Fyraltari's Fiercely Friendly Random Banter Thread #226

[Fyraltari]

Hello friends! This is the two hundred and twenty-sixth iteration of the random banter thread where we all come to talk about whatever we feel like talking about without making a dedicated thread for it.

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[Qwertystop]

Hello, new thread!

Still out of work. Getting flooded by recruiters, most of whom then ghost (or possibly the companies they sent things to ghosted). Soon to run out of milk and flour; should have stocked up on those instead of just rice.

[Anonymouswizard]

Why do people insist on filling horror films with blood and four instead of suspense? I saw the new Colour Out of Space from and it was amazing when it was building suspense and terrible when it abandoned it to be 'eooo so scary'.

Also people are apparently annoyed that BritBox isn't wallpapering Doctor Who by removing problematic serials. I mean, I'm fully for the content warnings, maybe we also get one for mediocrity on Talons of Weng-Chan, but I don't see the point in pretending they never happened. Maybe we can talk about them instead, use them to educate about what's unacceptable. Like using a stuffed rat as your monster.

[LaZodiac]

Hello, new thread!

Still out of work. Getting flooded by recruiters, most of whom then ghost (or possibly the companies they sent things to ghosted). Soon to run out of milk and flour; should have stocked up on those instead of just rice.

Good luck Qwerty! You can endure! As for catching recruiters I suggest using a fishing hook. That'll stop em from ghosting you.

Which is to say, give them a more immediate reason not to just poof off the face of the earth.

Why do people insist on filling horror films with blood and four instead of suspense? I saw the new Colour Out of Space from and it was amazing when it was building suspense and terrible when it abandoned it to be 'eooo so scary'.

Because there's a clear disconnect between what is and isn't scary for some people. Also for some people, you do WANT to have the eventual reveal to reduce tension.

[DataNinja]

I'm fully for the content warnings, maybe we also get one for mediocrity

"Warning! This product may contain semi-competence, ineptitude, and a sheer underwhelmingness. Verwer discretion is... ehhh."

[Anonymouswizard]

GoodBecause there's a clear disconnect between what is and isn't scary for some people. Also for some people, you do WANT to have the eventual reveal to reduce tension.

I'm not saying don't have the payoff. I'm saying don't have the payoff teen times in a two hour film.

But also, it kind of goes against what makes Lovecraft work, and has to change the colour itself to pull it off. It's not a bad film, but cosmic horror lives and dies in how much I can understand what it's doing (on that note, thank you exposition for ruining that).

Oh, and rule number two of Lovecraftian storytelling is that you don't shove the Necronomicon in unless you're going to entwine it with the story. The BBC managed it with the case of Charles Dexter Ward, I'm sure they could have managed it here if they wanted to.

[Dimonite]

Why do people insist on filling horror films with blood and four instead of suspense?

Because fake blood is cheap and writing is hard

As a point of curiosity that came up with the birth of the new thread: 50 threads in between the same person making one seems like a LOT now (for perspective, we have a few threads to go before I'd be able to make one again, and I last did so in 2012). Was that a rule we'd consider revisiting, or is it ironclad for reasons beyond my ken?

(to be clear: I don't have a problem with the rule as it is, I just don't understand why it is what it is and I'd like to.)

[DataNinja]

Because fake blood is cheap and writing is hard

As a point of curiosity that came up with the birth of the new thread: 50 threads in between the same person making one seems like a LOT now (for perspective, we have a few threads to go before I'd be able to make one again, and I last did so in 2012). Was that a rule we'd consider revisiting, or is it ironclad for reasons beyond my ken?

(to be clear: I don't have a problem with the rule as it is, I just don't understand why it is what it is and I'd like to.)

I dunno if we even have 50 people who participate here now, yeah. But... I guess we burn that bridge if we get to it.

[factotum]

I guess that rule dates from the times when Random Banter threads would burn through 50 pages in a matter of days, so you'd get a couple of years in between a person creating their thread. Nowadays, of course, you'd probably only get maybe 10 threads over the same 2 year period.

[2D8HP]

I may have mentioned a couple...

...of thousand times that Fritz Leiber's Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser tales that helped inspire Arneson and Gygax to create Dungeons & Dragons

"....those who don't care for Burroughs'
Martian adventures where John Carter is groping through black pits, who feel no thrill upon reading Howard's Conan saga, who do not enjoy the de Camp & Pratt fantasies or Fritz Leiber's Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser pitting their swords against evil sorceries will not be likely to find Dungeons & Dragons to their taste."

-E. Gary Gygax
Tactical Studies Rules Editor
1 November 1973
Lake Geneva, Wisconsin

"The most immediate influences upon AD&D were probably de Camp & Pratt, REH, Fritz Leiber, Jack Vance, HPL, and A. Merritt."

-Gygax
16 May 1979

....are favorites of mine, well apropos of that I invite you to read From Lankhmar to the Tenderloin from a 1991 issue of Science Fiction Eye (which I first read from the print version in a corner of the Dark Carnival bookstore, which is where I met a very frail Fritz Leiber)

After his wife's death Leiber moved to San Francisco where he wrote "Ill Met in Lankhmar", and "The City of the black toga"/"The City of Sevenscore Thousand Smokes" is infused by where Leiber lived in the later tales (though my '70's paperbacks insisted Lankhmar's "Street of Gods" was inspired by Telegraph Avenue across the bay in Berkeley).

I first walked into the Dark Carnival bookstore in 1979 when it was on Telegraph Avenue across the street from my junior high school (the first book I bought there was A Princess of Mars), and now it - and all bookstores in my area - is closed due to the "shelter in place" order, I already gave up alcohol for - a thing I do for a few weeks every year around this time of year where I make a sacrifice of some sort and go without something, and I have more books hoarded than I'll likely ever get to read, plus when I heard that the public libraries were about to close for weeks I rushed out and quickly checked out seven books an hour before closing (some medieval and renaissance "living history" books, two Ursula LeGuin anthologies, and John Steinbeck's The Acts of King Arthur and His Noble Knights), but I'm already finding the knowledge that I can't get anymore books for who knows how long vexing.

Plagues are lame!

[Anonymouswizard]

I feel like a creep.

Okay, so some things earlier stressed me out, so while I was adding some more photos to my OkCupid account I might have changed my settings to show me trans people (plus a few others). On the one hand I feel like an utter creep for being so discriminatory, on the other hand I feel a lot happier about liking profiles. Am I a bad (part-)human? That's not a serious question, I just feel like a creep because I feel like I shouldn't be discriminating.

[Fyraltari]

Preferences are not prejudice. Being attracted to certain groups of people more than others is perfectly healthy, sane and moral.

‘I’m not attracted to [group]’ is fine.
‘I don’t want to work with [group]’ is not.

Nobody has any right to demand from you that you date anybody you don’t fancy and nobody can tell you who to fancy or who not to fancy.

[Aotrs Commander]

I have a very simple rule applicable to all such situations: what two (or more) (legally-)adult sapient/sentient creatures get up to on their own time is entirely their own business and no-one's else, provided they are not doing harm to anyone else.

("I'm offended that you like things I don't want you to like" does not consitute "harm.")

[Anonymouswizard]

Preferences are not prejudice. Being attracted to certain groups of people more than others is perfectly healthy, sane and moral.

‘I’m not attracted to [group]’ is fine.
‘I don’t want to work with [group]’ is not.

Nobody has any right to demand from you that you date anybody you don’t fancy and nobody can tell you who to fancy or who not to fancy.

Well considering I constantly get short of breath browsing the site now, yeah I might have a 'preference', so to speak. A friend thinks it's a full blown fetish (seeing as I'm very very picky with cis people but not with trans people).

Man, I need to take some time out to calm down before going back. Can't keep liking, alt-tabbing away to reply to a message,and being shocked by the next profile.

[The Fury]

I dunno if we even have 50 people who participate here now, yeah. But... I guess we burn that bridge if we get to it.

... I could try posting less often if you think that would help.

I mean, my posts usually come in two flavors: "Here's some unfunny nonsense!" and "I big sad."

[Anonymouswizard]

... I could try posting less often if you think that would help.

I mean, my posts usually come in two flavors: "Here's some unfunny nonsense!" and "I big sad."

At least it's better than umpteen 'I really want a cuddle cuddy' posts

[BisectedBrioche]

I'm back at work tomorrow, serving the pasta seeking hordes.

But at least I finally got to bake something!

https://twitter.com/BisectedBrioche/...52966205292544

[DataNinja]

Well considering I constantly get short of breath browsing the site now, yeah I might have a 'preference', so to speak. A friend thinks it's a full blown fetish (seeing as I'm very very picky with cis people but not with trans people).

Man, I need to take some time out to calm down before going back. Can't keep liking, alt-tabbing away to reply to a message,and being shocked by the next profile.

Being attracted to certain characteristics of a person is fine. It's the same as, say, being attracted to redheads. However, if you reduce a person to just being that characteristic - you're with a person just because they're a redhead, and not because you really care about the person beneath - then that's more of a problem (for a relationship, at least - I've gathered that one night stands have different standards).

A good gauge is to, if you get to know that person, ask yourself if you'd still be with them if they changed what made them 'appealing' to the superficial glance. If that redhead dyed her hair black, would that cause you to lose all interest because she didn't have that red hair? If so, then that's an issue - that person is a characteristic to you, not a person.

[Mith]

I'm back at work tomorrow, serving the pasta seeking hordes.

But at least I finally got to bake something!

https://twitter.com/BisectedBrioche/...52966205292544

Looks great!

[Sermil]

I feel like a creep.

Okay, so some things earlier stressed me out, so while I was adding some more photos to my OkCupid account I might have changed my settings to show me trans people (plus a few others). On the one hand I feel like an utter creep for being so discriminatory, on the other hand I feel a lot happier about liking profiles. Am I a bad (part-)human? That's not a serious question, I just feel like a creep because I feel like I shouldn't be discriminating.

I mean, I'm a heterosexual male. If my beloved wife woke up male tomorrow, I might still like him/her, I might even hang around with him/her, but I wouldn't be attracted to him/her in the same way. I wouldn't, I think, feel the lusty/romantic feelings I do now. That's what heterosexual means -- I need that "femaleness" for those circuits in my brain to light up. The vast majority of people are either heterosexual or homosexual, they are only attracted to a subset of people. You just have a smaller subset.

Or, in the immortal words of the sage Dan Savage, "The [body part] wants what the [body part] wants."

[BisectedBrioche]

Looks great!

Thanks! I was going to make buns, but I got lazy and made a loaf instead.

[Anonymouswizard]

Being attracted to certain characteristics of a person is fine. It's the same as, say, being attracted to redheads. However, if you reduce a person to just being that characteristic - you're with a person just because they're a redhead, and not because you really care about the person beneath - then that's more of a problem (for a relationship, at least - I've gathered that one night stands have different standards).

A good gauge is to, if you get to know that person, ask yourself if you'd still be with them if they changed what made them 'appealing' to the superficial glance. If that redhead dyed her hair black, would that cause you to lose all interest because she didn't have that red hair? If so, then that's an issue - that person is a characteristic to you, not a person.

I get whatr you mean, but it still feels wrong, I spend time trying to tell people not to discriminate against people due to what they were born as, and yet I'm more than willing to do so in my 'romantic' (hehe, I wish) life.

I mean, I'm a heterosexual male. If my beloved wife woke up male tomorrow, I might still like him/her, I might even hang around with him/her, but I wouldn't be attracted to him/her in the same way. I wouldn't, I think, feel the lusty/romantic feelings I do now. That's what heterosexual means -- I need that "femaleness" for those circuits in my brain to light up. The vast majority of people are either heterosexual or homosexual, they are only attracted to a subset of people. You just have a smaller subset.

Or, in the immortal words of the sage Dan Savage, "The [body part] wants what the [body part] wants."

Combinging this with what the previous post I've quoted says, obviously your wife is just a characteristic to you

In all seriousness, I get what both of you are saying, but this kind of confusion is why I can feel bad about this stuff.

[Bartmanhomer]

I'm very happy today.

[DataNinja]

I get whatr you mean, but it still feels wrong, I spend time trying to tell people not to discriminate against people due to what they were born as, and yet I'm more than willing to do so in my 'romantic' (hehe, I wish) life.

No, it's understandable. It's easy to feel like you're slighting someone because of something involuntary on your end. Attraction is very much one of those weird things.

Combinging this with what the previous post I've quoted says, obviously your wife is just a characteristic to you

In all seriousness, I get what both of you are saying, but this kind of confusion is why I can feel bad about this stuff.

Look, it was a general test, doesn't cover everything.

[Aotrs Commander]

I get whatr you mean, but it still feels wrong, I spend time trying to tell people not to discriminate against people due to what they were born as, and yet I'm more than willing to do so in my 'romantic' (hehe, I wish) life.

So what about people who aren't attracted to any people?

Or to those, whom I'm given to understand who exist, who are only attracted to one specific person?

Should they feel bad because they aren't attracted to everyone?

No?

Well, then.



The idea that everyone should be Captain Jack Harkness or else they are being some form of "-ist," I would say, woukd be actually far more "wrong" than having some general or specific sexual preferences (or lack thereof). I mean, it'd be tantamount to shaming anyone that isn't omnisexual.



Having preferences (and/or lack thereof - either because of disinterest or pansexuality) is not discrimination; and I will absolutely set on permenent lightning the soul of any fool who dares to presume to tell ME that I should be attracted to someone/thing so as to not be committing some terrible social sin. With extreme prejudice.

[Tvtyrant]

Where it becomes discriminatory is when the desired feature is bigoted in nature.

Like how asian women look? Perfectly fine. Like asian cultures? Perfectly fine. Like asian women because you idealize the submissive housewife? Not fine.

Like gingers? Fine. Like hooking up? You do you. Like gingers because redheads are easy? Problem.

That is not to say that you can't marry a submissive asian woman or hookup with a ginger, but objectifying entire categories of people and rejecting them if they don't fit those categories is wrong. You aren't dating a person at that point, you are dating an ideal.

[The Fury]

I'm very happy today.

Awesome. Did something really good happen?

[Bartmanhomer]

Awesome. Did something really good happen?

Not really. Apart from that, I'm going to make another homebrew D&D 3.5 deity based on Pathfinder and my plans at home this weekend. Also, I'm very happy most of the time anyway.

[Fyraltari]

Having preferences (and/or lack thereof - either because of disinterest or pansexuality) is not discrimination

I agree with everything you said but I feel like being a pedantic ****.

It definitely is discrimination but it isn’t wrong. Bigotry and prejudice are always wrong but discrimination isn’t necessarily.
Discrimination only means ‘selecting someone or something based on certain criteria’. That in itself isn’t wrong, but the criteria used can be wrong. An employer has to be discriminate according to skill but not to ethnicity, for example.
On the flipside it’s generally agreed that indiscriminate violence is worse than violence aimed solely at ennemy combattants.

The vast majority of people are very discriminate in regards to choosing their romantic/sexual partners according to physical characteristics and personality traits. And that is perfectly fine because it’s not passing judgement on someone as a human being but regarding their fitness as a (soul)mate.

[LaZodiac]

I'm glad to see Plague Times have gotten everyone starting to go stir crazy.

I know I kinda am. I recorded and edited like five or six videos in two days.