Sermil and the Banter of Randomness: Random Banter #228

[DataNinja]

Ah, you prefer base 13, I take it!

Well, of course one would. How else does the answer make sense?

[Peelee]

Well, of course one would. How else does the answer make sense?

Fun fact, all of my jokes are in base 13 unless stated otherwise.

[Sermil]

Fun fact, all of my jokes are in base 13 unless stated otherwise.

There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

[Lacco]

There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

And another possible metric for "two kinds of people":
Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.

[Fyraltari]

There are three kinds of people: those who can count and those who cannot.

[Anonymouswizard]

There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

You're forgetting those who mistake it for base 3

In all honestly, there are only two types of people in the world. Those who think the world is split into two types of people, and those who don't.

[Cazero]

Y'all can start digging, 'cause I'm the one with loaded guns here.

[Aotrs Commander]

So, Spongebob Squarepants the anime is now a real (if entirely unofficial) thing now.

With an actual Japanese sub (supposedly there's dub coming later in true fashion.)

(And also not really work-safe, considering it is, like, a shonen anime, but link.)



Huh.

[moonfly7]

Hey Umm, where would be the proper place to post a thread/request for suggestions and help with a book? Would this go under Media discussions as its talking about a book even though it isn't in existence yet, or in friendly banter because it isn't a book yet?

[Anonymouswizard]

So, Spongebob Squarepants the anime is now a real (if entirely unofficial) thing now.

You know, I never really got the adoration they show gets.

Like, it's a good cartoon, and all the episodes I saw were solid, but nothing truly amazing. Maybe this is related to my dislike of eternal episodic stories and increasing like of serialised narratives? I don't know, being consistently good is an achievement in itself, but the characters have to remain relatively static and I dislike that.

And man I to learn to draw properly so I can realise my comic ideas. Guess there's no time like continuing plague to practice, maybe when I can draw multiple body types per gender without them looking stupid I'll try an actual comic page.

[Peelee]

Hey Umm, where would be the proper place to post a thread/request for suggestions and help with a book? Would this go under Media discussions as its talking about a book even though it isn't in existence yet, or in friendly banter because it isn't a book yet?

Either would be fine, I think.

[Aotrs Commander]

You know, I never really got the adoration they show gets.

Like, it's a good cartoon, and all the episodes I saw were solid, but nothing truly amazing. Maybe this is related to my dislike of eternal episodic stories and increasing like of serialised narratives? I don't know, being consistently good is an achievement in itself, but the characters have to remain relatively static and I dislike that.

I think it's okay Cleaning-The-Room-Telly (it's tolerable even on the umpteenth viewing); historically, before i started makiing use of Netflix, if there was really nothing else on, that's what I'd turn to.

Not something I would ever make particular time for myself, but I've seen a goodly majority of it, I suspect, via iteration.

[sktarq]

[vent] Humans are driving me slightly nuts. A whole group of people all want me to bill someone else for each other's problems. I could just politely blow them all off to deal with it themselves and come to me if they had a solution worked out that I need to be involved with...and held that position all of yesterday...but we are into day two now.
I had a really nice drive to just get out of town (while not getting within 2m of anyone new) for a few hours on Sunday. I was great. I was really chipper on Monday and the mood held well into Tuesday. But between this situation, my mother's cat passing away (got the cat just as I was moving out and I cat sit the little tiger a bunch but it hasn't really hit yet), my boss asking for impossible things, and just dealing with several friends moving out of town I am kinda pissed that my deep recharge didn't last even 72hrs. [/vent]

[Wizard_Lizard]

Ah, you prefer base 13, I take it!

Base 13? Nah I be operating off of either base 1, base 3, or if I'm feeling particularily eldritch, base 87.

[Peelee]

There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

There are ten kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary, those who don't, and those who tell this joke in ternary.

[Bartmanhomer]

There are ten kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary, those who don't, and those who tell this joke in ternary.

Just how do people learn to speak binary anyway? It's all zeroes and ones to me.

[Peelee]

Just how do people learn to speak binary anyway? It's all zeroes and ones to me.

Well, step one is to be a computer.

[Bartmanhomer]

Well, step one is to be a computer.

And is more to it to be a computer?

[Peelee]

And is more to it to be a computer?

Sure, but the rest of the instructions are in binary.

[Anonymouswizard]

Just how do people learn to speak binary anyway? It's all zeroes and ones to me.

Counting binary is easy, each column is a power of two (just like how each one in base 10 is a power of ten). While we really should move to base 8 to make conversion easier it's not hard to do (and to be fair, I can mentally calculate in base 12, it just takes effort).

Reading binary involves knowing how the information has been encoded. I could do it in Morse code (0 is a dot and 1 is a dash), unicode, or any number of systems including one I just made up on the spot. Most text to binary conversions are probably unicode, at least if they're meant to be readable. Also, people might be using online translators to speed up the process.

To roughly quote The SUE Files, putting your message in binary is like putting your message in webdings. The information is still there, and people can access it, but most will likely haved to translate it before they can read it. I wanted to put this in Webdings but it's not one of the fonts the forum provides. Fluffle blargle I want to snog my girlfriends darn you plague.

[Bartmanhomer]

Sure, but the rest of the instructions are in binary.

Very well then. Anyway, I'm watching Hulu Streaming service.

[SZbNAhL]

Binary encoding (among humans, anyway) serves the same purpose as any other simple cypher: rg zooldh blf gl dirgv gsrmth gszg [mlinzo] kvlkov xzm'g ivzw zxxrwvmgzoob yfg xzm vzhrob ivzw ru gsvb drhs gl. Gsrh rh uzriob fhvufo rm nvwrz drgslfg hklrovi gzth, hfxs zh Uzxvyllp li Gdrggvi. Oh, and it can also make you feel all smug and clever, if you're into that sort of shallow elitism. The above was written in atbash, by the way. There's probably an online decrypter if you don't feel like translating it by hand.

[enderlord99]

I prefer ROT13 over Atbash for that purpose.

[Cazero]

While we really should move to base 8 to make conversion easier it's not hard to do

That would be very cool. But I doubt this will ever happen.
Picture the pushback against metric that the US have. Imagine the entire world doing that against the new octal-metric we now need.
And if anything, we should pick base 16. It's a power of 2 of digits of power 2. More elegant.

[Aotrs Commander]

That would be very cool. But I doubt this will ever happen.
Picture the pushback against metric that the US have. Imagine the entire world doing that against the new octal-metric we now need.

Wouldn't happen, for reasons far beyond inconveniance.

The casualties caused by the simple fact all previous engineering sources would be in base 10 would be enormous. Imagine the problems that have been caused by older sources being in imperial when metric is used - and they always tell you what units they're using (and there's a reason the maths/science teachers always said "always state your unit."). Now imagine that, except "10" doesn't meant "ten" anymore, it means "eight." And unless you happen to spot a "8" or a "9", there's no indication which base the document you're looking at is you're using.

And remember that places like Rolls Royce still phone up their retired engineers for help and have to look for old documentation.

Getting that wrong doesn't mean you get late for the doctor's because the appointment said "10:00" and didn't go at eight o'clock, or you paid the wrong amount of money for something; it means planes fall out of the sky, trains crash, building collapse and boats sink, because on top of the USUAL problems of the managers wanting to advance their careers and not wanting to sign off the safeties or do the proper testing (and yes, THIS HAPPENS - a large part of the last couple of years of my Dad's job at RR was telling his frackwit manager to naff off because he wasn't signing something off that wasn't safe and a couple of my mates are in the same sort of situations), on top of that, you have the errors creeping in because of the change in system.

(And that's just engineering, on top of that you have medical issues, financial problems and a whole host of other issues.)

The question is not "how hard would it be?" it is "how many people are you prepared to die for it to happen?"

[Cazero]

-snip-
The question is not "how hard would it be?" it is "how many people are you prepared to die for it to happen?"

Oh, no, that's not an issue.
I mean, it is an issue, but not an obstacle. You can attest for yourself that we already give charge to incompetent hacks who don't care about doing stupid mistakes like ignoring safeties or using the wrong unit, even if it kills people.

[Mith]

If any of y'all are awake, there is a rover launch in the next few minutes

Live TV Link: https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive

Countdown: https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/?fbcl...8g_ZdLwpfMQh-Y

[Anonymouswizard]

Oh, no, that's not an issue.
I mean, it is an issue, but not an obstacle. You can attest for yourself that we already give charge to incompetent hacks who don't care about doing stupid mistakes like ignoring safeties or using the wrong unit, even if it kills people.

I still don't get the fact that some companies still use Imperial units for engineering (or worse US units). Mainly because SI units are so much simpler and you don't have to worry if there's sixteen ounces or two hundred and forty pennies in your pound.

[Peelee]

I still don't get the fact that some companies still use Imperial units for engineering (or worse US units). Mainly because SI units are so much simpler and you don't have to worry if there's sixteen ounces or two hundred and forty pennies in your pound.

Imperial and US Customary Units are great for engineering, is the thing.

[Fyraltari]

[citation needed]