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2020-06-26, 07:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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anyway to ditch an early class level?
my dm employs multiclass penalty so if i want to use savage species rituals to change my race i need to ditch a class level i got at level 2 because of favored race.
only two methods i know are
retraining which requires a dm created quest which means not usable in the middle of a campaign
reducing my level back to 1 which i might be able to pull off but its a huge headache.
i know about the feat in ua that gives a favored class, but my dm is raw or die and unfortunately that feat is under a section called house rules. why wotc... why would you call that feat a house rule....
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2020-06-26, 08:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: anyway to ditch an early class level?
There is always the time-tested method of giving the PC a heroically suicidal death, holding off the monsters while the party escapes, rushing bravely into the series of very fatal traps to spring them for his friends, or whatever.
Then having his cousin, friend, brother from another mother, or whatever (who has the characteristics you wish this character has) arrive just after the death scene, tragically mourn the PCs's premature death, and vow to take over his role in the party's important mission.Spoiler: Avatar & Iron Chef AwardsAwesome Dragonfire Bard Avatar by Oneris. A detailed version is here.
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2020-06-26, 10:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: anyway to ditch an early class level?
Character rebuilds in phb2 allow characters to re-select their class levels, but also entirely require DM approval, and tend to involve some kind of short quest.
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2020-06-27, 06:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: anyway to ditch an early class level?
Isn't there some psionic power that does this? No, apparently not. Just looked up Psychic Reformation - only works for skills, feats and powers.
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2020-07-02, 08:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: anyway to ditch an early class level?
i already said that on the fp
i know. feats and skills are so easy to retrain, but class levels are unremovable.
theres gotta be a way.
does this work?
starting level:7, want to get rid of class level obtained at level 2
1. intentionally fail negative levels until i am level 1
2. gain a level to 2
3. cast restoration and get back to 7.Last edited by newguydude1; 2020-07-02 at 08:02 AM.
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2020-07-02, 08:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: anyway to ditch an early class level?
Pretty sure there isn't. I have never seen something so mentioned, not even in some of the TO posts where that sort of thing would be leveraged hard if it did. Retraining is basically the only way, I'm 99.99% sure.
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2020-07-02, 10:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: anyway to ditch an early class level?
The "Tainted" classes in Dragon 302 have explicit rules allowing nonlinear removal in the case of level loss.
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2020-07-02, 05:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: anyway to ditch an early class level?
Get hit by a creature that can level drain, I don't remember it saying anywhere that it always takes your last earned level, have it take the level you wanted to lose. You are one level behind, and can advance from there as normal. ??
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2020-07-02, 05:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: anyway to ditch an early class level?
Spoiler: Collectible nice thingsMy incarnate/crusader. A self-healing crowd-control melee build (ECL 8).
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Doctor Despair's and my all-natural approach to necromancy.
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2020-07-02, 05:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-07-03, 02:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-07-04, 11:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: anyway to ditch an early class level?
Would "Additional Favored Class" (Unearthed Arcana p. 100) be any help here?
Otherwise... going Necropolitan (Libris Mortis p. 115) involves losing a level.Handbooks:
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2020-07-04, 01:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: anyway to ditch an early class level?
no cause by raw that feat is a house rule. wotc is so dumb. my dm is raw or die.
your most recent level. not the level i got at 2nd level. i go a dread necro dip to carry me until level 6. from level 6 i want to ditch the dreadnecro level i got at level 2.Last edited by newguydude1; 2020-07-04 at 01:20 PM.
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2020-07-04, 01:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: anyway to ditch an early class level?
use up a wish
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2020-07-04, 03:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Dec 2015
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Re: anyway to ditch an early class level?
Store your XP level in a thought bottle (Complete Arcane), level-drain yourself down to level 1, fail all your saves, then restore from
backupthe thought bottle. It restores your XP total, not the levels you've gained, so you can re-level however you like.⚣ Tanuki in the Playground. ⚣
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2020-07-04, 03:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-07-04, 05:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jul 2007
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Re: anyway to ditch an early class level?
If your DM is pushing RAW, then ask him if it would be within the power of a Wish spell to change the level.
Would be very expensive though.My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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2020-07-06, 10:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: anyway to ditch an early class level?
Nobly sacrifice your character...and bring in his better designed cousin...
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