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2007-10-24, 04:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Can you cast an Immediate spell before your first initiative?
Ok, so combat starts, and I roll low. A monster moves to attack me before it gets to my first turn. Can I still cast a spell (such as Greater Mirror Image) if the spell only uses an Immediate action to cast?
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2007-10-24, 04:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you cast an Immediate spell before your first initiative?
Not generally, no, as you're flat-footed; it's explicitly called out under immediate actions.
Originally Posted by SRD
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Edit 2: Whahaha! I am ninja!Last edited by Jack_Simth; 2007-10-24 at 04:39 PM.
Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.
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2007-10-24, 04:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you cast an Immediate spell before your first initiative?
Well, I don't know how you'd cast G. Mirror Image as an immediate action, but in effect, yes. The rules do say, IIRC, that an immediate action need not be during your turn, but it must be somebody's turn. So you have to wait until the oppontents' turn has started, but you could still cast it before they act.
EDIT: Oh, yes, and you can't cast when you're flat-footed. That's one rule you can't get around.
So: Short Answer: NO
Long Answer: No, but in a bit you can.Last edited by Enzario; 2007-10-24 at 04:39 PM.
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2007-10-24, 04:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you cast an Immediate spell before your first initiative?
Not usually. When combat starts everyone is flat-footed and a flat-footed character cannot take immediate actions.
Spells that prevent you from being flat-footed, such as foresight, go around this problem and allows the caster to use immediate actions even before his first turn.
EDIT: ninjaed!Last edited by Rad; 2007-10-24 at 04:38 PM.
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2007-10-24, 04:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you cast an Immediate spell before your first initiative?
Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.
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2007-10-24, 04:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you cast an Immediate spell before your first initiative?
Or you have levels in divine oracle.
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2007-10-24, 04:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you cast an Immediate spell before your first initiative?
There is one spell that specifically allows you to cast it while flat-footed. That spell is Nerveskitter. Gives +5 to Initiative. Other then that, it takes Foresight to get around.
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2007-10-24, 04:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Can you cast an Immediate spell before your first initiative?
There's also at least one spell, Nerveskitter, which explicitly allows you to cast it during initiative resolution. But that's a special case, since the effect of the spell is to give you a bonus to your initiative roll.
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