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    I've never seen "driving hung over" brought up as a major issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max_Killjoy View Post
    I've never seen "driving hung over" brought up as a major issue.
    I haven't heard of driving hung over as a bad thing specifically, but as a former night shift worker I'm well aware of the dangers of driving tired. Driving tired is at least as bad as driving drunk. You're not mentally aware enough to drive safely. I lived only a couple miles from the office, but some of my co-workers lived nearly an hour away. I have no idea how they managed the interstate if they were as tired as I was.

    Driving hungover seems like it would be closer to driving while sick. You aren't about to keel over, but you're still going to have much lower situational awareness as part of your brain is focused on how bad you feel. I'm not a drinker though, so I can't really compare directly. I guess it would also depend on how hungover you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith View Post
    Reasonable quality hotels in Montreal, according to 10 seconds on google, are something like $70-150 per night, plus gas money for a ~600 mile round trip. That sounds like quite a lot of money to donate, especially to May who Dora and Tai mostly know as Marten's abrasive upstairs neighbour that they kinda met once at a party.

    I mean, good for them for being such kind people and all, but to change their wedding plans for their friend's neighbour's jerk-ass roomate? Or have I got it wrong and *I'm* the Scrooge in this situation?
    I don't think it would surprise you to hear that it's rather obvious you are looking for ways to be disappointed in QC, but you're also not wrong -- most of the people shown don't have a whole lot of reason to help May out.

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    I bet you already thought more about this than Jeph. Do the brides even organise the bachelorette party? Around here this is usually done secretly by the Best Man/Woman and mostly paid for by the guests.
    This too. If he thought it through at all, I bet Jeph mentally had something like $200 bucks mentally penciled in for Dora/Tai's contribution here, instead of what a 1+ night stay 300 miles away really would be (and no way did he map out the distance and figure gas prices).

    Quote Originally Posted by Max_Killjoy View Post
    I've never seen "driving hung over" brought up as a major issue.
    Not specifically, but it tracks as a vaguely realistic thing you might say to someone else to reassure them that you agree with their change of plans.
    Replace this specific scenario with...
    D: "Let's book an extra day at the Montreal hotel after the bachelorette party, I really want to check out the Montreal Museum of _____*"
    T: "Oh. Uh, sure, that works. Then we won't have to drive home hung over."
    ... and it doesn't feel jarring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie the Duck View Post
    I don't think it would surprise you to hear that it's rather obvious you are looking for ways to be disappointed in QC, but you're also not wrong -- most of the people shown don't have a whole lot of reason to help May out.
    Honestly? I'm really not looking to be disappointed, that takes a special kind of train-wreck occurring. I was hoping for just gentle, slightly-critical but otherwise affectionate snark, so I'll see if I can temper that a bit better in future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie the Duck View Post
    *Fly Fishing. I bet it's the Montreal Museum of Fly Fishing
    What surprises me the most is that there is an International Museum of Fly Fishing in Europe, too.
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    "Dora and Tai are impulsively generous" doesn't really strike me as in any way inconsistent with the comic to date.

    "I wouldn't donate that much to a friend of a friend" is a perfectly reasonable statement that in no way negatively reflects on: they would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kish View Post
    "Dora and Tai are impulsively generous" doesn't really strike me as in any way inconsistent with the comic to date.
    Especially if the context was, "Y'know, we were about to spend a lot of money in order to make our party LESS fun for everyone involved. Let's not do that, and give it to May instead."

    I mean, they could have also said, "Let's keep it for ourselves", but it's always easier to be generous in the wake of a windfall. Even if it's just a windfall you got via ditching a poorly-thought-out plan.

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    I can only think of Brennan Lee Mulligan's joke take on GoFundMe:

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    I've missed Marigold. I love how she has grown from an isolated nerd into... well, a slightly less isolated nerd who is otherwise comfortable with being so, and she has some of the best one-liners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kish View Post
    "Dora and Tai are impulsively generous" doesn't really strike me as in any way inconsistent with the comic to date.

    "I wouldn't donate that much to a friend of a friend" is a perfectly reasonable statement that in no way negatively reflects on: they would.
    The strange thing for me isn't that they would cancel expensive wedding plans to help an acquaintance. Its that they had expensive wedding plans in the first place. How many of their friends had enough disposable income and time to go to Montreal for a wedding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungrycrow View Post
    The strange thing for me isn't that they would cancel expensive wedding plans to help an acquaintance. Its that they had expensive wedding plans in the first place. How many of their friends had enough disposable income and time to go to Montreal for a wedding?
    It may be they had not reached the "can we actually do this?" stage of planning yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    It may be they had not reached the "can we actually do this?" stage of planning yet.
    Could also be the intersection between "joke" and "serious" that Jeph sometimes struggles with.

    Besides, if they go to Montreal, they could stumble into their alternate selves and then who knows what would happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hungrycrow View Post
    The strange thing for me isn't that they would cancel expensive wedding plans to help an acquaintance. Its that they had expensive wedding plans in the first place. How many of their friends had enough disposable income and time to go to Montreal for a wedding?
    If they would potentially be driving home hung over from the bachelorette party, in all likelihood the wedding wouldn't be in Montreal. Sounds like they were having a 'destination bachelorette party,' which still runs into friends who couldn't attend. 'Bachelorette party some of your friends can't attend' is less ridiculous than 'wedding some of your friends can't attend,' but still perhaps something for which their friends wouldn't have wanted to budget.

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    I don't know why, but I'm having... high hopes for this arc?

    Not too low hopes, at least
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    With regards to the choice of Montreal, there's a vague but real strain of thought out there among the US hipster set to the effect that 'what happens in Canada, stays in Canada,' and Montreal is the closest Canadian city of any consequence to Northampton. It makes sense that if Dora and Tai were planning a night of going hog wild they might gravitate to the idea of doing so in Canada as a cheaper alternative to Vegas.
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    There is also the possibility of a party bus being involved if the planning went further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldan View Post
    This is me hearing that apparently, Americans still pay bills and their rent by check. I've only seen a check once in my life, as a little kid in the eighties. They are kind of exciting.
    There are still some time/places where checks may be preferable. Paying my taxes for instance. Because my wife has an unusual W2, we can't file online. So I mail in the form with the check (which was $8 last year).

    At least in Texas, vehicle registration. While they accept credit cards and it can be done online, they charge a fee (2.5 or 3%) for using a credit card. So I save a few bucks using a check.

    I'll agree it is rare. I write maybe four checks a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyckspoon View Post
    Yeah, he's basically just Brown Haired Martin now. Jeph seriously needs to revisit his character designs, he's getting really close to only actually drawing like 4 people with different outfits (Next up, Marigold and Faye will slowly morph into a single 'busty larger girl' design.)
    Jeb himself made the same comment about him looking like Martin. And yeah, I agree. The art has actually declined in my opinion.

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    Don't forget when we met Hanners the first time she was actually working FOR her mom, double and tripple checking accounting reports to find who is embezzling the money. So she knows how to follow money trails even through shell corporation, and I guess you do pick up a thing or two on how to set them up as well, when you do that.
    In fairness, when we first met her she was kind of stalking Martin and was perfectly comfortable being next to him while he peed in a sink. While she had OCD issues, they were apparently not as severe as they became a bit later.

    Quote Originally Posted by hungrycrow View Post
    The strange thing for me isn't that they would cancel expensive wedding plans to help an acquaintance. Its that they had expensive wedding plans in the first place. How many of their friends had enough disposable income and time to go to Montreal for a wedding?
    Actually, all we know is they are moving a bachelorette party. Depending on what they were doing and who they might know in the area, that might not be all that expensive. Maybe saving room and gas. This could easily only be $200.
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    No, she probably doesn't deserve the money. But that had nothing to do with her needing the money for a minimum acceptable quality of life. If we only help those who deserve help we're going top leave out a pretty massive underclass of people who made bad decisions in a difficult moment in their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felius View Post
    No, she probably doesn't deserve the money. But that had nothing to do when her needing the money for a minimum acceptable quality of life. If we only help those who deserve help we're going top leave out a pretty massive underclass of people who made bad decisions in a difficult moment in their lives.
    Or you can do what some places are doing and just don't help anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felius View Post
    No, she probably doesn't deserve the money. But that had nothing to do when her needing the money for a minimum acceptable quality of life. If we only help those who deserve help we're going top leave out a pretty massive underclass of people who made bad decisions in a difficult moment in their lives.
    That depends on your definition of "deserve", I suppose. But saying anything more on this topic would probably violate the forum rules, so I'll refrain.
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    Why do people in movies only notice that they're out of toilet paper when they've litterally used the last bit of it? And not at the "oh this roll I just started was the last, I need to buy more" or "Only one left after this, probably put it on the shopping list already" ?

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    People can be really forgetful. Also "out of toilet paper" could be in reference to their extra stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morquard View Post
    Why do people in movies only notice that they're out of toilet paper when they've litterally used the last bit of it? And not at the "oh this roll I just started was the last, I need to buy more" or "Only one left after this, probably put it on the shopping list already" ?
    It can happen, especially if you thought there was some there but someone else came in and used it. Public bathrooms can be worse. My work office has this HUGE dispensing thing that holds three rolls, but is opaque so you can't see how much is in it. It can happen (speaking from experience) that there's just a little bit hanging down and all three rolls are empty.

    It can also not be noticed if you're in such a hurry because you HAVE to get on that seat right now. Colonoscopy prep is a good example. You might as well camp out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomandtish View Post
    In fairness, when we first met her she was kind of stalking Martin and was perfectly comfortable being next to him while he peed in a sink. While she had OCD issues, they were apparently not as severe as they became a bit later.
    The OCD came in one of her first comics. She commented on her hair counting in one of her first pages, and 520 explicitly says it was severe. The "comfortable being next to him while he peed in a sink" bit was retconned later as being due to some really powerful anti-anxiety medication, but her OCD was always pretty serious, and that was one of the main things focused on during her introduction.

    And Hannelore wasn't explicitly working for her mom. Her job was to count things. So she talks about counting sand particles for some scientists. She did work a job for her mom, but that's literally the only time we hear her actually doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildstag View Post
    The OCD came in one of her first comics. She commented on her hair counting in one of her first pages, and 520 explicitly says it was severe. The "comfortable being next to him while he peed in a sink" bit was retconned later as being due to some really powerful anti-anxiety medication, but her OCD was always pretty serious, and that was one of the main things focused on during her introduction.

    And Hannelore wasn't explicitly working for her mom. Her job was to count things. So she talks about counting sand particles for some scientists. She did work a job for her mom, but that's literally the only time we hear her actually doing that.
    IIRC she was also smoking and kinda grungy-looking.

    Again, because of the powerful anti-anxiety meds messing with her head.
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    So speculation on May's future body:

    a) It's going to be a blue skinned one, so we recognize her (like Momo kept the pink hair)
    b) Momo-skinned body but with blue hair
    c) Neither of those (other skin/hair combo)
    d) FIGHTER JET!!!
    e) Fighter Jet but on a merry-go-around
    f) GoFundMe equivalent goes bankrupt before the deadline, because of the badly coded website and all the money is gone
    g) Something something legal-stuff, and the government seizes the money to pay for outstanding debts on May's part, so Squidbot has to safe they day somehow

    What do you think?

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    Joke answer: She gets an exact copy of Momo's new body, confusing everyone and making the 'May hooked up with Momo's crush' plot line even more devastating for Momo.

    Real guess: something like she currently has, but with whatever upgrade Jeph decides he should have had in the first place, plus it has some kind of flight capability.

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    I like the small touch that Yay has her Connect Four chips stacked while Mellon has them all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhantomFox View Post
    I like the small touch that Yay has her Connect Four chips stacked while Mellon has them all over.
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    So it's Melon's move right now (there are 8 blue pieces in the grid but 9 red). If she goes for the leftmost column, Yay would be forced to put their piece there as well, and then Melon can put her piece on top of it to block Yay from using the third column to set up her own diagonal.

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