Beware of Bites!

[Valmark]

Day ends in like, 40 minutes.

Also I think I forgot to check a notification (as in opened the QT and closed it without reading by mistake) so if anybody addressed me directly without me answering it's probably better if you repeat yourselves.

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When does the Day end? By my math it would be 11:45 AM GMT on the 4th, but I don't necessarily trust my math skills.

I also realize I told you no when it's just the same time in a different zone. So yeah, I'm an idiot xD sorry.

[AvatarVecna]

Thanks. Should really have checked the recruitment thread before asking.

Would be helpful if the recruitment OP was in the game OP too.

[Valmark]

Would be helpful if the recruitment OP was in the game OP too.

Done! Contained in a spoiler at the top of the game OP.

[AvatarVecna]

Private talks in the night are shifting my opinions - both the ones I'm having, and the ones I'm not. *looks pointedly at rogue_alchemist*

If somebody on the Athos wagon could switch to join me, that'd be great.

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Done! Contained in a spoiler at the top of the game OP.

Thanks.

[Snowblaze]

Sure. rogue_alchemist.

[AvatarVecna]

Sure. rogue_alchemist.

Awesome, now we've got three wagons at 4 votes. This is much more interesting. :3

[Bunny of Faith]

Awesome, now we've got three wagons at 4 votes. This is much more interesting. :3

Though unless somebody votes in the next few minutes then JWL dies regardless, since they hit it first?

--Edit--

They could even save themselves at this point by voting for rogue_alchemist.

[AvatarVecna]

Though unless somebody votes in the next few minutes then JWL dies regardless, since they hit it first?

I think that's true, barring some vote manipulation power. Testing that's actually part of it.

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Changing my vote won't impact the lynch unless I change it to Lord Athos or JoyWonderLove, and I'm confused by the movement around their wagons, so I'm not inclined to change it currently.

I don't fully trust rogue_alchemist, but I have reason to suspend my suspicion, at least on a temporary basis.
I'm still not sure what to make of the JWL vs Lord Athos set, but it looks like some info is there for harvesting after the Day ends. So I'll set the tie again via a vote on Lord Athos.

Also, I find it odd that AV left my vote on rogue_alchemist out of her post. AvatarVecna: was that a typo, intentional, or just tangential to the purpose of your post?

Here's part of my motivation to change, btw.

[Valmark]

4 minutes.

[AvatarVecna]

Lord Athos

[Lord Athos]

Wait, don't shoot the Mime!

I already claimed to you privately, remember?

[Valmark]

Day one END.

Tallying votes...

[AvatarVecna]

Wait, don't shoot the Mime!

...of all the times to show up and contribute, and you're still not even voting? *headdesk*

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Claiming a bare role name privately isn't exactly the most ringing endorsement. But also if you're gonna claim publicly, maybe do so more than, idk, seconds before EoD?

[Valmark]

Spoiler: Vote count

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Vote count:

Apogee 1 (Elenna)
JoyWonderLove 4 (bc56, CaoimhinTheCape, Logan1996, Apogee1)
Lord Athos 5 (Book Wombat, JoyWonderLove, gac3, JeenLeen, AvatarVecna)
Book Wombat 1 (Lord Athos)
Elenna 1 (rogue_alchemist)
Logan1996 2 (Bunny of Faith, Unavenger)
rogue_alchemist 2 (Aventine, Snowblaze)

The day started with people accusing each other left and right, making up cases as two people slowly gathered consent on their own death. After a bit of a lull some perceived, the nearing of the sentence drew closer and people made a last desperate attempt- armed by good intentions, or filthy manipulators? Nothing's so black and white.
Besides Lord Athos, they were.

Lord Athos died. They were the Mime.

Spoiler: Role

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You're the Mime, a Town Human role. You spent your days entertaining people, until they started... Dying. But worry not! With your tricks of the trade, you'll protect your audience from the monsters! Or not, depends on you.
Each night, pick two players. You copy the first player active power and use it on the second, provided they have and are using one.

Apparently people in Russia don't like mimes.

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BEGIN NIGHT 1

It'll end in 48 hours. Have fun~!

[Apogee1]

Hmm well he was the mime...

[rogue_alchemist]

@Lord Athos
@JoyWonderLove
@rogue_alchemist

Who are your top three scum leans and town leans at this point in time?

I was asleep when you posted this (are all you guys European? or at least non-American, cause you post when I am sleep and are rarely on until late in the afternoon for me) I am not going to give my analysis in public now, but we can QT about it if you still want to know. I am glad I didn't suddenly get lynched out of nowhere, though Bunny of Faith made it sound like I was closer than I was by Valmark's count.

[Bunny of Faith]

I was asleep when you posted this (are all you guys European? or at least non-American, cause you post when I am sleep and are rarely on until late in the afternoon for me) I am not going to give my analysis in public now, but we can QT about it if you still want to know. I am glad I didn't suddenly get lynched out of nowhere, though Bunny of Faith made it sound like I was closer than I was by Valmark's count.

I was going off of Snowblaze's tally here:

Why do you think rogue_alchemist is town? And if you’re not sure about the JWL wagon, why are you still on it?

Helpful vote count:
Lord Athos 5 ( Snowblaze, Book Wombat, JoyWonderLove, gac3, JeenLeen)
Logan1996 2 (Bunny of Faith, Unavenger)
Apogee1 1 (Elenna)
JoyWonderLove 5 (bc56, CaoimhinTheCape, Logan1996, AvatarVecna, Apogee1)
Rogue_alchemist 2 (JeenLeen, Aventine)
Book Wombat 1 (Lord Athos)
Elenna 1 (rogue_alchemist)

(Note: JWL reached five votes first so will be lynched if nothing changes... assuming Valmark is using those tie rules.)

Where if Vecna and Snowblaze swapped to you, it would have looked like
Lord Athos 4 (, Book Wombat, JoyWonderLove, gac3, JeenLeen)
JoyWonderLove 4 (bc56, CaoimhinTheCape, Logan1996, , Apogee1)
Rogue_alchemist 4 (JeenLeen, Aventine, Snowblaze, AvatarVecna)

with JWL able to switch to you and save themselves. However, as you may be able to see in that Snowblaze recorded JeenLeen twice, thus my confusion. Sorry!

[AvatarVecna]

I was asleep when you posted this (are all you guys European? or at least non-American, cause you post when I am sleep and are rarely on until late in the afternoon for me) I am not going to give my analysis in public now, but we can QT about it if you still want to know. I am glad I didn't suddenly get lynched out of nowhere, though Bunny of Faith made it sound like I was closer than I was by Valmark's count.

It took me a second to realize, but Snowblaze's vote-count that had the wagons at 5-5-2 was counting JeenLeen for both Lord Athos and you. When Snowblaze and I switched, it wasn't actually 4-4-4, it was 4-4-3.

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I was asleep when you posted this (are all you guys European? or at least non-American, cause you post when I am sleep and are rarely on until late in the afternoon for me) I am not going to give my analysis in public now, but we can QT about it if you still want to know. I am glad I didn't suddenly get lynched out of nowhere, though Bunny of Faith made it sound like I was closer than I was by Valmark's count.

I'd prefer it was in public, but it can wait 'til morning I suppose. Private's fine too.

[Snowblaze]

Welp, so sorry about messing up the vote count. And I suppose I can consider my death in Crazy Idea avenged, but given we mislynched… not so great.

[Valmark]

Since I had forgotten to do it immediately, for Lord Athos and future reference: a Death Chat has been set-up. Those who die receive the link in their private QTs.

[AvatarVecna]

Since I had forgotten to do it immediately, for Lord Athos and future reference: a Death Chat has been set-up. Those who die receive the link in their private QTs.

Does being dead inside count?

[Valmark]

Nope, the body needs to be cold and to have stopped all autonomous movement (twitching too counts as such)

[rogue_alchemist]

It took me a second to realize, but Snowblaze's vote-count that had the wagons at 5-5-2 was counting JeenLeen for both Lord Athos and you. When Snowblaze and I switched, it wasn't actually 4-4-4, it was 4-4-3.

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I'd prefer it was in public, but it can wait 'til morning I suppose. Private's fine too.

My point is, I didn't want to post in night phase. I am fine to do it publicly tomorrow as well.

[JeenLeen]

I took this morning off work to go to church, and I'm catching up on work now. Hope to read through stuff and run some analysis.

AV, what led you to vote for Lord Athos last-minute?
(Sorry if you already said this, but I didn't see it in just skimming the posts thus far.)

[AvatarVecna]

I took this morning off work to go to church, and I'm catching up on work now. Hope to read through stuff and run some analysis.

AV, what led you to vote for Lord Athos last-minute?
(Sorry if you already said this, but I didn't see it in just skimming the posts thus far.)

Got a vote-manipulation claim, and was testing it. Results were...intriguing.

(Also in my defense, I thought at worst I was risking a neutral mime. Turns out it's a town mime! Oops. >.>)

[JeenLeen]

Can anyone give me a good and thorough (and true ) description of how the Unique Views are handled in QuickTopic?
I've got a couple leads on a possible wolf or possible mason/lover, but whether they are hogwash or not depends on that little nuance.

...which, honestly, I feel bad even pursuing, since I hate the idea of that analysis being strong in the metagame here. As that might lead to folk using convoluted methods like the transcript-QTs that AV did last game. But, basically, I know the Unique Views are unreliable sometimes. But what can make the same person show up 2+ times as a unique view?
One lead has described the multiple views reasonably (though it could be a lie) by saying they use a VPN. I think I've caused it in prior games from viewing QTs both on my work and home computer.

[bc56]

Well, I guess I was right in feeling uneasy about the Athos wagon.

...of all the times to show up and contribute, and you're still not even voting? *headdesk*

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Claiming a bare role name privately isn't exactly the most ringing endorsement. But also if you're gonna claim publicly, maybe do so more than, idk, seconds before EoD?

To be fair, Mime sounds like a neutral or monster role. I would not have expected him to be town. Mimes are creepy.

[rogue_alchemist]

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If there is a star next to the people who posts names then they are signed in when they posted and the unique views won't go up, however if they aren't signed in and access the QT from a different IP, then unique views could be artificially inflated. Shouldn't be off by more than 1 or 2 though (most people have a phone, work, and home computer that could all access the page, though if they are signed in on more than one device it won't increment unique views).

[Aventine]

Can anyone give me a good and thorough (and true ) description of how the Unique Views are handled in QuickTopic?
I've got a couple leads on a possible wolf or possible mason/lover, but whether they are hogwash or not depends on that little nuance.

...which, honestly, I feel bad even pursuing, since I hate the idea of that analysis being strong in the metagame here. As that might lead to folk using convoluted methods like the transcript-QTs that AV did last game. But, basically, I know the Unique Views are unreliable sometimes. But what can make the same person show up 2+ times as a unique view?
One lead has described the multiple views reasonably (though it could be a lie) by saying they use a VPN. I think I've caused it in prior games from viewing QTs both on my work and home computer.

Do remember to account for Valmark having access to QTs as narrator.

[AvatarVecna]

Mine definitely have views from both PC and phone but beyond that I'm not sure.