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    Redound is intransitive. It has no object: something can redound, but you can't redound something.

    Rebound is transitive, so it can have an object, meaning you can do it to something.

    "The ball redounded off the wall." vs "He rebounded the ball off the wall."
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    Here's one I should have known but didn't: hagiographic.

    Hagiography is the biography of a saint, so hagiographic mean to put them is the finest light. "The author of a hagiographic biography of John Brown described his actions as 'desirable & defensible', rather than criminal."
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    Sagacity/Sagacious is a new word to me, and I've been hearing it more often lately, which is kinda strange. People must have a predilection for using 5 dollar words when nickel-words suffice.

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    And yet you use a five dollar word when complaining about five dollar words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildstag View Post
    Sagacity/Sagacious is a new word to me, and I've been hearing it more often lately, which is kinda strange. People must have a predilection for using 5 dollar words when nickel-words suffice.
    I love sagacious! I used to call one of my older coworkers "oh sagacious one". After a couple times he looked up sagacious and gave me grief because it means "wise looking" instead of "wise"
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    I love salacious! I used to call one of my older coworkers "oh sagacious one". After a couple times he looked up salacious and gave me grief because it means "wise looking" instead of "wise"
    I find great hilarity in these typos/autocorrects.
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    Sagacious does mean wise though doesn't it? Seems to be generally defined as Having or showing good or wise judgement.

    I first heard that was from Jade Empire with Sagacious Zu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacewolf View Post
    Sagacious does mean wise though doesn't it? Seems to be generally defined as Having or showing good or wise judgement.
    Yep. Unlike "salacious", which, if used to refer to a coworker, would be quite salacious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacewolf View Post
    Sagacious does mean wise though doesn't it? Seems to be generally defined as Having or showing good or wise judgement.

    I first heard that was from Jade Empire with Sagacious Zu.
    It does mean wise, more precisely it means "of keen judgement, discerning, perspicacious".

    The first translation in French of the Lord of the Rings translated Samwise to Samsagace (sagace being French for sagacious) which is such a great fit to the character that it being changed to Samsaget is one of my main gripes with the (overall better) second translation.
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    I discovered a word at almost the same time I discovered a reason to use it.

    Sybaritic: Fond of sensuous luxury or pleasure; self-indulgent.

    "Whoever sent me an ad for a $1700 lace teddy must think I live a sybaritic lifestyle".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    I find great hilarity in these typos/autocorrects.
    I have now edited that post 3 times! I blame autocorrect.

    And I don't know what online dictionary he found sagacious defined as "having the appearance of wisdom" in. I just remember him giving me grief and jokingly claiming it was a crack at his age.
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    This thread singlehandedly doubled the "words I'll probably never use but sure as hell wish to." Bless it.

    Anyways,

    hyssop (n): a small busy aromatic plant, part of the mint family

    isinglass (n): a kind of gelatin obtained from fish to make jellies

    brogue (n): a type of outdoor shoe with ornamental patterns

    panegyric (n): a public speech/text praising something

    sinecure (n): an office or position that requirees little work and usually provides an income

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    brogue (n): a type of outdoor shoe with ornamental patterns
    Oh! Fun fact, a brogue is also a strong accent, typically around the British Isles. For example, you could see an attractive person immediately get more attractive once they open their mouth and you hear a fine Irish brogue.
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    isinglass (n): a kind of gelatin obtained from fish to make jellies
    Isinglass is also the reason why people might ask if a wine is vegan. Why would fermented grape juice not be vegan? Because most winemakers add isinglass to make all the floating fine bits of pulp settle to the bottom of the wine so it looks nice and clear before bottling. Wine isn't vegan if it had fish guts poured in it to clarify it.
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    Isinglass is also the reason why people might ask if a wine is vegan. Why would fermented grape juice not be vegan? Because most winemakers add isinglass to make all the floating fine bits of pulp settle to the bottom of the wine so it looks nice and clear before bottling. Wine isn't vegan if it had fish guts poured in it to clarify it.
    Having done a little amateur wine making, I would have guessed the main concern would be bees flying into the mashed grapes and accidentally getting mixed in. We had a devil of a time convincing them that wasn't where they wanted to be, and we were doing everything by hand.

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    Isinglass is also the reason why people might ask if a wine is vegan. Why would fermented grape juice not be vegan? Because most winemakers add isinglass to make all the floating fine bits of pulp settle to the bottom of the wine so it looks nice and clear before bottling. Wine isn't vegan if it had fish guts poured in it to clarify it.
    Isinglass is not typically used for wine making and traditional wine production does not use a fining agent at all. They use racking, a gravity assisted process that removes the lees from the wine. Beer production uses racking as well. Fining agents are really only used to avoid the long times racking takes to clarify. Isinglass is more found in beer as well, and a big reason the discussion is now in the public consciousness as Guinness uses Isinglass for their clarification and it got quite the big stir in the UK by animal rights people there. Home wine makers don't really use Isinglass either. It's expensive. for one, you need a lot of it for two and it's only good for clarifying white wines for three. You can't, or shouldn't, use Isinglass for red wines. It's also not great as a clarifying agent across the board. It's traditional for beers, and some very particular wines, but there are cheaper and better products on the market now like Bentonite and Casein. Irish moss is also used, though it doesn't work on yeast, only proteins. Different fining agents work better or worse on different things.

    Vegans should still check even if Isinglass isn't the concern. Albumen and Casein are both animal products still and far more likely to be used.
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    What's the difference between redound and rebound?
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    Redound is generally negative, rebound positive.
    Quote Originally Posted by Xuc Xac View Post
    Redound is intransitive. It has no object: something can redound, but you can't redound something.

    Rebound is transitive, so it can have an object, meaning you can do it to something.

    "The ball redounded off the wall." vs "He rebounded the ball off the wall."
    I definitely hear rebound used as an intransitive verb (as well as transitive).
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    Sybaritic: Fond of sensuous luxury or pleasure; self-indulgent.

    "Whoever sent me an ad for a $1700 lace teddy must think I live a sybaritic lifestyle".
    Huh, the things I should know. See, I knew sybarite, but never thought of the adjective form.

    I encounter this quite often. Like I learned vacillating *well* before vacillate, squalid *well* before squalor, etc.
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    A new one I learned was debridement, to cut away dead/dying tissue to try and prevent gangrene or other infections. Often done with maggots, since they don't eat healthy tissue (too hard to digest).

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    eidetic (adj): relating to mental images having unusual vividness or detail. Thus, someone like Oracle would have eidetic memory.

    kintsugi (n): a Japanese art of repairing pottery by mending it with lacquer that's been mixed with powdered gold

    limoncello (n): a lemon-flavored Italian liqueur

    penury (n): extreme poverty

    muqarnas (n): a form of ornamented vaulting in Islamic architecture

    I've been trying to keep a word diary lately, and this thread seemed like the perfect place to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by understatement View Post
    eidetic (adj): relating to mental images having unusual vividness or detail. Thus, someone like Oracle would have eidetic memory.
    "Eidetic memory" is usually used to refer to perfect or near-perfect recall, usually synonymous with "photographic" memory. This isn't strictly accurate, since eidetic memory technically has an entirely different meaning altogether (IIRC it involves very short time periods and nearly everyone has eidetic memory to some degree under that usage), but if you see it in a novel, it's probably going to be the perfect recall thing.

    Also limoncello is quite tasty. I also rarely drink, so take that for what it's worth.
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    "legerity", which is a word I'd never seen before but was able to suss out the meaning since it looks like the root for legerdemain; it's essentially just a dated synonym for agility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    A new one I learned was debridement, to cut away dead/dying tissue to try and prevent gangrene or other infections. Often done with maggots, since they don't eat healthy tissue (too hard to digest).
    If I'd had to guess, I would have assumed that it was a fancy way of saying divorce. "I had a bride, and now I do not; I have undergone debridement".

    Anyway, trochee - a stressed syllable followed by an unstressed syllable. In other words, the reverse of an iamb (the thing you need five of to a line in order to have iambic pentameter).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SZbNAhL View Post
    If I'd had to guess, I would have assumed that it was a fancy way of saying divorce. "I had a bride, and now I do not; I have undergone debridement".
    I've seen some brides; your definition & the medical one might still be confused in the same sentence.

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    It's pronounced de-bri-de-ment, which leads me to believe it was originally French given the similarity to debris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    It's pronounced de-bri-de-ment, which leads me to believe it was originally French given the similarity to debris.
    Close but no cigar. "Débridement" is the act of "débrider" i.e. unbind, set free. It comes from "bride" meaning bound or that thing we use to direct horses. "Débris" comes from "bris" which means broken piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    It's pronounced de-bri-de-ment, which leads me to believe it was originally French given the similarity to debris.
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    Fun French Fact! "Debris" is based on the French term "de bris" which means "the cheese". The spelling in the original French later changed to "brie". The cheese was so good that the people decided to rename their region after it.

    Mosr French words can trace their etymology back to cheese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Fun French Fact! "Debris" is based on the French term "de bris" which means "the cheese". The spelling in the original French later changed to "brie". The cheese was so good that the people decided to rename their region after it.

    Mosr French words can trace their etymology back to cheese.
    For example, "anglais" (english) is a corruption of "sang-de-lais" with lais being an older form of "lait" (milk). "sang-de-lais" translates to "milk-blooded" and the name comes from the habit of the Normands and Bretons to use the blood of English fishermen in their cheese making. A practice that has been on the decline starting in the 20's and which last recorded occurence happened after the première of Star Wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    For example, "anglais" (english) is a corruption of "sang-de-lais" with lais being an older form of "lait" (milk). "sang-de-lais" translates to "milk-blooded" and the name comes from the habit of the Normands and Bretons to use the blood of English fishermen in their cheese making. A practice that has been on the decline starting in the 20's and which last recorded occurence happened after the première of Star Wars.
    This, of course, explains why French cheeses are among the best in the world.
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    This, of course, explains why French cheeses are among the best in the world.
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