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2020-07-03, 12:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Heist media in which the main plot happens after the heist itself?
Pretty much what it says in the title; anyone got any recommendations for a heist media, either a novel or a series or a film, in which the main conflict is set after the heist itself is done? Not stories where it's twenty years later and they have to come back together again for a new heist, or The Usual Suspects-style flashbacks telling the actual plot of the heist, but rather where the heist is done and dusted, but now the struggles really begin when they have to reap the reward / not get arrested. I was specifically thinking regarding the struggle being evading the authorities, getting to safety, the effects of the heist or the theft, or even just the difficulty of selling the mcguffin that is known to basically anyone and the entire world is on the hunt for. Bonus points if the team is already working well together, and the interparty conflict stems from actual character problems, not just strangers butting heads.
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2020-07-03, 12:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Heist media in which the main plot happens after the heist itself?
Reservoir Dogs.
The movie takes place flashing forward and back. There are scenes showing how a few key members joined the team and the opening is supposed to be a planning session in a coffee shop, but its mostly locker room talk. Most of the film though revolves around the gang members arriving at their safe house after a heist that was messier than it was planned to be and trying to figure out if they've been betrayed. The one thing you never see is the heist itself.Last edited by Hand_of_Vecna; 2020-07-03 at 12:29 PM.
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2020-07-03, 01:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-07-03, 01:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Heist media in which the main plot happens after the heist itself?
Tarantino likes this a bit, as it happens several times within Pulp Fiction as well. Though it's debatable if they'd really be considered heists.
Butch has effectively stolen a lot of money from Wallace and his story mostly revolves around him getting away and dealing with the outcome of that.
Brett and his companions also attempted to steal something from Wallace. Their story is cut very short. But it then goes on to follow Vincent and Jules as they deal with trying to get the goods back to Wallace.
The Town starts with a heist, that gets over relatively quickly and we get mostly a story of Ben Affleck figuring out what he's doing with his life. Of course it also ends with another heist so I'm not entirely sure if that is what you want.
Really pushing what you're asking for. But the first season of Boardwalk Empire starts with the young secondary protagonist pulling a massive heist against the main protagonists potential business partner the legendary Arnold Rothstein. The main plot of the season basically all spirals out from that.
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2020-07-03, 01:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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A fair bit of "Things to do in Denver When You're Dead" takes place after the - extremely grimdark - plan goes down.
The BBC 2-part dramatisation of The Great Train Robbery - the end of the first part, and the whole of the second -part are set after the robbery.
You'll likely find that most of these sorts of shows, films, etc, are going to deal with how it goes wrong, how they heisters get caught. That's got the best classical narrative form as a tragedy - the flawed hero's inevitable fall.
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2020-07-03, 02:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Arguably 'Mad Max: Fury Road' fits this as the vast majority of the movie is the bad guys in pursuit of the heisters ( Max and Furiosa). It's just that what was stolen in this case was slightly unusual
'Hotel Artemis' gets the heist out of the way early and then deals with the robbers trying to survive in the place they've picked to lay low, though most of the problems they face are due to the other people at the Hotel and not their crime
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And the Ur example I can think of is 'The Getaway' which seems to fit best with the main characters spending the movie on the run from each other and the authorities
There are two versions of this the 1972 film with Steve McQueen and the 1994 remake with Kim Basinger and Alex Baldwin (but watch the original)
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2020-07-03, 03:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Heist media in which the main plot happens after the heist itself?
Pretty much the whole Olsen Gang series. While the heist itself is always shown in detail it pretty much always works as planned and the true struggle starts afterwards: get away with the money or whatever was stolen, hide from the angry bankers/mobsters and their henchman etc. They almost inevitably fail in the end and there is a common theme that the movies start with Olsen getting released from jail with a new brilliant plan and end with him going back to jail.
edit: in a way, Hudson Hawk also starts off with a heist, but the plot is not exactly about the fallout of this. One could also argue that Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Arc starts with a heist, but it is a bit of a strech.Last edited by Radar; 2020-07-03 at 03:57 PM.
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2020-07-03, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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In the videogame department, both Red dead redemption 2 and to a lesser extent gta 5 could be considered this. There's a lot of heisting in the middle bits of those games, but a lot of it is focussed on the reckoning that must come for the lives the characters live.
The original red dead redemption could be considered this as well, though the heist in question takes place in rdr2(which is a prequel).Jasnah avatar by Zea Mays
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2020-07-04, 07:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Heist media in which the main plot happens after the heist itself?
In Bruge takes place after an assassination with two gangsters going into hiding, in Bruge.
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2020-07-04, 07:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Baby Driver features two heists, and then goes on into the aftermath. It's also an Edgar Wright movie, so it's cinematically brilliant.
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2020-07-04, 08:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Although it's from the perspective of an outsider, The Maltese Falcon is all about the infighting among a gang after their original off-screen theft of the Falcon. Maybe that theft doesn't count as a heist
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2020-07-04, 01:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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You might be interested in Thunderbolt Fantasy Season 2. It's more wuxia than heist, and doesn't necessarily fall under the usual heist movie tropes, but season two at least follows two extremely veteran thieves dealing with the aftermath of their exploits.
It's a stretch, but I'm throwing it out there because Thunderbolt Fantasy is just a great show all around and deserves a bit of love once you get past the aesthetics.
Season 1 may also be of interest because... there's no way to allude to it without spoiling, other than saying that the mid-season twist blends together wuxia, adventuring party, and heist tropes together amazingly.
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2020-07-04, 11:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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The second book of the Mistborn trilogy by Brandon Sanderson fits this pretty well, though the heist itself (which takes place in the first book) is rather atypical.
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2020-07-05, 09:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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A Fish Called Wanda is good heist comedy that's set after the heist takes place, featuring John Cleese and Michael Palin.
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2020-07-05, 11:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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The movie "The Thomas Crown Affair" (Both versions).
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2020-07-08, 08:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ocean's 12, while it does have its own heist in it, is largely about the aftermath of the heist of the first movie, and outrunning the guy they robbed and his convoluted revenge scheme.
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2020-07-09, 01:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-07-12, 04:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Tangled? The crown is stolen in the first ten minutes of the movie. And girl is stolen in the first five.
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The Italian Job has a heist at the beginning. It also has a heist later on, but pretty much everything is fallout from the first heist.
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2020-07-13, 01:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Snatch.
There's a heist in the opening scene, which only has relevance in that the entire movie is about the effects of the heist, on a large number of groups, almost none of which were even involved in the heist to begin with but are all hit by the aftermath. Really well-written, IMO, quite clever.Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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The heist itself takes around 20 minutes. The rest is... complicated chain of events related to getting away with the loot.Call me Laco or Ladislav (if you need to be formal). Avatar comes from the talented linklele.
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2020-07-13, 01:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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While a good chunk of Avengers' Endgame's plot centers around its heist, unlike most heist movies the third act and climax happen well after it has concluded.
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2020-07-19, 07:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Heist media in which the main plot happens after the heist itself?
If I'm recalling it correctly, The Lies of Locke Lamora may be a decent fit. The first third of the book or so is the main character and his gang planning and executing a con in a fantasy city inspired by Venice, and the rest of the book is dealing with fallout and other complications.