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2020-04-02, 11:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Oct 2013
Questions on Domain Access Sorcerer
Does the Domain Access Sorcerer (Complete Champion 52) cost just a level 1 and level 2 spell known or does it cost 1 spell known at every spell level as you level up and gain higher level spells?
Your depth of belief allows you to channel divine power the
way a cleric does. By doing so, you gain access to a single
cleric domain.
Level: 5th.
Replaces: To gain this benefit, you do not learn a new
1st-level sorcerer spell and a new 2nd-level sorcerer spell at
5th level. From now on, you know one less sorcerer spell
that you can cast at each subsequent level (not counting the
domain spells from this alternative class feature).
Benefit: Choose one cleric domain. If you worship
a specific deity, the domain you choose must be one to
which your deity grants access. You gain the granted
power of the chosen domain. In addition, you can cast one
domain spell of each spell level available to you per day
from that domain.
Also, where it says you can cast one domain spell of each spell level available per day, it's not really clear whether it means you cast them from your normal sorcerer spell slots or whether you get an additional spell slot specifically for your domain spells at each level (as a cleric does). Do they come out of your sorcerer spell slots or do you get a domain spell slot at each spell level?
Or is it between player and DM to figure it out since RAW is really unclear?
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2020-04-02, 11:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Sep 2014
Re: Questions on Domain Access Sorcerer
It looks unambiguous to me-- you lose a 1st level spell and 2nd level spell at 5th level, and you lose one spell of each subsequent level, starting with one 3rd level spell at 6th.
Whether or not you get domain slots for your domain spells is... up in the air, but I'd argue that if you're limited to one per level per day, that means you're not allowed to use your regular slots on them so you must gain bonus slots for them.
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2020-04-03, 09:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questions on Domain Access Sorcerer
Looks to me like you lose a spell at every spell level as you get access to them. But I'd also agree that since you get domain access as per cleric, that's full domain access including the granted power. Per page 20 of Complete Divine, they do not get bonus spell slots to use for it. And the spells are still cast as arcane spells.
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2020-04-03, 11:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Dec 2004
Re: Questions on Domain Access Sorcerer
It's not unclear at all. You have one less spell known at every spell level, as soon as you gain a new level of spells (you know one less sorcerer spell that you can cast at each subsequent level).
Only Clerics gain domain spell slots, per Complete Divine p20. The general rule there says Sorcerers who learn a domain spell can cast it as often as they have spell slots to spend, but the specific rule on that ACF says you're instead limited to one per level.
However, if you know a 2nd level domain spell, you can cast it from a 2nd level slot, again from a 3rd level slot, again from a 4th level slot, etc. but then you can't cast another 3rd or 4th level domain spell that day. You're limited to one spell of the domain spell category per spell level per day.
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2020-04-03, 03:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jul 2007
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Re: Questions on Domain Access Sorcerer
As written, it's not a great ACF. You lose too much for too little gain.
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2020-04-03, 05:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Oct 2013
Re: Questions on Domain Access Sorcerer
Per page 20 of Complete Divine, they do not get bonus spell slots to use for it. And the spells are still cast as arcane spells.
Only Clerics gain domain spell slots, per Complete Divine p20.
As written, it's not a great ACF. You lose too much for too little gain.