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    And let's not forget, mustn't pay the players. Oh, how I'd clutch my pearls if the people doing all the actual work got fairly compensated.
    Supposedly the players are paid in degrees. Since most scholarshipped players tend to have problems actually earning that degree, I am not convinced that anyone is going to honor said degrees. I know my alma mater put extensive effort in to getting the athletes to actually pass their classes, but they also tried very hard to be an undergraduate teaching institution, rather than a research university.
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    Supposedly the players are paid in degrees.
    Which is significantly under paying them. Not to mention the ban on them getting paid for their likeness or other licensing rights.
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    I'm confused. If the teams lose money, what exactly is the point of maintaining them?
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    I'm confused. If the teams lose money, what exactly is the point of maintaining them?
    The same reason why every Hollywood movie blockbuster made in recent years made no net profit at all. Other people make money off them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblizz View Post
    The same reason why every Hollywood movie blockbuster made in recent years made no net profit at all. Other people make money off them.
    There is even a term for this called "Hollywood Accounting". It used loopholes, workarounds and some VERY sketchy practices to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HandofShadows View Post
    There is even a term for this called "Hollywood Accounting". It used loopholes, workarounds and some VERY sketchy practices to work.
    Indeed. I watched a youtube vid about that. Until that I didn't know it was more than a derogatory term for unspecific vague "they do stuff odd in Hollywood". Like some creative accounting is always implied in all major corporations, but that was impressive in it's scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veti View Post
    I'm confused. If the teams lose money, what exactly is the point of maintaining them?
    Prestige and advertising. Big universities are all nonprofits, so they're not answerable to shareholders about why they do x or y non-profitable thing (thank heavens). Having a good whatever-ball team is considered a good way to attract students, and enhances the university's image.

    After all, would the typical student want to go to Fun Cool School with a kickass football team and a big party every gameday, or Dork Loser Central who cut their team?

    The really weird part is that this extends even to schools whose teams are Division 3 jokes. At the far end you get places that give you pizza to even show up at the game, but they gotta keep it around for some dumbass reason. That reason being, I suspect optics and to give the campus tour guides something to talk about.
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    Sheriff: This all seems pretty off-topic. Maybe start a college athletics thread, if you want to keep discussing this here. And if you do, steer clear of discussing higher administration of state schools, which are essentially government entities.
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    Is there any site that has death per million "adjusted" for age demographics? Or maybe just calculates a multiplier how much deadlier/less deadly you would expect it to be (all else being equal which it of course isn't) because of age profile? Qatar (high number of infected low number of death) has made me curious. Qatar has an rather extreme age profile ("55-64 years: 3.44% (male 62,683 /female 18,731)
    65 years and over: 1.06% (male 16,295 /female 8,799) (2018 est.)") so I am curious who else does. But smaller differences like the USA having a younger population than most developed nations is interesting too and am curious how high the theoretical difference would be. But collecting the demographics data and doing it myself sounds like too much work so does anyone know something like that?

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    The Johns Hopkins website may have that, seeing as how they've become a clearing house for most Covid info.

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    I would treat a graph "adjusted" for that kind of parameter with some scepticism. It risks compounding the usual fog of inherently untrustworthy and hard-to-compare statistics with a whole new layer of obfuscation.

    At the least, I'd want to know the precise quantitative rules used for weighting samples, the sources of raw data, and the basis on which sampled countries were selected. I suspect that with careful choices of these things, you could make a graph like that show pretty much anything you want.
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    I thought most countries break down the data into age categories.

    The main problem remains though, none of the data collection in countries is any way standardidzed enough that we can really make very detailed comparisons.

    It all reminds me of the search for the independent value of IS project implementation success. Every study had slightly different values going into it that were statistically significant but might not be so in another study. And the only values and instrument to investigate (i.e. questions to ask) was so generic and bland you couldn't derive anything particularly profound out of it.


    Basically, we cannot pare down the data enough as in most cases we do not have it to really dig into the, who, what and why of corona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veti View Post
    I would treat a graph "adjusted" for that kind of parameter with some scepticism. It risks compounding the usual fog of inherently untrustworthy and hard-to-compare statistics with a whole new layer of obfuscation.

    At the least, I'd want to know the precise quantitative rules used for weighting samples, the sources of raw data, and the basis on which sampled countries were selected. I suspect that with careful choices of these things, you could make a graph like that show pretty much anything you want.
    It's actually pretty simple. Take number of people in specified age band from your census data, number of dead in that age band from the medical reporting system and do a bit of basic math. 800 dead out of two million (for instance) works out to 400 deaths per million.

    If you actually follow the rules, statistics doesn't flex much.

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