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    cunctation
    (kŭngk-tā′shən)

    noun Archaic.
    lateness; delay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinyadan View Post
    What I find interesting is that Spanish has a few words for " pregnant", one being embarazada, another one encinta, both of which would mean more or less the same thing, "in rope/belt" (or "with no rope/belt", depending on the meaning of the prefix.)
    I'm guessing the 'pregnant' one is related to the meaning of embarrass/embarazada which roughly means 'to put one in a difficult situation.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinyadan View Post
    What I find interesting is that Spanish has a few words for " pregnant", one being embarazada, another one encinta, both of which would mean more or less the same thing, "in rope/belt" (or "with no rope/belt", depending on the meaning of the prefix.)
    Which then makes me think of an old term: "confinement" - a traditional practice following childbirth, which typically begins immediately after the birth, with the seclusion of mother & child for one month.
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    dilatory
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    adj. Causing or intended to cause delay.
    adj. Characterized by or given to delay or slowness: synonym: slow.

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    More words, and hopefully none that gets censored.

    nepenthes (n): a drug described in The Odyssey as banishing grief or trouble from a person's mind; a drug or potion that brings welcome forgetfulness

    abecedarian (adj): arranged alphabetically; rudimentary

    zhug (n): Yemeni hot sauce of hot peppers, garlic, and coriander

    orography (n): branch of physical geeography that deals with mountains

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    I've just seen some archaic words misused yet again, so I'd like to clarify. "Here", "there", and "where" have other forms where the "-ere" ending is changed to include a preposition. Using those forms with a preposition is redundant. Saying "go back from whence you came" is like saying "go back from where you came from". It's too many "froms". It's just "go back whence you came".

    Here = this place
    There = that place
    Where = which place

    Hither = to this place
    Thither = to that place
    Whither = to which place

    Hence = away from this place
    Thence = away from that place
    Whence = away from which place

    Also, while I'm at it, the -st verb ending is for 2nd person singular. 3rd person singular uses -th instead of the modern -s.

    I go, I do
    We go, we do
    Thou goest, thou dost
    You go, you do
    He/she/it/one goeth, he/she/it/one doth
    They go, they do

    My/mine and thy/thine as possessives follow the same rule as a/an: I have mine eyes on my book. Thou hast thine own book so readest thy book as I read mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuc Xac View Post
    Hence = away from this place
    Of course hence is mostly a conjunction nowadays. Hence I'm going hence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xuc Xac View Post
    I've just seen some archaic words misused yet again, so I'd like to clarify. "Here", "there", and "where" have other forms where the "-ere" ending is changed to include a preposition. Using those forms with a preposition is redundant. Saying "go back from whence you came" is like saying "go back from where you came from". It's too many "froms". It's just "go back whence you came".
    Yeah, the problem with this is language lives. Irregardless may be redundant, but if the majority uses it that way that's how it ends up being. Regardless of how it "should" be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblizz View Post
    Yeah, the problem with this is language lives. Irregardless may be redundant, but if the majority uses it that way that's how it ends up being. Regardless of how it "should" be.
    That doesn't apply when they're trying to sound old-timey and using archaic language. Outdated, archaic language doesn't change and evolve, by definition—it was used the way it was used and that's it. Historical usage is no longer a living language.
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    That's right, it's no longer living language. It's dead language. And when you go looking for old words that are no longer in use and begin intentionally using them in the modern era it becomes undead language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuc Xac View Post
    That doesn't apply when they're trying to sound old-timey and using archaic language. Outdated, archaic language doesn't change and evolve, by definition—it was used the way it was used and that's it. Historical usage is no longer a living language.
    Outdated archaic language can very well change, the action of using in itself makes it living, if indeed trying to apply it wholesale is what is being done. Not to mention "trying to sound old-timey" is a new use case that really has little to do with actual archaic language. It's just scenery. A children's school play uses cardboard trees in the background to tell us that the story is happening in a forest, we don't need real actual trees to do that.

    And outdated archaic language itself was never really "set" either. You can't talk about how it was used because it was used differently by everyone. When rules were invented for various things, and that's quite recent, it was a concern for a tiny minority. The average person in the time of thence would have less idea what you are talking about than we do.

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    That's right, it's no longer living language. It's dead language. And when you go looking for old words that are no longer in use and begin intentionally using them in the modern era it becomes undead language.
    See now there's a concept I'm liking. That's really exactly what happens when you cosplay archaic speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyrender View Post
    That's right, it's no longer living language. It's dead language. And when you go looking for old words that are no longer in use and begin intentionally using them in the modern era it becomes undead language.
    And now I've got this image of latin-talking necromancers. Thank you.
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    And now I've got this ipage of latin-talking necromancers. Thank you.
    Not just Latin. Wrong Latin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    Not just Latin. Wrong Latin!
    Obviously they learned magic at Hogwarts.
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    Rockphed said it well.
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    More likely at some place that makes Hogwarts look good.

    I know, I know. The mind boggles, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    More likely at some place that makes Hogwarts look good.

    I know, I know. The mind boggles, etc.
    Hogwarts is good at lots of things. Teaching bad Latin as a basis for spells is one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    More likely at some place that makes Hogwarts look good.

    I know, I know. The mind boggles, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    WarHammer 40k's Imperium of Man?
    Does not actually speak Latin. Bad or any other kind. Nor do they speak English.

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    Extirpate : to remove or destroy totally; do away with; exterminate.

    "The new king decided to extirpate the Catholics from the land."

    @v YES! That's exactly where I read it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblizz View Post
    Does not actually speak Latin. Bad or any other kind. Nor do they speak English.
    Astra Militarum is definitely Latin, and bad Latin at that. All of their terminology is in bad Latin.

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    Extirpate : to remove or destroy totally; do away with; exterminate.

    "The new king decided to extirpate the Catholics from the land."
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    the Vector Legion [is the IFCC's new pawns], mark my words. Way too much unfinished business there and they already know about the Gates.
    I'll take that bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    Astra Militarum is definitely Latin, and bad Latin at that. All of their terminology is in bad Latin.
    Yes but that's that's just how the GW authors render it to give us an feeling for what it is.

    The Imperium of Man, if we pretend that it is actually real doesn't speak English and their archaic language is not bad Latin.

    They speak Something, and use an archaic Precursor to Something language for terminology when they want to be fancy. We just get it rendered into something equivalent that works for us.

    Funnily enough having bad Precursor language works, no one really knows or speaks the ancient Precursor language in the Imperium Man. Like so much else they are just aping what came before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblizz View Post
    Yes but that's that's just how the GW authors render it to give us an feeling for what it is.

    The Imperium of Man, if we pretend that it is actually real doesn't speak English and their archaic language is not bad Latin.

    They speak Something, and use an archaic Precursor to Something language for terminology when they want to be fancy. We just get it rendered into something equivalent that works for us.

    Funnily enough having bad Precursor language works, no one really knows or speaks the ancient Precursor language in the Imperium Man. Like so much else they are just aping what came before.
    In-universe, English stands for Low Gothic and Latin for High Gothic but that doesn't work because High Gothic is supposed to be the common language of mankind during the 31st millenium. But that doesn't work because the characters from that time period transpoanted into the 41st millenium don't have issues communicating with anybody and the works set in the 31st millenium still uses both. Result: it's obvious they're just speaking English and bad Latin.
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    the Vector Legion [is the IFCC's new pawns], mark my words. Way too much unfinished business there and they already know about the Gates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    In-universe, English stands for Low Gothic and Latin for High Gothic but that doesn't work because High Gothic is supposed to be the common language of mankind during the 31st millenium. But that doesn't work because the characters from that time period transpoanted into the 41st millenium don't have issues communicating with anybody and the works set in the 31st millenium still uses both. Result: it's obvious they're just speaking English and bad Latin.
    But High Gothic isn't meant to be literally like bad Latin, as much as someone speaking High Gothic in WH40K just feels like someone speaking Latin IRL.

    If you don't speak it, it sounds impressive, perhaps even a little terrifying. If you know a little, it sounds pretentious. If you know it fluently, you're probably too important to call pretentious, or some sort of demon.
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    Connubially (adv) - in the manner of a husband and wife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Ahh, the ol' scunthorpe problem! I wish how many people are just learning of that phrase?
    Just ran into a case of that -- er, well, the related issue of textual find-and-replace issues. Someone did a find/replace on a document to switch 'open' to 'closed' and we ended up with people from Cclosedhagen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie the Duck View Post
    Just ran into a case of that -- er, well, the related issue of textual find-and-replace issues. Someone did a find/replace on a document to switch 'open' to 'closed' and we ended up with people from Cclosedhagen.
    In RPG nerd circles this is known as a 'DaWizard' problem, from when TSR decided they were going to change their official style guide and replace references to 'mages' with 'wizards'. This resulted in a very similar lazy implementation and caused longswords to deal 1d8 dawizard..
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyckspoon View Post
    In RPG nerd circles this is known as a 'DaWizard' problem, from when TSR decided they were going to change their official style guide and replace references to 'mages' with 'wizards'. This resulted in a very similar lazy implementation and caused longswords to deal 1d8 dawizard..
    When I do find/replace I prefer to include characters around what I am actually changing so I know I am not getting parts of other words. I am not sure that such was possible back in the 80s and 90s, but I like to use leading or trailing spaces or punctuation marks. Also, while it was probably a pain in the 80s and 90s, there are ways to have text editors show all the places that were replaced so you can check them.
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    Frankly, I just avoid the find and replace in the first place. In part because going through the document manually tends to result in me finding plenty of other things I need to fix.

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    Persiflage: light frivolous conversation , style, or treatment ; friendly teasing

    "When I said the dame wanted to borrow a book, that was just persiflage."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    Frankly, I just avoid the find and replace in the first place. In part because going through the document manually tends to result in me finding plenty of other things I need to fix.
    In my experience, if you don't need to use find/replace, then you aren't making major edits to your work.
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