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    Default Girl Genius XXVII: Hoy! Hennybody else not dead?

    It is a world ruled by Mad Science! Things happen. Usually, they happen to other people. This is entertainment. That's when the front door gets blown in- And you belatedly realize that, once again, you are doomed to be the entertainment in another exciting installment of: GIRL GENIUS!

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    A compilation (and much easier to read if you're just catching up) of the first three chapters can be found here at the GG website.
    And if one goes to snapbird.org and types in "Othar" in the 'Who?' field, all of Othar's adventures can be read on one page (albiet in reverse order of posting - Now must have a Twitter account to use).
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    Hoy, anybody else find the new thread?

    Continuing recent conversation: is it a retcon that Zeetha got dosed with the Jagerdraught? Do we care? Does this make her a more or less suitable warrior princess? Will her family notice any change in her behavior when she gets back home?
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    She's been gone for years at this point. Maybe it would be better to ask if they'll even recognize her.

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    While she had been gone for years she hasn't changed/aged that much since we first saw her. Visiting Skif will be interesting enough I think with Gil being there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockphed View Post
    Hoy, anybody else find the new thread?

    Continuing recent conversation: is it a retcon that Zeetha got dosed with the Jagerdraught?
    More of a confirmation, I think? There were always some implications that both Gil and Zeetha's miraculously fast recoveries involved some risky techniques, and it's pretty natural to assume that miracle cures in the place where the Jaegers go to get patched up probably involve the Jaegerdraught.. I think before I at least had assumed it was a derivative treatment or something developed from the draught and not the 'well it'll probably kill you but if not you get to be superhuman' draught itself.

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    If the Baron is a Jäger now, that could be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinyadan View Post
    If the Baron is a Jäger now, that could be interesting.
    Wait, what? The baron only took the Jaegertroth in the mad rumors that Van's mother heard in the market.
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    Rockphed said it well.
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    Klaus loaded Gil up with all kinds of extras, including (probably, per Gkika) Jager tech.

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    so did Gil figure it out?

    what’s with the Anima?
    * my emphasis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agi Hammerthief View Post
    so did Gil figure it out?

    what’s with the Anima?
    He's referring to Lucrezia's anima, i.,e he's saying he groks why Higg's hadn't yet (to Gill's knowledge) revealed his true identity to Agatha (and confirming that he is aware that Higgs is a Jaegar).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nahmer View Post
    He's referring to Lucrezia's anima, i.,e he's saying he groks why Higg's hadn't yet (to Gill's knowledge) revealed his true identity to Agatha (and confirming that he is aware that Higgs is a Jaegar).
    ok, thanks
    then he‘s also saying that he knows exactly what they’re discussing without having listened.
    * my emphasis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockphed View Post
    Wait, what? The baron only took the Jaegertroth in the mad rumors that Van's mother heard in the market.
    I think he means Gil, as in, if he was given the Jaegerdraught in Mama Gkika's, like Zeetha was, does that make him a Jaeger-in-waiting also?

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    Poor Higgs. Gil had him "out spied". Of course Gil did the same thing to England's greatest spy as well. I think it's great that Agatha thought Gil would figure it out and is happy she was right.
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    Of course, other than the Doylist reason (to reveal it to the audience, and to take some air out of Higgs' sails), Gil did just reveal that he knew all along for no particularly clear gain (maybe he really does need to talk to Higgs about the details for as of yet unexplained reasons, or he's telegraphing to them all 'we're all on the same team here, look at me laying my cards on the table').

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie the Duck View Post
    Of course, other than the Doylist reason (to reveal it to the audience, and to take some air out of Higgs' sails), Gil did just reveal that he knew all along for no particularly clear gain (maybe he really does need to talk to Higgs about the details for as of yet unexplained reasons, or he's telegraphing to them all 'we're all on the same team here, look at me laying my cards on the table').
    I think that the problem is that he now is a public figure and a ruler. As a ruler, it's best for him if people accept that he is an exceptional individual, so going against him is ill-advised. It also sends a message to Mr Spymaster: "you can't hide things from me, so you can save yourself the trouble and just tell me."
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    Knowing Gil, he probably had a number of good reasons for doing what he did. Which is always a good way of doing things.
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    Heh. Gil is great at having knowledge he shouldn't have.
    Or at least looking the part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie the Duck View Post
    Gil did just reveal that he knew all along for no particularly clear gain
    Agatha's look and words in the last panel says otherwise.

    I wonder of van Mekhan Jr is going to manage to keep track of these odds after all this time...
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    So when did Gil find out? You'd think that his Klaus overlay would have reacted badly to the knowledge, so perhaps he figured it out post-removal.

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    I think one of my favorite things about this is the degree to which Gil is "We can talk about this when you feel comfortable" vs Tarvek's needling Higgs over it to show he knows.

    Quote Originally Posted by wingnutx View Post
    So when did Gil find out? You'd think that his Klaus overlay would have reacted badly to the knowledge, so perhaps he figured it out post-removal.
    He had plenty of opportunities to pick up clues. Higgs was around him when he was messing around in the time-stopped Mechanicsburg, specifically when they pulled Vole out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinvak View Post
    I think one of my favorite things about this is the degree to which Gil is "We can talk about this when you feel comfortable" vs Tarvek's needling Higgs over it to show he knows.
    I find that Tarvek really doesn't make sense. He has a personality/informed attribute disparity. This kind of behavior (which is absolutely on-brand for the character we see) should have him dead a thousand times over as the 'weaselly little snake who just happens to be on the protagonist's team' character we're told he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingnutx View Post
    So when did Gil find out? You'd think that his Klaus overlay would have reacted badly to the knowledge, so perhaps he figured it out post-removal.
    I think he knew since Der Kastel arc or at least suspected it strongly as on This Page. And remember, he found Higgs is a Mamma's Bar so he had a lot more info than Tarvek. The Klaus overlay didn't know what Gil knows, so if Gil were careful (and you can bet he was) Klaus shouldn't have been able to figure it out. Would not surprise me if Gil wasn't making feeding info to Higgs to allow some supplies to "go missing" to the residents of Mechanicsburg in the tunnels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockphed View Post
    Hoy, anybody else find the new thread?

    Continuing recent conversation: is it a retcon that Zeetha got dosed with the Jagerdraught? Do we care? Does this make her a more or less suitable warrior princess? Will her family notice any change in her behavior when she gets back home?
    Well, first off she's gonna need a het.

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    One possibility I like is that he figured out that Higgs is something that works for the Heterodyne but he isn't fully confident that he knows what Higgs is. Thus the details. Mostly I like that so he actually doesn't know everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grytorm View Post
    One possibility I like is that he figured out that Higgs is something that works for the Heterodyne but he isn't fully confident that he knows what Higgs is. Thus the details. Mostly I like that so he actually doesn't know everything.
    More than likely, since Higgs is, as he stated, an anomaly. He's the SOLE person to have drunk the jaegerdraught who didn't die OR visibly become a monster.

    So everyone's thought would be that he's some sort of experiment, but not that he was a jaeger - cause jaeger = pointy teeth + claws, maybe horns...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sihnfahl View Post
    More than likely, since Higgs is, as he stated, an anomaly. He's the SOLE person to have drunk the jaegerdraught who didn't die OR visibly become a monster.
    Well, Mama Gkika is close--apart from the teeth and the colour-changing skin she looks fairly normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by factotum View Post
    Well, Mama Gkika is close--apart from the teeth and the colour-changing skin she looks fairly normal.
    Same with Jenka, she looks quite human exept for the unusual skin colour and eyes.

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    Weren't Jenka's fangs literally ripped out by the Storm King? I think she complained about it to his corpse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinyadan View Post
    Weren't Jenka's fangs literally ripped out by the Storm King? I think she complained about it to his corpse.
    I had to go back and look, and yes, that is correct.

    Altough I'd say that makes her and Mama Gkikka about equal in how human they look(ed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grytorm View Post
    One possibility I like is that he figured out that Higgs is something that works for the Heterodyne but he isn't fully confident that he knows what Higgs is. Thus the details. Mostly I like that so he actually doesn't know everything.
    This might actually be closer to the truth than anyone realizes. Or hell, Gil might even actually suspect Higg's true nature, but decided it wasn't a problem, relevant or otherwise worth making a fuss or letting Higgs know that he knows, specially since it'd mean losing such competent minion.

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