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    Default Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup

    There's coin flip odds of Loup staying alive, and better-than-even that Ysengrin will come out alive too.
    Coyote has a 120% chance of coming back, and that doesn't even make sense!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoeticallyPsyco View Post
    Hang on. Does the Court actually have the authority to take the water from her? She's acting in her capacity as ambassador from the forest, working with elves, to retrieve something of Coyote's that's inside a giant tree. There's an argument to be made that it's on Court property, but it itself is not Court property, they couldn't retrieve it themselves, and as far as I know the Court getting any such thing isn't part of any agreement made with Annie, the Forest's representative. OTOH, maybe they do have that right from an older agreement...

    Regardless, the whole thing was pulled off more like a Bavarian Fire Drill than a bureaucratic process, complete with comments about Annie's recent performance to keep the target off balance.
    Do they really care?
    Don't forget that the higher-ups in the court see the forest as just animals.
    They respect their strength (mainly because it can't be ignored), but have very little respect for things like arguing about "property rules" with them.

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    Default Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup

    The chapter 69 retrospective video is up. That was the first chapter of volume 8, which AFAIK makes it the first retrospective for a chapter while the online pages for the same book are still running.

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    Default Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup

    Today's comic:

    Annie(s) dropping everything and running to help Kat once she finally gets an inkling of just how bad things have gotten is both very in-character for her and representative of a lot of personal growth, I think.

    Maybe this big discussion won't be as much of a blowout as I feared. Could always still go down that road, though.

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    Ah so this is finally something that is too far for her world view^^

    Anyway I honestly like the two Annie combo. Now I feel like reading a book where somebody teams up with their alternate self.

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    Default Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup

    I also like the two Annie team. It would be sad, if and when, we go back to having only one Antimony.

    Also, the Arbiter/translator said neither of the current Annies belong there. Is there a third one, and if she does materialize, would the new contract with Renard apply to her?

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    Default Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup

    Interesting development.

    Maybe two Annies is the straw that broke Kat's back. She's been pretty chill about a lot of the crazy goings-on in the Court, and it's implied that she and Annie have experienced more off-panel.

    I think if it it were anything or anyone else, she'd write it off as something she can't explain yet. But Annie was for a long time her only friend. Not being able to explain it or fix it is probably killing her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haruspex_Pariah View Post
    Interesting development.

    Maybe two Annies is the straw that broke Kat's back. She's been pretty chill about a lot of the crazy goings-on in the Court, and it's implied that she and Annie have experienced more off-panel.

    I think if it it were anything or anyone else, she'd write it off as something she can't explain yet. But Annie was for a long time her only friend. Not being able to explain it or fix it is probably killing her.
    Kat was born and raised in the Court. That level of weirdness is her baseline.
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    Default Re: Gunnerkrigg Court 8: Thrown for a Loup

    Zimmy was right, Kat's gears are grinding themselves down to powder trying to deal with two Annies. It will be interesting to see how she tries to fix or deal with this.

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    Does Kat still think one of the Annies is fake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 137ben View Post
    Does Kat still think one of the Annies is fake?
    I don't think so. If she did, she'd have a plausible explanation for their existence. Having to accept both as real is a lot trickier.
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    I guess it's "anime-style character explains their own character conflict" time.
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    So...
    Several years ago I recall reading some speculation on a forum (either this one or the Gunnerkrigg forum) that the Tiktoks (which seem like technology but which the Court robotics experts don't know the origins of) will be created in the future by Kat, and then sent back in time to save Annie when she fell off the bridge.

    I didn't think much of that speculation at the time, but it seems more relevant now with the latest page.

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    The point is that the AA in AA batteries stands for Annie Annie.

    Not sure how it ties into the rest of the plot yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kornaki View Post
    The point is that the AA in AA batteries stands for Annie Annie.

    Not sure how it ties into the rest of the plot yet...
    Simple my dear Kornaki, Kat will be using the two Annie's as power source for some gigantic bird robot and take over the world! That is the fate of all mad scientists! (You know I am really unsure what the world in the comic outside Court and Forest is like, just our normal world?)

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    Kat may end up as a sort of super-villain if she gets carried away.

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    Okay, crackpot theory time. When that strange thing said that Neither Annie should be there, it wasn't referring to there being a third Annie somewhere. It meant hat the really Annie (should have) died a long time ago when she fell off that bridge, but then kat messed with the time-line to rescue her creating the first instance of time-line split Annie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeTess View Post
    Okay, crackpot theory time. When that strange thing said that Neither Annie should be there, it wasn't referring to there being a third Annie somewhere. It meant hat the really Annie (should have) died a long time ago when she fell off that bridge, but then kat messed with the time-line to rescue her creating the first instance of time-line split Annie.
    Someone has suggested that possibility before.

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    It's starting to look like the thread title pun may have been a little more accurate than I had intended!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdrop View Post
    It's starting to look like the thread title pun may have been a little more accurate than I had intended!
    A time loup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrinar View Post
    Ah so this is finally something that is too far for her world view^^

    Anyway I honestly like the two Annie combo. Now I feel like reading a book where somebody teams up with their alternate self.
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    I suppose Kat's "bird phase" never really ended, huh?

    I'm glad that Tom finally addressed the mystery of the Tic-tocs, though time travel is one of those things that always gets me a little worried.

    If Kat sent the birds back in time to save Annie, and the robots perceive them as being far older things, does that mean Kat can see all the way back in time? To the founding of the court and such?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haruspex_Pariah View Post
    If Kat sent the birds back in time to save Annie, and the robots perceive them as being far older things, does that mean Kat can see all the way back in time? To the founding of the court and such?
    That's what I am beginning to suspect as well. "The Court grew from the seed Bismuth."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Haruspex_Pariah View Post
    If Kat sent the birds back in time to save Annie, and the robots perceive them as being far older things, does that mean Kat can see all the way back in time? To the founding of the court and such?
    Quote Originally Posted by Iruka View Post
    That's what I am beginning to suspect as well. "The Court grew from the seed Bismuth."
    Last chapter of the series -- they finally meet some grand architect or immortal keeper of the court or the like. It looks up, notices Kat. "Mommy?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeTess View Post
    Okay, crackpot theory time. When that strange thing said that Neither Annie should be there, it wasn't referring to there being a third Annie somewhere. It meant hat the really Annie (should have) died a long time ago when she fell off that bridge, but then kat messed with the time-line to rescue her creating the first instance of time-line split Annie.
    .... okay, guess I owe myself a cookie now XD
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    .. yeah guess you did earn a cookie from that prediction :D
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    So she's assuaged her misgiving about making the tick-tock with the knowledge that it would be impossible to send it back in time, but here comes another impossible thing right out in the open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingnutx View Post
    So she's assuaged her misgiving about making the tick-tock with the knowledge that it would be impossible to send it back in time, but here comes another impossible thing right out in the open.
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    I don't think Kat will invent time travel. Not really. Remember when Coyote gave that explanation about how human belief made it so he had always existed? I bet that's what will happen with the birds, only with robots' belief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkis View Post
    I don't think Kat will invent time travel. Not really. Remember when Coyote gave that explanation about how human belief made it so he had always existed? I bet that's what will happen with the birds, only with robots' belief.
    I like this explanation because it would make things less messy, and less "nothing really matters because it can all be fixed via my time machine". Stakes are important.
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