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2007-11-30, 06:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
Maybe, but I'm guessing no since we've seen no spellcasting from him. He could be hiding an "evil" power source like a Warlock, but with the Japanese theme, Shugenja or Wujen seems more likely, and those aren't inherently evil.
Is Kubota a thaumaturgist and Qarr is Kubota's Planar Cohort?
Is Qarr just a regular ol' cohort?
And how does an imp charm all those monsters? Imps can only cast suggestion 1/day and cannot gain class levels. Maybe Qarr is not an imp but some home-brewed fiend.
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2007-11-30, 07:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
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2007-12-01, 07:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
I know they're not the same continuity, but can we consider the Dragon Magazine comics here? Looking over some the scans I have, I see that
SpoilerV gets the Maximize Spell feat and Durkon has a Dex penalty.Last edited by OmegaDonut; 2007-12-01 at 01:59 PM.
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2007-12-01, 09:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
That would make a lot of sense, as Zz'dtri's was 's opposite & e's an Invoker. As for why simply said wizard, well, that's what Ears is introduced as. Also, probably isn't that anal.What is this Japan you speak of? From what we've seen, Azure City uses the standard classes & just changes the flavour a little.According to this, They may well be in the same continuity. Therefore, I don't see why not. However, it would be best if you put them in spoilers.
Last edited by Amon Star; 2007-12-02 at 08:26 AM. Reason: Added spoiler tag.
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2007-12-01, 11:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-12-01, 02:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
According to this, They may well be in the same continuity. Therefore, I don't see why not. However, it would be best if you put them in spoilers.Last edited by OmegaDonut; 2007-12-01 at 02:00 PM.
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2007-12-01, 06:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
I second the idea of including the Dragon strips as canon (though maybe they should be in spoiler tags?).
SpoilerIn addition to Durkon's dex penalty and V's Maximize Spell feat, we also know that V has ranks in Decipher Script and that Belkar's strength is less than 18 (but possibly, depending on interpretation, greater than or equal to 15).
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2007-12-01, 08:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
Meh. The title of the tread has [spoiler] in it already. If we agree to iclude Dragon magazine stuff, we should just include it.
Here is a numbering of all character appearances in OOTS
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2007-12-02, 02:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
From OOTOPCs, p. 52:
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Next you'll tell me that cleaning your kitchen improved your Decipher Script ranking.
Hey, it might! You haven't seen some of the things growing in my kitchen, I wouldn't put language skills past them.
We may learn two things from this.
1) Yes, V was being sarcastic, and though Haley agreed immediately, it was also sarcastic. So I suggest we discuss putting in Decipher Script for Haley as well. It can be read either way.
2) Haley has a kitchen.
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2007-12-02, 06:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-12-02, 06:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-12-02, 06:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-12-02, 08:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
You make a good point about Ninjas. There is a chance that Ninja school is just a rogue school, with maybe a prestige class or two attached to it. However, as shown here, the waitress & trainee Ninja says that her dodging ability comes from her training. Now, Rogue doesn't give bonuses to AC, but Ninja does.
What does everyone else think?Done.I agree. Every competent Rogue knows to carry everything, INCLUDING the Kitchen Sink!
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2007-12-02, 08:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
I assumed that the Ninjas had levels in the class of the same name, and I'm assuming that at least a few of the Samarais who were mentioned had lvels in that class due to Elan assuming that Miko had Samarai levels due to that also being her social rank. Admittedly, no other OA classes have appeared in the comic, so there is a possibility that all Samarais have ranks in other classes.
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2007-12-02, 01:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
Ninja definitely exist as a class. If they were just rogues who liked to sneak around and totally flip out and kill people, then Monkey wouldn't have to have specifically included ninja in the creation, since rogues were (presumably) already included. And the great abundance of ninja we've seen, including many insignificant mooks, suggests that it's a base class, not a PrC.
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2007-12-02, 02:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
Well, I just ran through all the strips with Therkla, and I can't find anything that suggests she has anything from the Ninja class. No Ghost Step, etc. I can see some small suggestion in 506.1.2 that she has Hide in Plain Sight, but that's not a Ninja class ability.
Further, we don't see her attacking the troll in 506. She flanks, bt doesn't deal damage. A rogue would get Sneak Attack in this situation, but a Ninja would not get Sudden Strike. Elan deals the death blow, so there's no conclusion to be drawn.
BTW, the Hide in Plain Sight thing... you must have Cover or Concealment to Hide. The moment you step out, you are visible and you do not get a Hide check. There is no facing in 3.0 and 3.5 (even though the Giant portrays facing, it is not in the game rules), so there is no Spot check necessary to see her when she is standing there like that: she is automatically seen. Hinjo must see her, unless she has Hide in Plain Sight; however, this has been an ability for all classes from the start of the comic. Comic 3 is all about Spot and Hide, and the "Ninja" there don't have Cover or Concealment either. So I don't think it's appropriate to draw a conclusion that Therkla has HiPS. This may simply be a limitation of the Giant in terms of how much stuff he can clutter the scene with. The chosen medium is a little inadequate to portray this ability.
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2007-12-03, 11:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
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2007-12-03, 12:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
Even taking 10, you still need concealment or cover to hide behind. Standing in the open does not allow a check without HiPS.
The Ninja class does not allow for Taking 10 from a class ability. Rogues can choose that as a Special Ability through Skill Mastery at level 10, but I highly doubt Belkar and co. are facing that many L10 rogues in strip 003.
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2007-12-03, 01:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
Well, I was quoting that from memory, but I was not talking about the Ninja base class in the Oriental Adventurer's book. As I recall, there was a roguish prestige class in 3.0 that had a ninja-related name, and did give this as its earliest ability. Hence the joke in comic #3, where there are many Ninja but none of them fail their hide check, because they're taking ten.
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2007-12-04, 03:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
Do we know enough about Cloister to have a stab at defining it now?
The way I see it, Cloister is an Epic Level Abjuration Spell, probably requiring ranks in Knowledge(Arcana), that blocks all non-epic forms of magical divination or communication between the inside and outside of the spell boundry. Only an epic level divination spell, or an epic artifact like the celestial scrying pool, can pierce it.
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2007-12-04, 04:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
Xykon placed a circlet on his head just before using that ability. Another character in fact points that out.
"Cloister" could merely be the command word to activate the magic item, not a spell. It could also be a spell, with the headgear as a Focus. We simply can't draw any conclusions.
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2007-12-04, 05:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
I don't know if anyone else has thought of this, but is there a possibility that Durkon is using the 4th Level substitution which is mentioned on page 28 of http://www.crystalkeep.com/d20/rules...asses-Base.pdf ? I thought I'd ask due to how it would explain his Warhammer use (I know we've never seen any evidence that he has ranks in Knowledge (Dungeoneer) and there's no evidence of him having a d10 HD, but I thought I'd mention it in case it could answer any questions about his domains, and because we know Belkar is using Halfling Barbarian substitution levels from the comic with the Green Hag who used Baleful Polymorph on V).
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2007-12-04, 09:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
Where in that comic is there anything indicating that Belkar might have substitution levels?
EDIT: Oh, I see now. He says "Halfling rage jumping attack" when he leaps. I'm pretty sure that's unrelated to any substitution levels; he's a halfling, he's raging, he's jumping -- ergo, halfling rage jumping attack. We haven't seen him actually using any abilities of any of those substitutions. I don't think there is anything in the comics as of yet that is proof of any OOTS member having substitution levels.
[Edit 2: Whoa! Sorry about the triple-post, not sure what happened there.]Last edited by Chrismith; 2007-12-04 at 12:36 PM.
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2007-12-04, 11:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
Regarding "ninja" characters: should we assume they actually have levels in the Ninja class from Complete Adventurer/Oriental Adventures? Or are they just rogue/fighters who call themselves Ninjas (much as Miko was a monk/paladin who called herself a Samurai)?
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2007-12-04, 11:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-12-04, 01:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
Actually, "Hafling Rage" is the name of an ability which Halfling Barbarians can use instead of the normal rage (the Halfling is trated as a medium creature if it would be beneficial, but they lose the +1AC onus from their small size). Also, he only had 1 Barbarian level at the time, so he wouldn't have learnt the Intimidating Presence ability at that point. What does Somatic Weaponry do?
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2007-12-04, 03:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-12-04, 05:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
I don't understand how #434 shows Xykon to be level 20+?
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2007-12-04, 05:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
I don't know, either... 442 implies a level of 20+ (I'm what, seven levels higher than you? Eight? More?), but is not definitive, since there's nothing that says Xykon knows what level Roy is. There is, however, definitive evidence that Xykon is at least 20 in Start of Darkness.
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2007-12-05, 02:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery III (some [spoiler]s)
Thanks for explaining about Somantic Weaponry. (I assumed that Durkon had got the War Domain until I read about the racial variant, and I was talking about how he used it as a weapon rather then thinking about how he used spells when weilding one).
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