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    There are demigods in the Northern pantheon, which nobody thinks of most of the time. This led me to a new idea.

    We are introduced to the Eastern Gods in strip 273, showing Zeus, Ares, and Pan. In strip #274, we are told that the Snarl "systematically executed the remainder of the Eastern gods." He started with Ares and Apollo, the Hades, Poseidon, even gentle Demeter and fair Aphrodite, and finally Zeus. But Pan is neither mentioned nor shown.

    All of the ones listed, and shown to die, are major gods in the Greek Pantheon.

    But Pan never was. Is he a demi-god who's been hiding ever since the major Eastern gods were slain? He's appeared only once, in #273.

    And, of course, he would have a green speech balloon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay R View Post
    There are demigods in the Northern pantheon, which nobody thinks of most of the time. This led me to a new idea.

    We are introduced to the Eastern Gods in strip 273, showing Zeus, Ares, and Pan. In strip #274, we are told that the Snarl "systematically executed the remainder of the Eastern gods." He started with Ares and Apollo, the Hades, Poseidon, even gentle Demeter and fair Aphrodite, and finally Zeus. But Pan is neither mentioned nor shown.

    All of the ones listed, and shown to die, are major gods in the Greek Pantheon.

    But Pan never was. Is he a demi-god who's been hiding ever since the major Eastern gods were slain? He's appeared only once, in #273.

    And, of course, he would have a green speech balloon.
    If this was world 2, maybe an Eastern God would make sense. But after millions of planet lifespans? Why would he reappear *now*?

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    OK time to place my 2 cents.

    The Giant said the person would be an important ally "in the first half of the book."

    Strip #1183 has the three fiends in that pact (the name slips my mind) talking about "the artifact being ready" as well as Sabine.

    My guess is that the ally will be someone to help them deal with this. And to go out on a limb, that sounds like a job for a gnome from Tinkertown. Maybe one of the merchants?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2.5 cats View Post
    Strip #1183 has the three fiends in that pact (the name slips my mind) talking about "the artifact being ready" as well as Sabine.
    Do we have a list of people that Sabine has met?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quartz View Post
    Do we have a list of people that Sabine has met?
    A thought occurs: was Sabine shown killing anyone in Cliffport?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2.5 cats View Post
    OK time to place my 2 cents.

    The Giant said the person would be an important ally "in the first half of the book."

    Strip #1183 has the three fiends in that pact (the name slips my mind) talking about "the artifact being ready" as well as Sabine.

    My guess is that the ally will be someone to help them deal with this. And to go out on a limb, that sounds like a job for a gnome from Tinkertown. Maybe one of the merchants?
    I really like the idea of it being this artificer that V met in Tinkertown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo Baggins View Post
    I really like the idea of it being this artificer that V met in Tinkertown.
    Two apparitions.

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    Maybe the gnome who asked Belkar out?
    If Rich suddenly becomes a callous and raisin-hearted monster for some reason?

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    Okay, bear with me, because I know its wrong... but I chortled. Literally chortled, when I thought of it.

    Wisdom buffed Belkar.

    Okay, I'll see myself out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ornithologist View Post
    Okay, bear with me, because I know its wrong... but I chortled. Literally chortled, when I thought of it.

    Wisdom buffed Belkar.

    Okay, I'll see myself out.
    I stared at this for a while trying to work out if it was an 'In Soviet Russia' joke...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riftwolf View Post
    Maybe the gnome who asked Belkar out?
    If Rich suddenly becomes a callous and raisin-hearted monster for some reason?
    Now that you mention it, she did have a pretty cool character design, almost standing out a bit from the rest of the crowd. (Let's keep the paranoia going!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riftwolf View Post
    I stared at this for a while trying to work out if it was an 'In Soviet Russia' joke...
    No, but man that is a missed opportunity. Crud.

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    Now that you mention it, she did have a pretty cool character design, almost standing out a bit from the rest of the crowd. (Let's keep the paranoia going!)
    She is easily My favorite random NPC that could become a an ally for half a book.
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    Didn't Durkon's Dad only appear once?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malfarian View Post
    Didn't Durkon's Dad only appear once?
    Counting the crayon drawings? No, way more than one page.
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    If he had not appeared a second time, I'd bet on Jiminy finally getting to be someone important.
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    If he had not appeared a second time, I'd bet on Jiminy finally getting to be someone important.
    Imean, the firsr time he appeared he was on two pages.
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    Orange Voice and Shoulder Pads Guy probably make the most sense off the top of my head, but there's so little to go on here that I don't think I have a realistic shot of guessing. I'm trying to think if there's someone who might have barely appeared in a prequel. (I wanted to guess "Keith Baker," but the Appearances Thread suggest he appeared on two pages.)

    Also, re: the debate over which books count as prequels, as per

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant, Book 6 commentary
    Someone who has appeared in exactly one (1) page of the story so far (including all the prequel stories) will become an important ally in the first half of the next book.
    The page after the title page categorizes the books as "The Main Story," "The Prequels," and "The Random Stuff," so I would bet that "The Random Stuff" isn't a resource worth perusing to guess, being that it's all non-canonical, but the other two sections are. (The only books in "The Random Stuff" are Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales and Haleo and Julelan.)

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    Has anyone suggested the female goblin from SoD, who was interested in theology and wanted a date with Redcloack? Do we know what happened to her later?

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    Well, since she was part of the village Xykon dragooned into assaulting the Dungeon of Dorukon odds are she got killed with the others.

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    She was from the next valley over, so she might've evaded the press ganging and want vengeance for her family members who didn't escape.

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    I say Mia Starshine.

    #1. The Giant mentioned at one point that Haley and Sabine were opposites in more ways than had been revealed. As far as I know, this has never been explained.
    #2. Haley has a cryptogram during her date with Elan, when she is trying to reveal her secrets, where she says "Elan, it turns out I may not be exactly what you would call..." Again, this has never been explained. The final word was not spoken. But Haley's thoughts indicate that it's one of her deepest secrets.
    #3. Given that the last book went so far as to bring Wrecan himself on stage as a tribute, I think we can safely assume that the Giant is using the character count thread as his scorecard for number of appearances. Most of the names being floated have more than 1 appearance per that thread. But Mia is on the cameo list - one of very few cameos with a significant relationship to a protagonist.
    #4. Mia's single appearance was urging her husband and daughter to be "better than this city."

    I think that the word Haley was about to say was "human," and that Mia Starshine was (is?) a celestial of some type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dausuul View Post
    I think that the word Haley was about to say was "human," and that Mia Starshine was (is?) a celestial of some type.
    Mmm. It makes me wonder, if Mia is/was a celestial and is able to become a big ally for the party, what has she been doing being MIA (Missing In Action) for ~20 years? How long does it take for a celestial to revive on its home plane?

    Potentially, she becomes a planar ally for the party and flies Haley around so she can fight Oona on her Yrthak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rektascensja View Post
    Has anyone suggested the female goblin from SoD, who was interested in theology and wanted a date with Redcloack? Do we know what happened to her later?
    I thought about suggesting that, but it seemed too unlikely. It would be fun if it happened, though.

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    Also the panel where Haley is talking about what happened to her has her saying “mommy went to heaven last year” rather than that she explicitly died.

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    Ooo! Good one. And maybe the pair of round flawless gemstones Haley has is a magical device for summoning her mother. Haley just hasn't found a way to activate them yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dausuul View Post
    I say Mia Starshine.

    #1. The Giant mentioned at one point that Haley and Sabine were opposites in more ways than had been revealed. As far as I know, this has never been explained.
    #2. Haley has a cryptogram during her date with Elan, when she is trying to reveal her secrets, where she says "Elan, it turns out I may not be exactly what you would call..." Again, this has never been explained. The final word was not spoken. But Haley's thoughts indicate that it's one of her deepest secrets.
    #3. Given that the last book went so far as to bring Wrecan himself on stage as a tribute, I think we can safely assume that the Giant is using the character count thread as his scorecard for number of appearances. Most of the names being floated have more than 1 appearance per that thread. But Mia is on the cameo list - one of very few cameos with a significant relationship to a protagonist.
    #4. Mia's single appearance was urging her husband and daughter to be "better than this city."

    I think that the word Haley was about to say was "human," and that Mia Starshine was (is?) a celestial of some type.
    Intriguing. Best idea I've heard so far, because you're right in that there are a couple hanging threads for Haley that have yet to be picked up. They're threads that could be explained away (Haley and Sabine have very opposite personalities and relationship styles; "Elan, I may not be exactly what you would call a good person") - but still hanging threads, and about a main character, too. So I vote for your idea. At the very least - someone involved with Haley's past.

    I also like the idea that someone brought up of the gnome outfitter that asked Belkar out to lunch. She did have a unique enough design that she might be identifiable if she appeared again. Though if she did reappear, it would primarily be as character development for Belkar and I'd find it difficult to see how she ties in with the main story.


    Other than that, my only thought is that it must be a god or a god's representative - one of either appeared at the Godsmoot or in one of the crayon flashbacks.
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    I was thinking this ally might be one of the crew of the Mechane, since the Order is on the Mechane right now. But I don't know if there's any of them who appeared on exactly one page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalFailure View Post
    Also the panel where Haley is talking about what happened to her has her saying “mommy went to heaven last year” rather than that she explicitly died.

    Yes, but in her actual sole appearance it says explicitly that she died.

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    why not one of the good aligned goblins?
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    We see a few of them just once I think.

    Mind you, I’m just guessing for fun. I doubt this will pan out

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    Wait, are we talking about whether Haley is half-celestial again? Like, seriously, and not as a joke?
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