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    Default Re: Good Feats for Clerics other than Divinve Metamagic?

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    If you're a warrior cleric, Power Attack is pretty valuable (although useless at level 1).

    Divine Spell Power is an oft-overlooked way for a high-Charisma cleric to increase caster level.

    Metamagic feats can be good too; I reccomend Smiting Spell at level 3, since the only other good one usable at this level is Extend Spell, and it'd be fairly useless at this level.
    Can you even take power attack at level one?

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    Default Re: Good Feats for Clerics other than Divinve Metamagic?

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    Can you even take power attack at level one?
    Yep, just need Strength greater than or equal to 13. It's just useless until you have BAB, and not that spectacular until you have a lot of it.

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    Default Re: Low-level Cleric Advice Thread

    Complete Champion has the Sanctified One, one of the types is Kord
    It has a coupleof cool things, most are 1/day things but can be taken multiple times but one of them isnt and the capstone is a choice of 3 24hr buffs
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    Because clerics are already so good, I think that they've been careful not to offer too many great prestige classes for them. Radiant Servant (CDiv) is out. Stormlord (also CDiv) could potentially be reshaped from Talos to Kord.

    Sacred Exorcist has fairly easy requirements, is accessible after level 7, and while the powers aren't overwhelming, you're losing pretty much nothing in the trade.

    Most others, you're either giving up combat ability or spellcasting, which is gonna be the fabulous one-two of your character.
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    Because clerics are already so good, I think that they've been careful not to offer too many great prestige classes for them. Radiant Servant (CDiv) is out. Stormlord (also CDiv) could potentially be reshaped from Talos to Kord.

    Sacred Exorcist has fairly easy requirements, is accessible after level 7, and while the powers aren't overwhelming, you're losing pretty much nothing in the trade.

    Most others, you're either giving up combat ability or spellcasting, which is gonna be the fabulous one-two of your character.
    Yeah, I'm not really too into the flavor of Sacred Exorcist. Is Stormlord that PRC where you don't lose any caster levels? I think that was one of those fun ones. I will look into this ordained champion(?) and sanctified one. Any other good ones? Any more feats?
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    I recommend ordained champion from complete champion and I'm fairly certain Kord would endorse it as well. In 5 levels you only gain 3 casting levels but have full BAB, good will and fort saves, you can channel spells through your weapon, smite just about anyone and get some other nifty beating oriented abilities. You can also swap out domain powers for fighter feats if they aren't doing as much as you'd like.

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    Wow...I need to buy complete Champion, apparently.

    Also, BoED has a few good things, I know a lot of people hate it (and I think most of the spells in it are crap), but some of the exalted feats are pretty neat. A lot of them are more flavor-oriented, though.
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    skywalker, what have you decided on so far? I know what you had initially, and made some suggestions, but I could offer more if you pick a direction you'd like to go in. If you want to go more martially, Ordained Champion with the feat Divine Might seems like a good direction. Even if you do go that way, consider Divine Spell Power. Its good for increasing your caster level for buffs, which is a good part of what clerics do. To use it reliably, you'd have to invest a little in +cha items, which synergizes well with Divine Might. The caster level bump could make the difference between CL7 Greater Magic Weapon (+1) and CL8 Greater Magic Weapon (+2) or any similar such buff.

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    skywalker, what have you decided on so far? I know what you had initially, and made some suggestions, but I could offer more if you pick a direction you'd like to go in. If you want to go more martially, Ordained Champion with the feat Divine Might seems like a good direction. Even if you do go that way, consider Divine Spell Power. Its good for increasing your caster level for buffs, which is a good part of what clerics do. To use it reliably, you'd have to invest a little in +cha items, which synergizes well with Divine Might. The caster level bump could make the difference between CL7 Greater Magic Weapon (+1) and CL8 Greater Magic Weapon (+2) or any similar such buff.

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    Well, the cleric is more martially oriented, so that's the direction I'm leaning, but I also want to take this opportunity to explore spellcasting as much as possible(since I don't get the opportunity often). I'm thinking about divine might, domain spontaneity, touch of healing sounds good although I've never seen the feat, we have a lot of encounters and people get hit alot, so that'll probably be this level's feat.

    I'm trying not to lose caster levels and I've always heard that going straight cleric can be just as good a choice as PRC'ing. My next feat would probably be divine spell power, and then divine might at 9, I have to see Ordained Champion before I go crashing headlong into it, so I suppose that's that.

    I was just thinking maybe somebody out there who hadn't spoken yet had some good advice.
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    Skywalker, funnily enough I'm ALSO playing a NG cleric of Kord with the Strength and Luck domains. Great minds think alike, eh?

    For prestige class, I love the concept of the Warpriest (C Divine). It's essentially an uber-army chaplain, who can still kick tail in combat. Something like the Space Marine Chaplains from Warhammer 40K if you know what I'm talking about. They're only half-casters, so power shouldn't be a problem.
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