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2020-04-29, 05:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
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2020-04-29, 10:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
I'm not a fan of technicalities but in this case I think they're warranted.
Ysmir wasn't a normal mortal. He was a lich-esque incorporeal sorcerer king who could resurrect himself. The Greybeards probably figured there'd no harm in trying on him since he's not really endangering himself if he fails the test.
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2020-04-29, 12:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
I seem to recall that the Greybeards explicitly don’t Shout at you, the actual Dragonborn, until well after they’ve tested you in several different ways (taught you Shouts, made you go get the Horn) and you pass.
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2020-04-29, 05:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
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2020-04-30, 03:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
"Getting the horn" isn't some kind of litmus test for dragonborn-ness, though. Let's not forget, it wasn't actually the DB who retrieved it from the tomb - it was someone else, who seems to have been able to bypass the spiders and draugr and the stupid impassable-without-whirlwind-sprint gates without anyone even noticing she'd been away from home.
"None of us likes to be hated, none of us likes to be shunned. A natural result of these conditions is, that we consciously or unconsciously pay more attention to tuning our opinions to our neighbor’s pitch and preserving his approval than we do to examining the opinions searchingly and seeing to it that they are right and sound." - Mark Twain
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2020-04-30, 06:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2020-05-03, 07:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
Been practically speed-running Arena, following maps as I run through it. I'm in the Imperial City, staring at the Imperial Palace. I have a 100 Luck, a 100 Agility (mostly from magic items), and gonna go beat up Jagar Tharn sometime tonight or tomorrow. Then go on to Daggerfall.
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2020-05-07, 06:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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I run a Let's Play channel! Check it out!
Currently, we're playing through New Vegas as Gabriel de la Cruz, merchant and mercenary extraordinaire!
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2020-05-07, 07:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
Finished Arena. Cana, The Eternal Champion, has moved on to Daggerfall, with a class of Eternal Champ. She's wandering around the eponymous county, having been contacted by Lady Brisenna. Trying to build up rep with the Mage's Guild. A lucky early find was an elven warhammer that provides a 30 point boost to intelligence.
The Cranky Gamer
*It isn't realism, it's verisimilitude; the appearance of truth within the framework of the game.
*Picard management tip: Debate honestly. The goal is to arrive at the truth, not at your preconception.
*Mutant Dawn for Savage Worlds!
*The One Deck Engine: Gaming on a budget
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2020-05-08, 04:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
Are you playing Daggerfall XL?
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2020-05-08, 09:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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The Cranky Gamer
*It isn't realism, it's verisimilitude; the appearance of truth within the framework of the game.
*Picard management tip: Debate honestly. The goal is to arrive at the truth, not at your preconception.
*Mutant Dawn for Savage Worlds!
*The One Deck Engine: Gaming on a budget
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There are almost 400,000 threads on this site. If you need me to address a thread as a moderator, include a link.
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2020-05-08, 11:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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I meant Daggerfall Unity, but still. :)
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2020-05-08, 12:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
I should try that at some point. The last time I tried to play Daggerfall I ran into a problem whereby DOSBox was skipping the mouse cursor 2 pixels along the X axis for every movement, which made half the dots on the map unclickable because the cursor kept jumping over them!
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2020-05-08, 03:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
Recently started a new game in Skyrim (Switch version).
I almost forgot how gloriously buggy that game is.
Two words. Flying mammoths.
Even worse are enemies who just spontaneously decide "I'm gonna stand here and let that cat murderize me to death".
Or just walk away when they're close to death.
I mean, you chase me across the map, running after me the whole time. And then, when I'm a hair away from frying you you decide to turn around and walk away at a leisurely pace?
Although I'm not sure the latter is a bug.
Trying to flee is reasonable after all.
That pace though..."If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
Ronkong Coma "the way of the bookhunter" III Catacombium
(Walter Moers "Die Stadt der träumenden Bücher")
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2020-05-08, 03:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
I haven't played the Switch version, but in my experience the mammoths usually fall and die. Which is totally realistic, it's exactly what you'd expect to happen to a mammoth that - for some reason - suddenly materialised two hundred metres up in the air.
I think the most spectacular bug I ever saw of that kind was when a dragon burst from the ground right in front of me - on a road - with a giant standing on its shoulders and trying to ride it, like a circus performer on a horse. If you want to see that, try running as fast as you can across huge expanses of map without stopping for anything.Last edited by veti; 2020-05-08 at 03:19 PM.
"None of us likes to be hated, none of us likes to be shunned. A natural result of these conditions is, that we consciously or unconsciously pay more attention to tuning our opinions to our neighbor’s pitch and preserving his approval than we do to examining the opinions searchingly and seeing to it that they are right and sound." - Mark Twain
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2020-05-09, 01:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
"If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
Ronkong Coma "the way of the bookhunter" III Catacombium
(Walter Moers "Die Stadt der träumenden Bücher")
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2020-05-09, 08:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
Depends entirely on how hard they hit.
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2020-05-09, 08:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
"If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
Ronkong Coma "the way of the bookhunter" III Catacombium
(Walter Moers "Die Stadt der träumenden Bücher")
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2020-05-09, 12:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
Did a bowl of petunias appear at the same time?
The Cranky Gamer
*It isn't realism, it's verisimilitude; the appearance of truth within the framework of the game.
*Picard management tip: Debate honestly. The goal is to arrive at the truth, not at your preconception.
*Mutant Dawn for Savage Worlds!
*The One Deck Engine: Gaming on a budget
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2020-05-09, 01:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
Last edited by Kantaki; 2020-05-09 at 01:47 PM.
"If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
Ronkong Coma "the way of the bookhunter" III Catacombium
(Walter Moers "Die Stadt der träumenden Bücher")
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2020-05-12, 10:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
I noticed that there's an old rumor floating around that the Mages quest line in Skyrim had been projected to be much longer and was cut even before coding started. So you would have traveled back in time, activated the eye of Magnus, caused the collapse of Winterhold, looked for the help of the Order of PSJJJJ to make things right, and then you would have returned to the present and found Winterhold reborn, as if it had never sunk into the sea.
It's a cool story, and it would have had a massive payoff, which is something I love (a whole new city!). However, I can see a lot of problems with it: travelling to the past would have meant having to create a whole different Skyrim or some way to lock the player in a fairly small area, a limitation which would have needed a decent explanation. Plus, if it gets larger and you only have one chance to visit it, then it's the sort of big undertaking you do for the main quest (Sovngarde and Camoran's Paradise).
So who knows if that ever was the project, or just the idea of some imaginative fan.Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2020-05-12, 10:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
That does actually happen in the game as shipped--there's a wooden mask in Bromjunaar Sanctuary that takes you back in time to before the place was destroyed, but you don't interact with anyone in the "past" version of the place and you're locked into the room in which you use the mask.
To be honest, the questline you describe would still work if you *don't* manage to fix things in the past and Winterhold remains broken in the present, it would just be a cool nod to what caused the destruction in the first place. The problem of forcing you to remain within a small area remains, of course.
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2020-05-12, 11:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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That's easy, dumping you into a Saarthal with a collapsed entrance and the only way out is touching the orb. Which triggers the collapse.
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2020-05-12, 02:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
Sounds like a cool idea, and reasonably plausible as fan theories go. I wouldn't be surprised if there were lots of stuff like that planned out in the early stages, only to be cut before actual development began. It would make sense to cut things that would require lots of extra coding and building for a limited return of play time.
Unfortunately, there would be no real trace of it in the released game, so nothing for modders to discover and refurbish. Adding (essentially) a whole new city would also be a big undertaking for modders, requiring either a big team or a significant budget. Think of all the new NPCs and voice lines. And the changes in the rest of Skyrim."None of us likes to be hated, none of us likes to be shunned. A natural result of these conditions is, that we consciously or unconsciously pay more attention to tuning our opinions to our neighbor’s pitch and preserving his approval than we do to examining the opinions searchingly and seeing to it that they are right and sound." - Mark Twain
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2020-05-12, 02:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-05-12, 02:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-05-12, 05:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
Or dumping you in a living Saarthal, and keeping you in that city. You could even reuse the maps. If you want to have it preserve Winterhold, you could interact with someone doing an experiment long ago, and make a choice that MIGHT preserve Winterhold more thoroughly in the future.
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The Cranky Gamer
*It isn't realism, it's verisimilitude; the appearance of truth within the framework of the game.
*Picard management tip: Debate honestly. The goal is to arrive at the truth, not at your preconception.
*Mutant Dawn for Savage Worlds!
*The One Deck Engine: Gaming on a budget
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2020-05-12, 11:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Elder Scrolls XVI: Sworn to Carry Your Burdens
Let's be honest they said that about the next Fallout game, were wrong, and what we got was Fallout 76. DO NOT RUSH THEM.
Also, I LIKE destroyed Winterhold.I am trying out LPing. Check out my channel here: Triaxx2
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2020-05-12, 11:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-05-13, 02:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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