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2020-01-19, 07:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
I think the issue here is that they do have another choice left - they can get on with their own life and not reconcile with Inkyrius.
If Dr.Zero is correct they shouldn't want to reconcile.
The children complicate things but if Vaarsuvius has trusted Inkyrius to mind them for years then they have already conceeded that Inkyrius is a suitable parent and so no action is needed on that front.
On the other hand if Inkyrius is not an abusive spouse and Vaarsuvius wants to reconcile they should likely leave it until after the world is saved (or destroyed) and then devote the time that such would need, a sending should likely be to flee the plane and warn the elven authorities to evacuate as many people as possible - and it likely should not go to Inkyrius.
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2020-01-19, 09:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
Irrelevant. Inky doesn't need to know they were enchanted, they just have to not be under the effect of the spell anymore. "Wait, why am I back with spouse, after all they did? What in the nine hells was I thinking?! Divorce!"
Ignoring the large bonuses Inky would likely get on that Sense Motive check, of course.
Because we've already had one Tarquin in the story.
That's a shame, because that that explanation is really biased and poor.
Did the surgeon agree to do plastic surgery for some cartel leaders in order to gain control over a paramilitary? Because V sold their soul for power. That's not just "V is a wizard, so compare that to other impressive jobs." Any real-world analog you want to bring out for that has to be equally weighty and, well, terrifying. Your examples are clearly not. For example, you say V is doing the equivalent of a police officer clenching a fist, when it's more the equivalent of that officer pointing their gun at their own family. You're stacking the deck against Inky and then saying "see? They're terrible at cards!"Last edited by Peelee; 2020-01-19 at 09:43 AM.
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2
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2020-01-19, 09:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-01-19, 12:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
Number of Character Appearances VII - To Absent Friends
Currently playing a level 20 aasimar necromancer named Zebulun Salathiel and a level 9 goliath diviner named Lo-Kag.
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2020-01-19, 12:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
Arrrgh, here be me extended sig!
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2020-01-19, 12:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-01-19, 12:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
That's a good point, although "turning into V" would certainly qualify as character development for him.
On an unrelated note, I can't believe anyone is considering bringing up Mindrape as a possibility to be used for anything. There's a reason that spell's in the Book of Vile Darkness, people. There are very, very few discussions improved by bringing spells like that into the mix.Last edited by Emanick; 2020-01-19 at 12:56 PM.
Number of Character Appearances VII - To Absent Friends
Currently playing a level 20 aasimar necromancer named Zebulun Salathiel and a level 9 goliath diviner named Lo-Kag.
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2020-01-19, 01:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
How many times can my free soul be sold
while we still can meet in our bed?
The answer, my mate, is fewer than sixteenOriginally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2020-01-19, 01:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
Arrrgh, here be me extended sig!
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2020-01-19, 01:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
Don't know much about courtesy
so I've given up custody
In spite of what's in the book
We aren't monsters, you're a cook
But I do know that I love you
And I know that if you love me, too
What a wonderful world this would beOriginally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2020-01-19, 03:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
This does, by the way, not sound like something a victim of abuse would say.
Anyone who does talk like this and thinks they are in an abusive relationship ... is likely to actually be the abuser.
Therefore I do not think Vaarsuvius would say something like this. Vaarsuvius has been terribly inconsiderate a number of times, but V's action do not show a pattern typical of abuse.
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2020-01-19, 08:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
Sometimes I wonder if any thought at all was put into the decisions of which spells got alignment descriptors. I'm personally not a fan of the alignment spell descriptors (I'd rather decide which spells are evil to cast based on what they do and how they are used), but given that they are in the game, Programmed Amnesia definitely deserves the Evil tag.
Exactly what I was thinking.
So, if V and Inky were in completely different situations and did completely different things, and Inky was abusive, then Inky would be abusive and V would be in the right? Is that really your argument?
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2020-01-19, 09:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
Yeah, I'm not actually surprised (although most of the people whom I'd expect to have brought up this sort of thing in the past don't seem to be around anymore). Usually when I say "I can't believe it," I mean "I can totally believe it, but I really wish I couldn't."
Number of Character Appearances VII - To Absent Friends
Currently playing a level 20 aasimar necromancer named Zebulun Salathiel and a level 9 goliath diviner named Lo-Kag.
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2020-01-20, 03:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
So.
Who won?Orth Plays: Currently Baldur's Gate II
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2020-01-20, 03:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
Genuinely unsure. Under my understanding of “passing commentary,” I would say that I won, because I consider “explicit, on-panel resolution” a step up from that. (My original reasoning at the time, after all, was “this is too big of a deal to not get resolved or otherwise dealt with.”) However, at least one other person at the time seemed to think that The Pilgrim won, and I admit that the phrasing was ambiguous. Perhaps we should have had a more rigorously defined bet.
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2020-01-20, 04:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
What does the sphinx pox have to do with V's relationship to Inkyrius other than having appeared in the same comic as V casting a sending spell?
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2020-01-20, 04:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
Number of Character Appearances VII - To Absent Friends
Currently playing a level 20 aasimar necromancer named Zebulun Salathiel and a level 9 goliath diviner named Lo-Kag.
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2020-01-20, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-01-21, 03:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
Laughed out loud, I did.
Interesting take on that conversation.
I have some RL observations that I cannot share, so I'll say again: interesting take. Nicely played.
Spoiler: What was actually in V's sending spellTwo pepperoni, mushroom, and onion large pizzas; thin crust. One large vegetarian special, original crust. Delivery address is Mechane, port cabin. Sunflower seeds; large bag.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2020-01-21 at 05:10 PM.
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2020-01-22, 02:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
You'll leave our adopted progeny into my custody, or else I'll destroy you and everything related to you by blood! This is the last warning!
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2020-02-26, 05:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
Well, looks like, thanks to Julia, this won't be a problem in the near future.
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2020-02-26, 12:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
Only if she's right about being able to make it work without the blood oath. Making a more powerful version of a spell while simultaneously lowering its spell level strikes me as a tad ambitious for an apprentice wizard.
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2020-02-26, 12:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
The blood oath and Familicide both indicate that in TOotS universe, "related" is significant for spell-targetting.
I might believe she can lower the spell level by adding a "closely related" requirement.
Note that she's not all that apprentice-like, she was casting level 2 spells a year ago, and is casting what may well be a level 3 here, apprentice wizards cast cantrips (those are supposed to be spells invented for apprentices to study while they learn how to cast after all). She's presumably a fairly advanced student.Last edited by Doug Lampert; 2020-02-26 at 12:52 PM.
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2020-02-26, 03:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Suppose Vaarsuvius' 25-word Sending was to Inkyrius. What would it be?
Agreed 1000%.
“What if V were a Lawful Good paladin who was trying to save a basket of kittens from a burning kitten factory? Huh? What then?”
As my dad used to say, “If we had some bacon, we could have some bacon and eggs, if we had some eggs.”
What V actually was at that moment was an arrogant True Neutral wizard, wracked by guilt and failure, invested with terrifying power, desperate with fear and the desire not to waste the resources they had been lent temporarily from an ill-advised deal with literal devils. On their way to attempt to destroy the unthinkably powerful undead sorcerer who had already killed their leader and broken their party. Alone. With the same kind of arcane power that had failed before, just more of it. Because V cannot admit to being wrong.
I think that’s a much more accurate picture:
Not a good-hearted cop on the way to give a talk on crosswalk safety to orphans. Not a prominent surgeon be route to life-saving vascular surgery for the president of the Global Happy Puppy Club.Last edited by Fish; 2020-02-26 at 03:58 PM.