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Thread: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
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2019-12-19, 08:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
Well in a prior game we established that Outsider appeared in narrative convenience and I'm the villain, so that makes them the protag.
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2019-12-20, 12:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
Day 1 ends.
Everyone was quite confused after finding death threats written on the wall in blood. Together, they decided to do the reasonable thing. Elect a mayor! For some reason! Together, it was decided that Unavenger should lead the town. Unavenger was elected the mayor.
Now that they had some organisation, they could get on with finding the madman. "Let's lynch all twelve wolves" somebody suggested. "You mean half of us?" another asked? "I could probably find a dog in my freezer, but I don't think there are any wolves on board" said a third. "Why would you have a dog in your freezer?" "Who knows? Meanwhile, want to join my secret plan?" "Nah, I think you're probably up to something." "Hey everyone, this person looks shifty." "Last time I saw them, they were lying to everyone in and out of sight" "We should lynch them, if only to save our sanity."
"That's probably a good idea" said AvatarVecna.
AvatarVecna was lynched. They were the cook.
(Valid) Vote Count:
Additionally Grek and Snowblaze both have conditional immunity from night-kills, as long as they don't die from a night kill.AvatarVecna 7 Unavenger 3 Caerulea 1 Snowblaze 1
Night 1 begins.Last edited by Caerulea; 2019-12-20 at 01:33 PM.
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2019-12-20, 09:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
Did we ever get told that we were allowed to elect a mayor or give... some sort of NK-immunity contingent on not dying from a NK?
Mainly curious if I missed a post or if players went on a guess and got Caerulea allowed it.
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2019-12-20, 09:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
I thought it was all a joke to be honest. That said, I'm fairly sure it was never stated that we could elect a major or vote night immunity for some.
It was stated that we should try and it just might work though.Last edited by Valmark; 2019-12-20 at 09:14 AM.
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2019-12-20, 09:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
This line also seems funny. I can't tell if it really means anything or not. E.g., is it an axiomatic "as long as you don't get X, you don't get X" or really meaning some sort of NKs are blocked?
To help discern the rules of this uncertain game, I'd actually like it if the wolves (or anyone with a NK power) kills one of them.
And I realize that sounds incredibly wolfish -- asking for a good info-gathering reason to kill folk we have no reason to suspect -- so I'll just admit I'm neutral. Albeit mainly in selfish hopes of staving off assaults from both the Town lynch-vote and the Wolf night-kill.
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To test for odd rules: votingGrekdespite it being the Night.Last edited by JeenLeen; 2019-12-20 at 01:57 PM.
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2019-12-20, 09:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-20, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
I'm leaning towards it being a smart mouth way of saying they aren't immune to night kills. The mayor thing I'm fifty fifty on whether or not it will give any benefit or just a matter of we have an unofficial mayor.
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2019-12-20, 09:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
Try this, try that, try everything, try
JeenLeen.
I haven't been informed yet that my new position as mayor does anything, and I'm pretty sure that "They won't die from NK so long as they don't die from NK" is meant to be a silly tautology. So, I imagine that all of this nonsense is probably just a distraction.
EDIT: Also, we've made it clear that you can only legally vote for one, specific person who's playing the game, which is a useful piece of information I guess.Last edited by Unavenger; 2019-12-20 at 10:30 AM.
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2019-12-20, 09:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-20, 10:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-20, 10:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
It's your fault for painting a target on yourself by becoming immune(ish?) to being a target.
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Though with how the first Day's results went, I wouldn't be surprised if Caerulea was the/a wolf. But I also won't be surprised if I die tonight or tomorrow, so not too much concern over here.
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EDIT: was ninja'd by Unavenger. I'm totally good with a wagon on the Narrarator Day 2. Or maybe someone should check if the Narrator has NK-immunity. (Probably so, if indeed the narrator is a threat.)
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2019-12-20, 10:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-20, 10:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
Also, SI tried to vote for "The madman". That vote doesn't seem to have counted either, so voting for one inspecific person doesn't seem to have worked. So it seems that, apart from Caerulea votes counting, only players can be voted up.
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2019-12-20, 10:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
Actually... Now that you mention it...
The last two games I played in started with:
Unavenger was killed, they were the universalist
And
Basketofpuppies was killed, they were the CEO.
Perhaps Caerulea is playing since that isn't how this one started.
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2019-12-20, 10:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-20, 11:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
That does not seem like a good idea. And no, I'm not just saying that because I don't want to die. From my point of view it seems pretty clear that it's just a joke and I have no form of immunity, as a few others agree. There's no logical reason to kill me (especially as I'm town).
Caerulea, can you please confirm what you meant?
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2019-12-20, 11:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-20, 11:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
Caerula just to see what happens
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2019-12-20, 12:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-20, 01:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
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2019-12-20, 01:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
Caerulea, you kind of have too many PMs stored, apparently
@Xihirli: Do remember that in some (the best) stories the protagonist IS the villainLast edited by Valmark; 2019-12-20 at 01:36 PM.
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2019-12-20, 01:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
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2019-12-20, 02:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-20, 03:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-20, 05:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-20, 05:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
Nope, the protagonist is the main character according to the main plot. Usually the protagonist is *good* and the antagonist is *evil* but there are stories where it's inverted, or too morally grey to decide.
In the film about Joker (DC) the protagonist is... Well... Joker and he is evil, at least by society standards. I'd argue it, but it might become spoiler.
Or in "Of Orcs and Men", a videogame where the protagonists are... I mean, they aren't strictly evil in my opinion, but they are brutal and merciless, more so on certain paths. Too much to be considered simply anti-heroes, imo.
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2019-12-20, 06:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
I have always read and been taught that the protagonist, viewpoint character, and main character are distinct things. For instance Sherlock Holmes is the main character but not the view point character. Darth Vader is the main character of starwars (at least he was in the first six, haven't seen the new ones) but for the most part not the protagonist as that was Luke. My teachers always claimed the protagonist was the one you "root for" while the main character was the one it was about.... But that might have just been them making stuff up because they didn't know the functional difference between I and me so...
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2019-12-20, 06:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
To my knowledge they are different, yes. The viewpoint character is basically the narrator, be it an abstract being or an actual character.
Main characters are the ones who are most tied to the plot, usually without them you don't even have the story. Protagonist and antagonist are both main characters.
The protagonist is the one character the story is about, or the most important one anyway.
Luke would be the protagonist and Darth Vader a main character in the first three films, Anakin the protagonist in the second three.
As far as rooting for goes... I guess usually it is, but it honestly depends. In She-Ra I can't even fathom rooting for the protagonists.
But it might just be me who's rotten xD
Do note that it's all my opinion, anyone else wil say different things.Last edited by Valmark; 2019-12-20 at 10:22 PM.
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2019-12-20, 09:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mafia/WW Red Atlantic Cruise
You know what? Sure. Caerulea
I'm Chaotic Good! Ish!
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2019-12-20, 09:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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