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Oona and Belkar will bond over animal companions during a period of her seeming collaboration with the Order of the Stick, and the nature of their interactions will help advance Belkar's shift to an alignment north of CE. Oona will viciously betray and kill Belkar as he undertakes an action that is unambiguously heroic, and possibly world-saving.
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
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I've got two serious predictions:
1. Tarquin (presumably with pals) arrives and tries to interfere but is killed by Sabine. At this point Tarquin feels like too much of a loose end to be left dangling but not enough of a loose end to make for good sequel fodder, no matter what Elan says. Sabine's got the motive and ability to kill him and to add insult to injury it would ruin the narrative he's attempting to set up between himself and Elan.
I also suspect that it won't just be Tarquin who shows up - just about every surviving major character, ally or antagonist, will probably wind up converging on this. There'll probably be some sort of throwaway joke where some minor character like Pompey will either arrive by accident, or we'll cut to them somewhere on the other side of the world commenting something like "Why do I feel like there's somewhere I should be right now?"
2. Belkar pulls a Kraagor. We know Belkar's death is going to be final, and death by the Snarl is also final (at least based on the information we currently have). I also feel fairly confident that Belkar's going to make some sort of sacrifice just because that's the direction his character arc is moving in. It'd be a little silly for him to grow and learn to value people (well, animals, at least) above himself and then not have any payoff for that. In the past people have guessed that he'll die and the party won't want to raise him because he's so evil, but at this point they've been through enough together that that would feel like a pretty unsatisfying conclusion to Belkar's story.
In fact, I'm hoping that the Order of the Stick will actually be a foil to the Order of the Scribble here - rather than Soon sacrificing Kraagor and as a result tearing the party apart, Roy will try to sacrifice himself but Belkar will intervene and sacrifice himself instead, as a result binding the party closer together.
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Except that the people who are running it are also in it, and apparently are bound by rules about what they can and cannot do on the material plane - Xykon is rules free (respecting the limits of his power).
I suspect that if Xykon was aware of how the gods hands were so tied he would consider divinity beneath him also.
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I wonder if the Snarl will reveal itself to be a fully sapient entity capable of speech, only to present us with a very different version of what happened at the dawn of creation.
Trying to imagine being a cleric of the Snarl at the moment..."Come play in the darkness with me."
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Re: Predictions for book 7
I wonder if the Snarl will reveal itself to be a fully sapient entity capable of speech, only to present us with a very different version of what happened at the dawn of creation.
Trying to imagine being a cleric of the Snarl at the moment...
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Their plot has some deep strategy to it, in that their avowed aim seems to be to knock the good gods off of their perch and even do away with them. That seems to me a much higher bar to leap over, and a more profound change to All Things, than the "I want to rule the world" objective that Xykon has professed.
Also I suspect that Xykon would think becoming a fiend is beneath him.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2020-09-02 at 08:03 AM.
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
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b. greenstone (paraphrased):
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Interesting idea, to be sure, but the wrench tossed into those gears is Durkon's loyalty to Thor. Beyond that, I am not sure that Roy, having been to Celestia, would be keen on fighting against the good gods. I think he wants to end up there. Going
into battle against the good gods with demons, devils, and daemons on his team might be a bit much for his next review with a Deva.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2020-09-02 at 10:15 AM.
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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Not gonna happen. Thor has empathy. See strip 1140. I remember everyone who's ever worshipped me. (There are other markers and other strips, but that one stands out)
As for Roy, he'll just tell the deva he was redirecting the fiends's destructive impulses towards a just cause. Worked fine last time.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2020-09-02 at 11:24 AM.
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
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Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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Oh, yeah, the Snarl's not suddenly going to be buddy-buddy or anything, or even particularly sympathetic.
Just positing that it's not necessarily the mindless engine of destruction the gods have painted it out to be. In fact, if that reveal were even a possibility, it'd probably happen in a conversation with Xykon, of all people.
There's no concrete evidence for this, either. The idea's mostly stemming from a probably-misguided suspicion that the Snarl's trying to 'weave' its own planets (like the one in the latest rift where Thor and Odin are like, "...uhhh?"), to generate some semblance of life that will appreciate it for what it is/worshiping it, and failing...over...and over...and over...and over...and over..."Come play in the darkness with me."
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Well, even in that highly unlikely scenario (as he would have to skip Hel but then still end up in an Evil afterlife), again, Regenerate does not take the old body part back, it just creates an all-new one. So there would still be no reason for the arm he was holding to suddenly disappear. Especially when he wouldn't know when it was regenerated, and double especially if that was explicitly part of his damnation punishment.
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If the afterlife is based on the ideas of mortals and Sigdi believes that he was holding it then he might have been holding it, and if she regenerated it the afterlife equivalent might disappear as she feels that she had her arm back.
Still I find it unlikely that he is carrying around a spare wife arm lying around his afterlife.
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I'd like to throw in another unlikely prediction:
V will confess Familicide in front of everyone. I'm ambiguous on the timing, but I'm spitballing on them maybe? trying to persuade Redcloak to stand down.
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So I don't know if I think this will happen, I don't know if I want this to happen, I don't even know if I've already shared this in this thread, but I think that its quite possible that Roy isn't the one to destroy Xykon's skeleton, Belkar does right before his final death, redeeming him and sentencing Eugene to be stuck on the clouds forever.
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Here my set of crazy theories... I hope I am not copying anybody :)
*Oona is actually Serini in disguise
*O-Chul's death will be the catalyst for MITD rampage against Xykon
*MITD will reveal itself when charging and munching Xykon down to shreds
*IFCC will appear with a full army backing them up in the background: Tarquin's ex army and allies. Let's not forget that Sabine works for them and she has enough resources to become a leader after Tarquin is overthrown
*Vaarsuvius will vanquish IFCC as her supreme magic feat (how, though, I have no clue) and a step for atonement
*The world inside the rift was created by the Snarl will be a proof that the Snarl itself can create life. It will bring a new dimension to the conflict and this will not end up in destruction or permanent lockdown, rather on coexistence between the Gods' world and the Snarl's world
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It fits, regardless of how much it will annoy Eugene. Fits, but I hope not.
In one of Rich's posts, or in one of the books, I am pretty sure that he stated clearly that The Snarl is The MacGuffin, not an antagonist.Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
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Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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Death of the Author is a perfectly valid way to analyze literature. Death of the Author is an absolutely awful way to predict what will happen in an ongoing story. The author is the person who is writing, so if Rich says that the Snarl is a macguffin, and thus its exact powers don't matter to the plot, you can't use death of the author to dismiss that and say that in fact, what it can do will matter to what happens in book 7. You can say that the Snarl has agency and isn't a macguffin, but you can't say that agency will come into play, because the author said it wouldn't.
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(Quick question: how exactly does strip no. 945 prove that the Snarl has some some manner of „agency” we were not previously aware of? All said strip shows is the Snarl bursting out of an open Rift which is one of those things we kind of always knew it could do.)
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It doesn't.
There's a possibility that somebody else (either from this world or a previous one) beat Xykon to the punch and has control over the Snarl already (having used its divine energy to make that planet, which is possibly said entity's BoO), but at this stage of the comic that would be a Giant Space Flea from Nowhere moment (i.e. not desirable). It would be someone from the main comic who we know already, and that just doesn't fit unless someone's been seriously holding out on us.
It could've been that the Snarl only targets life-forms, but the Crayons of Time segment implies the Snarl rips the planet physically into pieces, and Thor and Odin wouldn't have been mystified about a planet being inside the rift in #1150.
So something other than the gods made that planet; super-curious as to who or what.
EDIT: There's also a vanishingly small possibility that the Snarl did not annihilate all of the Eastern Pantheon, maybe even that in fact a member of the Eastern Pantheon managed to tap into the Snarl and used it to covertly murder the rest of his/her family (so extremely Evil) and then went into hiding with it, constantly absorbing whatever the Snarl soaks up from failed worlds that the other gods don't harvest quickly enough, but...yeah, I don't like that. As mentioned, Xykon's the antagonist.Last edited by Edea; 2020-09-17 at 05:40 PM.
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