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    And this is why you properly chew your food: So someone can’t cast Greater Dispel Magic and make you choke on it.

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    Calder is having a rough day.
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    The dragon is still alive, right? Looks like Bloodfeast was safely ejected into unoccupied space without harming him.

    Which, notably, was not what happened when Darth V polymorphed after being swallowed by the ancient black dragon.
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    Calder really should have seen this coming. XD

    Common enough trope that it should probably be added to an Evil Overlord List: "I will not try to swallow a polymorphed or reduced foe. The risk of them exploding or cutting their way out of my maw or stomach in a gory mess after the magic fails and they transform back is not worth it."
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    well now we have the problem of how the order will bring bloodfeast with them when they finish this fight and leave this place. But I guess, now that the Bloodfeast gun has been fired, they don't necessarily need him, so he might be Bloodfeast the deadinator by the end of this fight.

    Still, awesome fight! I didn't know how much I needed a dinosaur vs dragon fight in my life until now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linneris View Post
    The dragon is still alive, right? Looks like Bloodfeast was safely ejected into unoccupied space without harming him.

    Which, notably, was not what happened when Darth V polymorphed after being swallowed by the ancient black dragon.
    I'd say at this point Bloodfeast was still in Calder's mouth and not swallowed yet (see: his comment about chewing his feed first).

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    Calder is having a rough day.
    Calder has been having rough decades. To be fair, he probably deserved it for the combined amount of days his thralls didn't get to have at all because of him, but still. The guy has all the reasons in the world to be absolutely livid.
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    Ooh, big mistake doing that within casting distance of a wizard.

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    Yeah, I was expecting a much gorier result here — much more along the lines of ABD’s fate against Darth V.

    Probably makes sense, physics-wise, that Calder’s mouth would be the path of least resistance and it wouldn’t, like, shatter his skull.

    It’s still not looking GREAT for him, though

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    You had me scared for a moment there.

    Nice callback to V using a lower-level dispelling spell earlier so they didn't transform Bloodfeast then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linneris View Post
    The dragon is still alive, right? Looks like Bloodfeast was safely ejected into unoccupied space without harming him.

    Which, notably, was not what happened when Darth V polymorphed after being swallowed by the ancient black dragon.
    Darth Vaarsuvius was in the Dragon’s stomach when E cast Shapechange on emself.

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    Calder is having a rough day.
    True, but I was thinking the same thing about V. Not looking too good there.
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    What I love particularly about this fight is that it's a very DnD way to take down the Dragon. It's silly and cool and strange to have a lizard transform into a T-Rex, twice in one fight, as a way to win. It feels like the creative, crazy fun way a real group of PCs would try to take down a Big Bad. I really appreciate Rich's writing, as always

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    V for the win!

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    Calder is having a rough day.
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    And the horn swapped back! Dying to know what’s up…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beni-Kujaku View Post
    [Calder] has all the reasons in the world to be absolutely livid.
    Nope. He's just getting just desserts for centuries of being so sadistic and dismissive of others. He brought all of this upon himself because he thought he could just abuse and kill the Order.

    Hubris, meet just desserts.

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    I think Calder bit off more than he can chew here.
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    This Greater Dispel Magic is in fact the Greatest Dispel Magic in the history of OotS
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    This Greater Dispel Magic is in fact the Greatest Dispel Magic in the history of OotS
    It’s tied with the epic unveiling of Xykon in the Battle of Azure City.

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    Vaarsuvius is deliberately helping Belkar. Character growth!

    [Also, clearly, Bloodfeast is experiencing character growth.]

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    So, if V could have undone the polymorph at any time, why wait until now?
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    Whoever said that Calder would eat Bloodfeast and that then Sunny was going to use his antimagic again to make it growth from inside him...

    Close enought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rad View Post
    So, if V could have undone the polymorph at any time, why wait until now?
    Tiny creatures are easier to travel with than Huge ones in say... Aeroships, bags of holding, 10x10 tunnels of a subterranean dungeon...

    I think we have found the story reason of this fight. With Bloodfeast polymorph ended our heroes will have a harder time going through the rest of the Final Dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    True, but I was thinking the same thing about V. Not looking too good there.
    Also true. Though I think we can make a scale here:

    1. Day ended with no allosaurus
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    3. Day ended with allosaurus attack
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    5. Day ended with allosaurus in mouth
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    The timing was perfect for a "Chew on this" quip. Missed opportunity, I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaverickMopete View Post
    It’s tied with the epic unveiling of Xykon in the Battle of Azure City.
    I am a big fan of dispelling Greater Invis on a zombie dragon, but I don't think this one is a tie. Dispelling an enemies defenses is routine enough, though it was a fantastic reveal. This one was a super mctwist GDM to flip a combat that has been back and forth in just a few frames. I am positively riveted to my chair
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    So, if V could have undone the polymorph at any time, why wait until now?
    : V was waiting for the coolest moment to do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    True, but I was thinking the same thing about V. Not looking too good there.
    I noticed the same thing and had a thought: We still have an unspoken prophecy that Belkar will, in some roundabout way, cause V's death. And V is precariously close to an allosaurus that is about to fall to the ground. What if V dies here, Belkar's involvement being "crushed to death by a dinosaur that was only present because of you"?
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