphatically.

    "I think that I know that village! I would offer to go and keep watch over them, but if you do so, we're all the more likely to find a way to avoid bloodshed. I will join you as soon as I am not needed here. Thank you so much, Mart!"
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    Mart's laughs nervously when he hears Zanthia's words, but stops himself after he looks at her.

    "You're serious? You think that he." Mart is silent for a moment. "It could be. I guess he could be controlled, but he seemed so strong-willed and." He stops himself again for a short time. "But if they thought that my rage is unbreakable then he may very well also be under the command of another. Witch or otherwise." He groans. "It's really much for me to take in."

    Coney's dog antics does bring a smile to his face. He try's to stroke her head but then harrumphs and says.

    "I just get some stuff for the journey. And if I can try often enough I'm sure I can bring a magical message to you, or find one who can. I'm quite honored to be of help too be honest." He bows his head a little.

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    Okay, Zanthia's words are steering way too close to fear-mongering, so a bit of moderation is needed. Thaum really doesn't want to deal with people becoming paranoid for no reason. "Zanthia, you and your coven are very good at enchanting, but even you can't change the nature of the school. It always leaves traces the same way it does when done by anyone else, and so far we have seen none of them. By that logic, you and everyone else in this world is just as likely to be under someone's control right now, and while one needs to be observant and not just believe everything they are told without verification, by default believing everyone is currently a puppet is a good way to ruin your life for no reason." Sadly, this is a pretty normal thing among the more charismatic enchanters. They often lack the ability to see the traces it leaves in people, while they often end up being next to blindingly obvious to experienced priests and caregivers.

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    The traces Thaum mentioned are what you can detect via Sense Motive, as the DCs never change and I have never seen anything able to hide those or make them harder to detect.
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    Im not trying to fear-monger or create paranoia, Im just saying every option needs to be on the table. And we've really only seen one of their number to test the residual theory on.
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