Things You Never Noticed VII: Wait, This Isnt the MitD Thread?

[danielxcutter]

You have caused me immense pain with that revelation.

[Fyraltari]

In #790, V says that throwing the figurine onto a "firm surface" will restore Haley to her original size. In the end, landing on the two lawyers (a law firm) restores her to her original size.

That would have been genius, but unfortunately it was the wall that did the trick.

[watersnap]

That would have been genius, but unfortunately it was the wall that did the trick.

<Man! I knew I should have double checked!

[Precure]

https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0661.html

Xykon's appendage (?) is inside of O-Chul's mouth.

[danielxcutter]

Yeah I'm pretty sure his idea was to detonate the Meteor Swarm point blank and blow their heads off.

[snowblizz]

https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0661.html

Xykon's appendage (?) is inside of O-Chul's mouth.

Have you ever seen a movie where the characters put the barrel inside the mouth of someone? That's what you are seeing in this scene. Xykon is even making pistolfingers

[Fyraltari]

Eugene Greenhilt's first name could be translated, if you squint a little*, as "good family". He's anything but.

*It means "well-born" as in "coming from good stock" but the root words are eu (good) and genos (race/family/people).

[littlebum2002]

I always thought Belkar saying "Don't lean in, he's got a poison tooth" was directed to V, telling V to keep Belkar away from the worm's poison tooth. But a recent re-read of Dune reminded me that it is not the worm that has a poison tooth but Leto Atreides

[Fyraltari]

I always thought Belkar saying "Don't lean in, he's got a poison tooth" was directed to V, telling V to keep Belkar away from the worm's poison tooth. But a recent re-read of Dune reminded me that it is not the worm that has a poison tooth but Leto Atreides

Which implies that Belkar roots for the Baron. Maybe he identifies?

[Lord Torath]

Yeah, that took me a couple of read-throughs to pick up on, too. Of course Belkar would root for the Harkonnens.

[danielxcutter]

Why, what are they like?

[Fyraltari]

Why, what are they like?

The Baron Harkonnen (and to some extent the rest of his family) is meant to represent everything wrong with humanity. He had basically every flaw you can think of. He is selfish, vengeful, cruel, petty, extremely greedy (to the point he needs antigravity devices to support his obese body), dishonest, prideful, arrogant, vain and is a paedophiliac rapist with incestuous desires.
At one point a character sees him and mentally quotes a religious text about the bringer of the apocalypse.

All in all, he is interesting as a villain solely from how over-the-top he is.

Edit: the first Dune novel has, as a central conflict, the struggle between the House Atreides (the protagonists) and the House Harkonnen. The Harkonnens are meant to be 100% in the wrong.

[danielxcutter]

The Baron Harkonnen (and to some extent the rest of his family) is meant to represent everything wrong with humanity. He had basically every flaw you can think of. He is selfish, vengeful, cruel, petty, extremely greedy (to the point he needs antigravity devices to support his obese body), dishonest, prideful, arrogant, vain and is a paedophiliac rapist with incestuous desires.
At one point a character sees him and mentally quotes a religious text about the bringer of the apocalypse.

All in all, he is interesting as a villain solely from how over-the-top he is.

Edit: the first Dune novel has, as a central conflict, the struggle between the House Atreides (the protagonists) and the House Harkonnen. The Harkonnens are meant to be 100% in the wrong.

Yeesh, not a lot of villains have that many vices.

[Ron Miel]

Which implies that Belkar roots for the Baron. Maybe he identifies?

I think that Belkar IS the Baron.

https://i.giantitp.com/bcx/Misspelled003.gif

[ti'esar]

Now I'm reminded of one of my favorite joke (...hopefully?) theories ever: Belkar will 'cheat' his death prophecy by being sent back in time to become Baron Pineapple, contender for the Order of the Scribble's dumbest villain ever, as foreshadowed by him wielding them against Tsukiko's wights. (He'll then die naturally sometime in the current year of old age, in case you were wondering.)

[Laurentio III]

Now I'm reminded of one of my favorite joke (...hopefully?) theories ever: Belkar will 'cheat' his death prophecy by being sent back in time to become Baron Pineapple, contender for the Order of the Scribble's dumbest villain ever, as foreshadowed by him wielding them against Tsukiko's wights. (He'll then die naturally sometime in the current year of old age, in case you were wondering.)

Wait, you mean that he isn't Serini after failing to kill a dozen of bugbears and turning into a frilly teenager?

[ZhonLord]

When Durkon had his flashback to being thrown out, I was confused as to how he went from robe to armor so quickly. I missed until now that the campfire cursing was later in the week, when Durkon would have had time to think and gather resources.

Makes his despairing "Ta Hel with ye!" all the more sorrowful when it wasn't just a spur of the moment outburst... It was after several days of built up despair over realizing it's really happening, he's really exiled.

[Lord Torath]

When Durkon had his flashback to being thrown out, I was confused as to how he went from robe to armor so quickly. I missed until now that the campfire cursing was later in the week, when Durkon would have had time to think and gather resources.

Makes his despairing "Ta Hel with ye!" all the more sorrowful when it wasn't just a spur of the moment outburst... It was after several days of built up despair over realizing it's really happening, he's really exiled.

Also note that they tossed his armor and hammer out after him. This is very explicit in On the Origin of PCs, but you can also see his armor coming at him at the top left of the second page (that weird thing that looks vaguely like the head of Sam the Eagle in his memory 'window').

[Fyraltari]

Also note that they tossed his armor and hammer out after him. This is very explicit in On the Origin of PCs, but you can also see his armor coming at him at the top left of the second page (that weird thing that looks vaguely like the head of Sam the Eagle in his memory 'window').

This is still such a neat visual gag, very discreet but you can definitely tell what's going to happen.

[Fyraltari]

The name of Elan's former employer is "Sir Francois", and not "Sir François", as I always read it.

[Metastachydium]

The name of Elan's former employer is "Sir Francois", and not "Sir François", as I always read it.

(I've always mentally pronounced it in the French way, incidentally (while secretly hoping it's actually pronounced /frank^w'i:s/).)

[Peelee]

The name of Elan's former employer is "Sir Francois", and not "Sir François", as I always read it.

English doesn't use diacritics, so it's almost certainly still pronounced as François despite being spelled Francois.

At the very least, ain't no way its pronounced "fran-koyz".

[Beni-Kujaku]

English doesn't use diacritics, so it's almost certainly still pronounced as François despite being spelled Francois.

At the very least, ain't no way its pronounced "fran-koyz".

Honestly, having regular names mispronounced does make for pretty good fantasy names. Francois (Fran-koyz), James (Ra-mess), Mickael (Mee-kay-hull) or Charles (Karleez)

[Metastachydium]

Honestly, having regular names mispronounced does make for pretty good fantasy names. Francois (Fran-koyz), James (Ra-mess), Mickael (Mee-kay-hull) or Charles (Karleez)

Indeed! I'd probably go with /'mitskæl/ and /'xarles/, /'k^harlεs/ or, heck, even /'χaRlεz/ for the latter too.

[Fyraltari]

Honestly, having regular names mispronounced does make for pretty good fantasy names. Francois (Fran-koyz), James (Ra-mess), Mickael (Mee-kay-hull) or Charles (Karleez)

G. R. R. Martin? Is that you?

[Laurentio III]

Tolkien is the undiscussed master of writing a name in a way and then telling readers that is pronunced in a totally, unexpected way.
"Yes, in english you would call him Smaug, but, actually..."

[Metastachydium]

G. R. R. Martin? Is that you?

Wait, he provides guidelines for pronouncing his cosmetically altered names?

Tolkien is the undiscussed master of writing a name in a way and then telling readers that is pronunced in a totally, unexpected way.
"Yes, in english you would call him Smaug, but, actually..."

Come again?
So far as I know, most of Tolkien's names that are not "translated" to Modern English are spelled phonetically with very consistent phoneme/grapheme correspondences.

[Laurentio III]

Come again?
So far as I know, most of Tolkien's names that are not "translated" to Modern English are spelled phonetically with very consistent phoneme/grapheme correspondences.

I read for fun a few guide to names in Lord of the Rings, and seemed quite complicated. (Linked one below, but there are a few).
Consider that I'm italian, and my first language is often "pronunced as written". So I need phonetical guides for names in other languages.

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[Metastachydium]

I read for fun a few guide to names in Lord of the Rings, and seemed quite complicated. (Linked one below, but there are a few).
Consider that I'm italian, and my first language is often "pronunced as written". So I need phonetical guides for names in other languages.

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Yes, your not having English as your first language makes me even more baffled. And no, there's nothing complicated about pronouncing words phonetically and not altering what a given grapheme represents based on its position within a word or largely as a whim. You might want to go over the guide you've just linked again; all it tells is basically "unlike English, Tolkien's names work on a one letter, one pronounciation basis". It's all incredibly consistent and straightforward. Heck, if you substituted k-s for c-s, words would look much the same if transliterated into IPA symbols.

[Eric the White]

Yeesh, not a lot of villains have that many vices.

I never really saw the Baron as the villain in Dune. He starts as the inciting force. (He and the Emperor cause the plot the happen) After that he's really just a foil for his nephew.