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    Welcome Back, Emanick!
    Thank you, GuySmiley!

    Updated through 1261
    Demon Roaches, Greyview, Monster in the Darkness, Oona, Redcloak, Xykon

    Is anyone able to make a smilie for Sunny, now that she has appeared often enough to merit one?

    Notable rank changes for #1261:
    The Monster in the Darkness and Tarquin are now tied for 15th place in terms of number of total story pages, having each appeared on 127 pages. In terms of online strips, the MitD also rises to a tie for 15th, but in this case with Sabine, not Tarquin. In terms of online strips, Hinjo now falls from being tied for 16th to 17th.
    In terms of online strips, the Demon Roaches rise to #21, passing O-Chul, whom they were previously (briefly) tied with. O-Chul falls to being #22, though he is still far ahead of them in number of story pages (#12 to their #22, to be specific).
    With this, her 23rd page appearance, Oona rises from being tied for #83 with Niu, CotS Usher with Sandy Hair, Roy's Archon, The Snarl and Windstriker to being tied for #75 with Cedrik, Haruna Sato, High Priestess of Odin, Lee, Lirian, Nero, Phil Rodriguez and Wrecan. Niu, CotS Usher with Sandy Hair, Roy's Archon, The Snarl and Windstriker fall to being in a five-way tie for #84. In terms of online strips, Oona is now tied for #62 with Cedrik, CotS Usher with Sandy Hair, Kraagor, Lee, Nero, Niu and Thirden, each of whom have appeared in 19 online strips, causing Bozzok, Roy's Archon, Sunny and Vampirized CotS Usher with Sandy Hair, each of whom have appeared in 18 online strips, to fall to being tied for #70.
    With this, his 18th page appearance, Greyview rises from being tied for #103 with Dorukan, Geoff, Shirra Copperbottom, Veldrina and Yukyuk to being tied for #101 with Boot-Wight and Hoskin. Dorukan, Geoff, Shirra Copperbottom, Veldrina and Yukyuk fall to being in a five-way tie for #104. In terms of online strips, Greyview is now tied for #80 with Boot-Wight, Geoff, Hoskin, Julio Scoundrél and Soul-Muncher, each of whom have appeared in 16 online strips, causing Odin, Phil Rodriguez, Windstriker and Wrecan to fall to being tied for #86.
    Number of Character Appearances VII - To Absent Friends

    Currently playing a level 20 aasimar necromancer named Zebulun Salathiel and a level 9 goliath diviner named Lo-Kag.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Player: Bob twists the vault door super hard, that should open it.
    DM: Why would you think that?
    Player: Well, Bob thinks it. And since Bob has high Int and Wis, and a lot of points in Dungeoneering, he would probably know a thing or two about how to open vault doors.
    Ah yes, the Dungeon-Kruger effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emanick View Post
    Is anyone able to make a smilie for Sunny, now that she has appeared often enough to merit one?
    Maybe one of these?

    https://dantas.com/giantitp/sunny_1243_hd.png



    https://dantas.com/giantitp/sunny_1243_full.png




    https://dantas.com/giantitp/sunny_1257_tb.png



    https://dantas.com/giantitp/sunny_1257_full.png
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    For 1261 Certain Doom:

    Character
    Count
    Last Appearance
    Words
    Total Words
    Rank
    Demon Roach
    +1
    1260, 20 Jun, 2022
    +12
    1,724
    43
    Greyview
    +1
    1222, 19 Dec, 2020
    +10
    200
    178 (187)
    Kraagor's Tomb Monster
    +1
    1040, 12 Sep, 2018
    +0
    0
    1106
    Monster in the Darkness
    +1
    1260, 20 Jun, 2022
    +12
    5,279
    18
    Oona
    +1
    1222, 19 Dec, 2020
    +82
    974
    60 (67)
    Redcloak
    +1
    1222, 19 Dec, 2020
    +170
    19,110
    7
    Xykon
    +1
    1260, 20 Jun, 2022
    +9
    15,428
    8

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    I have been away, so apologies on the delay.

    Things of note:

    Oona jumps up 7 slots, putting her between Ancient Black Dragon (981) and Lee (967).

    Greyview moves up 11 slots, below Azure City Swordsmith and Gnome Armorer (201), and ahead of Theology Teacher and Unholy Master (199).

    I also added Kraagor's Tomb Monster as a tracked character group, including their first appearance in 1040. I'm not differentiating them yet. If they start doing different things and not just being dead, this can change.

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    For 1262 Two Villages:

    Character
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    Total Words
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    Greyview
    +1
    1261, 5 Jul, 2022
    +13
    213
    169 (178)
    Kraagor's Tomb Monster
    +1
    1261, 5 Jul, 2022
    +0
    0
    1106
    Oona
    +1
    1261, 5 Jul, 2022
    +295
    1,269
    52 (60)
    Redcloak
    +1
    1261, 5 Jul, 2022
    +128
    19,238
    7

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    Things of note:

    Oona jumps up 8 slots, putting her between Exarch of Hel (1,281) and Wrecan (1,258). She also broke 1,000 words, only one of 59 characters to have done so.

    Greyview moves up 9 slots, tied with Eye of Fear and Flame, below Judy Morningstar (214), and ahead of Thrym (212).

    One more thing I failed to note two strips back was the Book 7 moved up to 8th place of total words with 24,906. It’s now ahead of Start of Darkness (24,004) and breathing down the neck of Dungeon Crawlin’ Fools (25,263).
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    Greyview, Oona, Redcloak

    Congratulations to Oona, who has just risen to the status of Supporting Character!

    With this, her 24th page appearance, Oona rises from being tied for #75 with Cedrik, Haruna Sato, High Priestess of Odin, Lee, Lirian, Nero, Phil Rodriguez and Wrecan to being tied for #72 with Kraagor, Odin and Vampire Dwarf with Blue Curly Hair. Cedrik, Haruna Sato, High Priestess of Odin, Lee, Lirian, Nero, Phil Rodriguez and Wrecan fall to being in an eight-way tie for #76. In terms on online strip appearances, Oona becomes the 62nd person to become a Supporting Character, and is now in a six-way tie for #57 with Empress of Blood, Hel, Loki, Mateo and Vampire Dwarf with Blue Curly Hair, each of whom have also appeared in 20 online strips, causing Cedrik, CotS Usher with Sandy Hair, Kraagor, Lee, Nero, Niu and Thirden, each of whom has appeared in 19 online strips, to fall to being in a seven-way tie for #63.
    With this, his 19th page appearance, Greyview rises from being tied for #101 with Boot-Wight and Hoskin to being tied for #99 with Jenny and Sara Greenhilt. Boot-Wight and Hoskin fall to being in a tie for #102 with each other alone. In terms of online strip appearances, Greyview is now tied for #74 with Ganonron, High Priestess of Odin, Jephton the Unholy, Jones, Logann Brightstone and Yikyik, each of whom have appeared in 17 online strips, causing Boot-Wight, Geoff, Hoskin, Julio Scoundrél and Soul-Muncher to fall to being in a five-way tie for #81.

    It looks as though none of the dead monsters in this strip appeared in the last one, so for now, none of them will be counted.

    As ever, the Index is eternally in your debt! Thank you!
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    Currently playing a level 20 aasimar necromancer named Zebulun Salathiel and a level 9 goliath diviner named Lo-Kag.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Player: Bob twists the vault door super hard, that should open it.
    DM: Why would you think that?
    Player: Well, Bob thinks it. And since Bob has high Int and Wis, and a lot of points in Dungeoneering, he would probably know a thing or two about how to open vault doors.
    Ah yes, the Dungeon-Kruger effect.

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    For 1263 Assorted Situational Uses:

    Character
    Count
    Last Appearance
    Words
    Total Words
    Rank
    Demon Roach
    +1
    1261, 5 Jul, 2022
    +23
    1,747
    43
    Greyview
    +1
    1262, 18 Jul, 2020
    +0
    213
    169
    Hobgoblin Jeweler
    +1
    831, 25 Jan, 2012
    +0
    0
    1106
    Monster in the Darkness
    +1
    1261, 5 Jul, 2022
    +43
    5,322
    18
    Oona
    +1
    1262, 18 Jul, 2020
    +0
    1,269
    52
    Redcloak
    +1
    1262, 18 Jul, 2020
    +205
    19,443
    7
    Xykon
    +1
    1261, 5 Jul, 2022
    +90
    15,518
    8

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    Not much movement in the ranking, but we see the Hobgoblin Jeweler for the first time in over ten years, plus he's actually alive in this appearance. He's in a 917-way tie for 1106th place in words, for what that's worth.

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    For #1264, Also an Uncanny Resemblance: we have MitD, Oona, Xykon, Redcloak, Greyview, Demon Roaches (2), Background Monodrones (2), “Monotone Monodrone” (my nickname), unnamed mid-level Hierarch modron


    Opinions on the identity of the big guy? I personally think it’s either Quinton or Hexton, based on the wings and the number of arms.
    Last edited by ByzantiumBhuka; 2022-08-11 at 11:07 AM.

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    For 1264 Also an Uncanny Resemblance:

    Character
    Count
    Last Appearance
    Words
    Total Words
    Rank
    Demon Roach
    +1
    1263, 27 Jul, 2022
    +33
    1,780
    43
    Greyview
    +1
    1263, 27 Jul, 2022
    +0
    213
    169
    Monodrone
    +1
    First appearance
    +24
    24
    556
    Monster in the Darkness
    +1
    1263, 27 Jul, 2022
    +41
    5,363
    18
    Oona
    +1
    1263, 27 Jul, 2022
    +19
    1,288
    51 (52)
    Quinton
    +1
    First appearance
    +33
    33
    488
    Redcloak
    +1
    1263, 27 Jul, 2022
    +145
    19,588
    7
    Xykon
    +1
    1263, 27 Jul, 2022
    +19
    15,537
    8

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    Oona moves up one space to 51st, and we have two new characters. I'm counting all the Monodrones as one entity until they distiguish themselves beyond one signing.
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    For #1265, Non-Killer App: we have MitD (11 words), Oona (9 words), Xykon (17 words), Redcloak (214 words), Greyview (10 words), Demon Roaches (6 words, or 7 if you count % as separate, which it isn’t in regular speedrunning lingo), Quinton (82 words), Agree/Crossbow/Red Monodrone (1 word), Decline/Blue Monodrone (0 words, 2nd appearance, Wizard Modron/Tridrone? (0 words), Armored Modron/Quadrone? (0 words)

    Not quite sure what to call the new folks. They’re not monodrones, but they don’t look quite like other modrons either; contrast the winged quadrones in comics #68 and #646 and the normally tetrahedral shape of tridrones with the conic wizard and the grounded barbarian. I’m chalking up those differences to artistic license, though.
    Last edited by ByzantiumBhuka; 2022-08-20 at 01:27 AM.

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    For 1265 Non-Killer App:
    1 Page, 11 Panels, 352 Words

    Character
    Count
    Last Appearance
    Words
    Total Words
    Rank
    Demon Roach
    +1
    1264, 11 Aug, 2022
    +7
    1,787
    43
    Greyview
    +1
    1264, 11 Aug, 2022
    +10
    223
    162 (169)
    Monodrone
    +1
    1264, 11 Aug, 2022
    +1
    25
    544 (556)
    Monster in the Darkness
    +1
    1264, 11 Aug, 2022
    +11
    5,374
    18
    Oona
    +1
    1264, 11 Aug, 2022
    +9
    1,297
    51
    Quadrone
    +1
    First Appearance
    +0
    0
    1050
    Quinton
    +1
    1264, 11 Aug, 2022
    +82
    115
    247 (488)
    Redcloak
    +1
    1264, 11 Aug, 2022
    +214
    19,802
    7
    Tridrone
    +1
    First Appearance
    +0
    0
    1050
    Xykon
    +1
    1264, 11 Aug, 2022
    +17
    15,554
    8

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    Greyview jumps up seven spots, behind the Summoned Planetar (225) and ahead of Tinna (222).
    One word moves the Monodrone collective up 12 ranks.
    Oona is one word behind Roy's Archon.
    Quinton leaps up 241 spaces, placing it between Sandsedge Armorer (116) and the Watchtower Guards (114)
    We have two new characters that I'm identifying as a Tridrone and a Quadrone. Neither has spoken yet, so they are both in a 919-way tie for 1108th place.
    Note that the word total at the top included the sound effect. Just in case someone was checking my math.

    I agree with all of the counts given by ByzantiumBhuka, although I am counting "%" as a separate word. Personal choice, I guess.
    Last edited by Yxylu; 2022-08-22 at 12:05 AM.

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    Updated through 1263
    Demon Roaches, Elder Hobgoblin, Greyview, Monster in the Darkness, Oona, Redcloak (as stone carving), Xykon (as stone carving)

    Updated through 1264
    'Agree' Monodrone, Demon Roaches, 'Disagree' Monodrone, Greyview, Monster in the Darkness, Oona, Quinton, Redcloak, Xykon

    Updated through 1265
    'Agree' Monodrone, Demon Roaches, 'Disagree' Monodrone, Greyview, Monster in the Darkness, Oona, Quinton, Redcloak, Xykon

    Congratulations to Greyview on officially becoming a Supporting Character! And congratulations to the dearly departed Elder Hobgoblin on his (very) posthumous ascendance to the status of Minor Character. I'm sure his family would be proud.

    Xykon has now appeared in as many online strips as Nale, tying him for 10th place in that category. The Monster in the Darkness has now appeared in more online strips than Sabine, bringing him to 15th place and dropping her to 16th.

    Other notable changes:
    The Monster in the Darkness is now in 15th place outright in terms of number of total story pages, having appeared on 130 pages. Tarquin falls to 16th place, having only appeared on 127 pages.
    The Demon Roaches are now in 21st place in total number of page appearances, at 109 pages, passing Sabine, who has only appeared on 107 pages. Sabine falls to 22nd place.
    With these, her 25th, 26th and 27th page appearances, Oona rises from being tied for #72 with Kraagor, Odin and Vampire Dwarf with Blue Curly Hair to being tied for #61 with Bozzok, Empress of Blood, Hel, Jirix, Laurin Shattersmith and Loki. Jones, Julia Greenhilt and Pangtok fall to being in a tie for #67 to being in a tie for #68. Mateo and Thirden fall from being in a tie for #70 to being in a tie for #71. Kraagor, Odin and Vampire Dwarf with Blue Curly Hair fall from being in a four-way tie for #72 with Oona to being in a three-way tie with one another.
    In terms of online strips, Oona is now tied for #50 with Banjo, CotS Usher with Long Hair and Felix, each of whom have appeared in 23 online strips. This causes Jirix and Julia Greenhilt to fall into being in a tie for #54, at 22 online strips, Laurin Shattersmith and Therkla to fall into being in a tie for #56, at 21 online strips, and Empress of Blood, Hel, Loki, Mateo and Vampire Dwarf with Blue Curly Hair to fall into being in a tie for #58 with Greyview, at 20 online strips.
    With this, his 20th, 21st and 22nd page appearances, Greyview rises from being tied for #99 with Jenny and Sara Greenhilt to being tied for #84 with Niu, CotS Usher with Sandy Hair, Roy's Archon, The Snarl and Windstriker. Ancient Black Dragon, Girard Draketooth and Sunny fall to being tied for #89 to being tied for #90. Daimyo Kubota, Ganonron, Hank, Jephton the Unholy, Logann Brightstone, Soul-Muncher and Vampirized CotS Usher with Sandy Hair fall from being tied for #92 to being tied for #93. Jenny and Sara Greenhilt fall from being tied for #99 to being tied for #100.
    In terms of online strips, as noted above, Greyview is now tied for #58 with Empress of Blood, Hel, Loki, Mateo and Vampire Dwarf with Blue Curly Hair, each of whom have appeared in 20 online strips. This causes Cedrik, CotS Usher with Sandy Hair, Kraagor, Lee, Nero, Niu and Thirden to fall to being tied for #63 to being tied for #64. Bozzok, Roy's Archon, Sunny and Vampirized CotS Usher with Sandy Hair fall from a tie for #70 to a tie for #71. Ganonron, High Priestess of Odin, Jephton the Unholy, Jones, Logann Brightstone and Yikyik fall from being in a seven-way tie for #74 with Greyview to being in a six-way tie for #75 with one another alone.

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    Once again, my apologies for falling behind! Hopefully I'll be able to keep up with this thread more regularly going forward as I continue to settle into my newish job (which happens to be with the IRS, so you can imagine why much of the energy I would normally be devoting to this thread might get channeled elsewhere instead).

    Do the names "'Agree' Monodrone" and "'Disagree' Monodrone" make sense for the two monodrones we see in #1264 and #1265? They seem like the most obvious distinguishing names to me, but they're obviously not proper "names."
    Number of Character Appearances VII - To Absent Friends

    Currently playing a level 20 aasimar necromancer named Zebulun Salathiel and a level 9 goliath diviner named Lo-Kag.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Player: Bob twists the vault door super hard, that should open it.
    DM: Why would you think that?
    Player: Well, Bob thinks it. And since Bob has high Int and Wis, and a lot of points in Dungeoneering, he would probably know a thing or two about how to open vault doors.
    Ah yes, the Dungeon-Kruger effect.

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    I like the Agree/Disagree names, but I counted differently on the monodrones. #1264 has a green, blue, and purple, while #1265 has red and blue. So I think that for now, only the Disagree Monodrone would be worthy of listing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ByzantiumBhuka View Post
    I like the Agree/Disagree names, but I counted differently on the monodrones. #1264 has a green, blue, and purple, while #1265 has red and blue. So I think that for now, only the Disagree Monodrone would be worthy of listing?
    I am pretty sure that the one on the far left in the bottom-left panel of #1264 only appears purple because of the weird lighting in the portal, and I assume it's the same one that appears red in #1265. That said, what does everyone else think?
    Number of Character Appearances VII - To Absent Friends

    Currently playing a level 20 aasimar necromancer named Zebulun Salathiel and a level 9 goliath diviner named Lo-Kag.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Player: Bob twists the vault door super hard, that should open it.
    DM: Why would you think that?
    Player: Well, Bob thinks it. And since Bob has high Int and Wis, and a lot of points in Dungeoneering, he would probably know a thing or two about how to open vault doors.
    Ah yes, the Dungeon-Kruger effect.

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    Yxylu, your work is fascinating.

    Do you have a full excel document which you can share for perusal purposes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLD View Post
    Yxylu, your work is fascinating.

    Do you have a full excel document which you can share for perusal purposes?
    I think this will work; let me know if it doesn't, and I'll try something else.

    https://1drv.ms/x/s!AmZYEKk-VqhVhRNY...fDLPn?e=V1X9XP

    If it does, feel free to ignore the last two tabs in the workbook. Those are for me playing around with formulas and stuff, and not intended for public consumption.

    A couple other notes:

    • I don’t intend to update this copy of it, so if you check back in a few months, it will likely still be the same (if it’s even still accessible).
    • I’m always open to suggestions for additional information to add.
    • I am currently in the process of backfilling the appearances of Greenhilt Sword, Xykon’s Crown, Xykon’s Phylactery, and the Mechane. My numbers for those are known inaccuracies at this time.
    • My transcription fields have a big gap starting in War and XPs and continuing until the end of Don’t Split the Party, then another gap in most of Blood Runs in the Family. It’s a tedious process; don’t judge me.
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    Maybe I missed something, but I believe the main list is not updated for the appearances of characters from the GDGU stories That's the Spirit, Scruff&Tumble and Pier Pressure. For example, Kazumi and Daigo have both 3 red appearances while in their story they appear on 16 pages. Characters that are from those stories exclusively, like Melisander or Daesuk, are not mentioned at all.

    Is there any reason for it?
    There must be some sense of order - personal, political or dramatic - and if no one else is going to bring it to this world, I will.

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    For 1266 Even Deal:
    2 Pages, 24 Panels, 633 Words

    Character
    Count
    Last Appearance
    Words
    Total Words
    Rank
    Demon Roach
    +1 +1
    1265, 18 Aug, 2022
    +28
    1,795
    42 (43)
    Monster in the Darkness
    +1
    1265, 18 Aug, 2022
    +4
    5,378
    18
    Quinton
    +1 +1
    1265, 18 Aug, 2022
    +140
    255
    149 (247)
    Redcloak
    +1 +1
    1265, 18 Aug, 2022
    +243
    20,045
    7
    Xykon
    +1 +1
    1265, 18 Aug, 2022
    +218
    15,772
    8

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    Demon Roach has caught up to Gannji in 42nd place.
    Quinton jumps up 98 places, putting itself between Jenny (256) and Zit Boy (252).
    Redcloak is now only one of seven characters with over 20,000 words. He also has 12.99 words per panel (17.58 if you only count the ones where he says anything), and 3.89% of all of the words spoken total.
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    I I got the same count, except that the Demon Roaches have 28 rather than 8 words.

    I’m going to start adhering to this new constraint out of solidarity with Xykon. Even liches need comrades-in-lipograms.

    Oh, and one final thing: in the grand scheme of OOTS, do more sentences end with words with an odd or even number of letters? Based on English statistics, I would think even would be more common, but there’s a whole lot of variability. The first two comics are about equal, but it could vary greatly. This is a job best suited for someone with the entirety of the script in a text file and a command of the superpower that is regular expressions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ByzantiumBhuka View Post
    I I got the same count, except that the Demon Roaches have 28 rather than 8 words.
    What do you mean? It says 28. It always has, and was never a typo I made that I just corrected.

    Oh, and one final thing: in the grand scheme of OOTS, do more sentences end with words with an odd or even number of letters? Based on English statistics, I would think even would be more common, but there’s a whole lot of variability. The first two comics are about equal, but it could vary greatly. This is a job best suited for someone with the entirety of the script in a text file and a command of the superpower that is regular expressions.
    I may be able to run a formula on the transcription I have to-date, but it may take more brute force than I want to spend, so I’ll get back to you. This will not include most of book 3, all of book 4, and most of book 5 regardless.

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    So, I ran the formula with what I had, and it only looked at the last word for each character within a given panel, not by sentence. That is a bit beyond my ability and initiative. What I found is this:

    Even: 13,005 (53.11%)

    Odd: 11,482 (46.89%)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yxylu View Post
    So, I ran the formula with what I had, and it only looked at the last word for each character within a given panel, not by sentence. That is a bit beyond my ability and initiative. What I found is this:

    Even: 13,005 (53.11%)

    Odd: 11,482 (46.89%)
    Interesting! That’s…10 stdevs from the mean, I think? So certainly statistically significant. Sounds like Xykon made life a bit harder for himself. Thanks for computing this thing!
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    Updated through 1266
    Demon-Roaches (+1), Monster in the Darkness, Quinton (+1), Redcloak (+1), Xykon (+1)

    Xykon has finally passed Nale in the number of online strips he has appeared in! That officially makes him and Redcloak the non-Order characters who have appeared in the most strips, trailing only the OOTS themselves, Mr. Scruffy, and Blackwing. Xykon is thus now tenth in Number of Online Strips Appeared In, while Nale is now eleventh.

    Similarly, the Demon-Roaches have now appeared in as many online strips as Thog - 68 - tying them for 20th by that metric. Interestingly, this strip also marks the point where they officially pass Thog in the number of actual story pages they have appeared in. Strip #1,266 brings them from 109 to 111 page appearances, bypassing Thog's 110. This ties them with Celia, who has also appeared on 111 story pages. Thus, the Demon-Roaches go from being #21 by this metric to being tied for #19 with Celia, while Thog falls from #20 to #21.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Havran View Post


    Maybe I missed something, but I believe the main list is not updated for the appearances of characters from the GDGU stories That's the Spirit, Scruff&Tumble and Pier Pressure. For example, Kazumi and Daigo have both 3 red appearances while in their story they appear on 16 pages. Characters that are from those stories exclusively, like Melisander or Daesuk, are not mentioned at all.

    Is there any reason for it?
    ...No. No, this is not deliberate at all. And given that I specifically remember researching GDGU's appearances and making sure they were all integrated properly into the first few posts - this is one of the reasons why this iteration of the thread took so long to get rolling - I am mystified as to why these appearances don't seem to be properly accounted for. Because you're absolutely right; Daigo and Kasumi, at the very least, clearly do not have the right number of red appearances.

    This will take some time to research properly, but I am going to make it a priority this week to figure out exactly what went wrong and how it can be properly corrected. I have a few different documents to compare, so I can't say exactly how long it will take, but hopefully it will be fixed soon. Luckily, I own a copy of the print book, which, if nothing else, will make the process much less painful.
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    Currently playing a level 20 aasimar necromancer named Zebulun Salathiel and a level 9 goliath diviner named Lo-Kag.

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    Player: Bob twists the vault door super hard, that should open it.
    DM: Why would you think that?
    Player: Well, Bob thinks it. And since Bob has high Int and Wis, and a lot of points in Dungeoneering, he would probably know a thing or two about how to open vault doors.
    Ah yes, the Dungeon-Kruger effect.

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    For 1267 Dead Letters:
    1 Page, 10 Panels, 325 Words

    Character
    Count
    Last Appearance
    Words
    Total Words
    Rank
    Blackwing
    +1
    1258, 25 May, 2022
    +0
    4,594
    19
    Demon Roach
    +1
    1266, 29 Aug, 2022
    +22
    1,795
    42
    Greyview
    +1
    1265, 18 Aug, 2022
    +9
    232
    159 (162)
    Monster in the Darkness
    +1
    1266, 29 Aug, 2022
    +76
    5,454
    18
    Oona
    +1
    1265, 18 Aug, 2022
    +23
    1,320
    50 (51)
    Quadrone
    +1
    1265, 18 Aug, 2022
    +0
    0
    1108
    Quinton
    +1
    1266, 29 Aug, 2022
    +28
    283
    139 (149)
    Redcloak
    +1
    1266, 29 Aug, 2022
    +76
    20,121
    7
    Xykon
    +1
    1266, 29 Aug, 2022
    +91
    15,863
    8

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    Oona is now in the top 50, behind Andromeda.
    Quinton is now right on the heels of Female Dwarf Vampire and Team Peregrine Commander (284).

    I was curious, so I looked at all the sentences that anyone besides Xykon said, and it's basically equally split between even and odd letters. The others weren't specifically rubbing it in that they could use even letters.
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    Blackwing, Demon-Roaches, Greyview, Monster in the Darkness, Oona, Quinton, Redcloak, Xykon

    This is the 69th online strip the Demon-Roaches have appeared in, which brings them past Thog and ties than with Miko. The Demon-Roaches and Miko are thus tied for 19th place by this metric, and Thog drops from being in a tie for 20th place to being in 21st place.
    This is the 24th online strip that Oona has appeared in, which brings her past Banjo, CotS Usher with Long Hair, and Felix, and ties her with Ho Thanh and Kwesi. Oona, Ho Thanh and Kwesi are thus tied for 48th place by this metric, and Banjo, CotS Usher with Long Hair, and Felix drop from being in a tie for 50th place with Oona to being in a tie for 51st place with one other alone.
    This is the 21st online strip that Greyview has appeared in, which brings him past the Empress of Blood, Hel, Loki, Mateo and Vampire Dwarf with Blue Curly Hair, and ties him with Laurin Shattersmith and Therkla. Greyview, Laurin Shattersmith and Therkla are thus tied for 56th place by this metric, and the Empress of Blood, Hel, Loki, Mateo and Vampire Dwarf with Blue Curly Hair drop from being in a tie for 58th place with Greyview to being in a tie for 59th place with one another alone.

    In terms of the total number of pages each character has appeared on:
    The Demon-Roaches pass Celia, having now appeared on 112 different pages. This brings them to being in 19th place outright, dropping Celia (111 pages) to 20th place.
    Oona has now appeared on 28 different pages. This brings her to being in a three-way tie for 59th place with Enor and Kwesi. Bozzok, the Empress of Blood, Hel, Jirix, Laurin Shattersmith and Loki (27 pages) drop to being in a joint 62nd place.
    Greyview has now appeared on 23 different pages. This brings him to being in a nine-way tie for 76th place with Cedrik, Haruna Sato, the High Priestess of Odin, Lee, Lirian, Nero, Phil Rodriguez, and Wrecan. Niu, CotS Usher with Sandy Hair, Roy's Archon, The Snarl and Windstriker (22 pages) drop to being in a joint 85th place.

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    Regarding Good Deeds Goes Unpunished, I think I have identified the source of the error: when I first created this thread, I took martianmister's numbers and updated them to reflect all the strips and bonus content that had been released since #1170. Good Deeds Gone Unpunished predates #1170, so I simply assumed that the thread was updated to reflect its content. Apparently that is not the case.

    Luckily, Gift Jeraff (and I) produced pretty good rundowns of the GDGU appearances at the time, so it shouldn't be terribly difficult to backtrack to the most recent strip that predated How the Paladin Got His Scar and check all those characters' appearances from then onwards. Relatively speaking, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
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    Player: Bob twists the vault door super hard, that should open it.
    DM: Why would you think that?
    Player: Well, Bob thinks it. And since Bob has high Int and Wis, and a lot of points in Dungeoneering, he would probably know a thing or two about how to open vault doors.
    Ah yes, the Dungeon-Kruger effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emanick View Post
    Luckily, Gift Jeraff (and I) produced pretty good rundowns of the GDGU appearances at the time, so it shouldn't be terribly difficult to backtrack to the most recent strip that predated How the Paladin Got His Scar and check all those characters' appearances from then onwards. Relatively speaking, of course.
    If you’d like a hand, I can give the numbers that I have for the characters in question. Another set of eyes as an error check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yxylu View Post
    If you’d like a hand, I can give the numbers that I have for the characters in question. Another set of eyes as an error check.
    That would be extremely helpful, thank you! That should massively reduce the chance of any mistakes being made.

    Do you know off the top of your head (or notes) which characters need to be checked, or do you need me to let you know?
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    Currently playing a level 20 aasimar necromancer named Zebulun Salathiel and a level 9 goliath diviner named Lo-Kag.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Player: Bob twists the vault door super hard, that should open it.
    DM: Why would you think that?
    Player: Well, Bob thinks it. And since Bob has high Int and Wis, and a lot of points in Dungeoneering, he would probably know a thing or two about how to open vault doors.
    Ah yes, the Dungeon-Kruger effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emanick View Post
    That would be extremely helpful, thank you! That should massively reduce the chance of any mistakes being made.

    Do you know off the top of your head (or notes) which characters need to be checked, or do you need me to let you know?
    Is it basically anyone who appears in the three other stories plus the bonus page of HtPGHS? If so, I can run with that.

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    For 1268 No Skill Point:
    1 Page, 6 Panels, 225 Words

    Character
    Count
    Last Appearance
    Words
    Total Words
    Rank
    Belkar Bitterleaf
    +1
    1259, 8 Jun, 2022
    +13
    34,735
    4
    Durkon Thundershield
    +1
    1259, 8 Jun, 2022
    +5
    23,119
    6
    Haley Starshine
    +1
    1259, 8 Jun, 2022
    +46
    40,778
    2
    Lien
    +1
    1259, 8 Jun, 2022
    +28
    4,341
    20 (21)
    Minrah Shaleshoe
    +1
    1259, 8 Jun, 2022
    +2
    3,509
    25
    Mr. Scruffy
    +1
    1259, 8 Jun, 2022
    +0
    124
    237
    O-Chul
    +1
    1259, 8 Jun, 2022
    +37
    10,286
    10
    Roy Greenhilt
    +1
    1259, 8 Jun, 2022
    +82
    65,986
    1
    Serini Toormuck
    +1
    1259, 8 Jun, 2022
    +0
    2,715
    29
    Vaarsuvius
    +1
    1259, 8 Jun, 2022
    +12
    28,770
    5

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    Return to the heroes! And, based on my guess, the beginning of Round 5.

    Lien moves up one spot, putting her in the top 20. She displaces Thor (4,331), and is behind Blackwing (4,594)

    No other real movement. Everyone in the top 10 is pretty stable, so we won't see any changes there unless there's a serious focus on one of them (like Utterly Dwarfed pulled Durkon ahead of Redcloak).

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    And now we're going to go back through every scene of Serini's lair, to try to figure out what stools were where.
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    Mimic proposal time!

    Take a look at the stool next to the bed in panel 3 of #1225. Note that it’s at the far left side of the bed. This will change.
    It next appears in panel 1 (as well as the last panel) of #1250. The stool has now shifted slightly to the right by now, and right as Serini says “Everybody stay back or else!!” An entirely reasonable reaction for a mimic trying to follow its master’s commands.
    On the next comic, the stool should be visible, at least slightly— but it isn’t. Hiding is an entirely reasonable reaction for a low-level mimic whose epic-level master was just eaten by a shark. The stool does not appear in any following comic, until (possibly) the current one.
    Note that the stool is slightly taller in 1225 than the dwarf-stool is. This makes sense if the stool is a mimic; Serini most likely coaxed it out of hiding off-panel and asked it to be “dwarf-sized.”
    We have no direct evidence for this, but I think the inconsistencies in position are too great to be attributed solely to artist error. There should then be three regular plus one extra-page appearances for Stool Mimic 1 by my count.

    Any other pieces of misplaced furniture? If not, then I’m betting on Stool Mimic 2 being either Serini’s cloak, the chest below the dartboard, the dartboard, or just in the cupboard. We’ll probably get further hints as this scene progresses and we get better views of the area.
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    For 1269 Stuck in a Meeting:
    1 Page, 13 Panels, 268 Words

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    Words
    Total Words
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    Belkar Bitterleaf
    +1
    1268, 19 Sep, 2022
    +42
    34,777
    4
    Durkon Thundershield
    +1
    1268, 19 Sep, 2022
    +18
    23,137
    6
    Haley Starshine
    +1
    1268, 19 Sep, 2022
    +17
    40,795
    2
    Lien
    +1
    1268, 19 Sep, 2022
    +6
    4,347
    20
    Minrah Shaleshoe
    +1
    1268, 19 Sep, 2022
    +0
    3,509
    25
    O-Chul
    +1
    1268, 19 Sep, 2022
    +16
    10,302
    10
    Roy Greenhilt
    +1
    1268, 19 Sep, 2022
    +49
    66,035
    1
    Serini Toormuck
    +1
    1268, 19 Sep, 2022
    +119
    2,834
    28 (29)
    Stool Mimic
    +1
    First Appearance
    +1
    1
    1050
    Vaarsuvius
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    1268, 19 Sep, 2022
    +0
    28,770
    5

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    Roy breaks 66,000 words. That's a lot.

    Serini moves up ahead of Qarr (2,815), putting her behind Sabine (3,203)

    Quote Originally Posted by ByzantiumBhuka View Post
    Mimic proposal time!
    We have no direct evidence for this, but I think the inconsistencies in position are too great to be attributed solely to artist error. There should then be three regular plus one extra-page appearances for Stool Mimic 1 by my count.
    I'm going to disagree here, and say that the Stool Mimics make their first appearance here. The furniture in the comics you identify looks like a nightstand more than a stool, and the coloration is a little different. The nightstand is more of a warm tan, while the stools are a darker, more gray color. I think the mimics have been off-camera or behind the table until this comic. As always, I could be wrong.
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